BUG?: Why does tagging use so much RAM?

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fgh | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jan 26 2012 5:08 PM

Every time I add a few tags (few meaning 5-20 books), I have to restart Logos afterwards, because not only has it eaten up all my free RAM, it has also created a swap file approaching 2GB. If I have a few more new books, I also have to restart during the tagging. And usually I end up having to restart the whole computer as well. And this is with Logos newly opened, and Safari and Thunderbird either closed or just restarted.

In other words, a few minutes of tagging requires a minimum of 2 Logos [re]starts, and one each of Safari and Thunderbird. And to add insult to injury, the Logos restarts do, of course, take several minutes each, resulting in a five minute operation taking 30 minutes or more.

This is absurd! How can a small number of tags use up such an incredible amount of RAM?

(I don't know if this is an issue that was introduced some time last year, or if it's been there all the time, but doesn't become noticeable until you have enough resources, but I do know that I didn't have any problem in 2010, and that currently it seems to get worse and worse.)

 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 26 2012 5:31 PM

Do you think this is because of the number of resources you have or because of the number of resources you have tagged? I am new to tagging, so I am sure your situation is different than mine. I tagged about 30 resources last night at one time without problems. 

A 2 GB swap file? Gulp. Ick!

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 26 2012 5:43 PM

alabama24:
Do you think this is because of the number of resources you have or because of the number of resources you have tagged?

No idea.

alabama24:
A 2 GB swap file? Gulp. Ick!

My thoughts exactly. And that's with 1-3 restarts of the computer/day. Safari is awful and Logos is worse, but Logos' tagging beats everything. It eats RAM faster than I can eat sweets. 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 26 2012 5:47 PM

alabama24:
I am new to tagging, so I am sure your situation is different than mine. I tagged about 30 resources last night at one time without problems.

A year ago I tagged the whole Master Collection without problems like this.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 26 2012 6:00 PM

Curious how much RAM is installed ?

Edit: after tagging 16 resources using Logos 4.5a Beta 2, noticed Free memory went down 0.07 GB.  Adding some more tags noted Free memory decrease of 0.20 GB.  Adding a tag to 24 more resources reduced Free memory by 0.12 GB. 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 26 2012 10:16 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Curious how much RAM is installed ?

2GB. This computer was specifically bought to run Logos, and I was assured Logos would run just great on it, even with other programs open. Of course, as soon as I'd bought, the tune changed completely to 'you can't expect Logos to run well on that computer'. Funny how there can be one truth when you want the customer to buy, and another truth when you want to shrink from your responsibility for lousy performance...

In any way, why on earth should a few tags need (far) more RAM than indexing? (These days I always index with a restarted computer and nothing open, but if remember correctly, indexing with Logos open used to result in a swap file of about 2-300MB.)

And, like I said, it wasn't like this a year ago.

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Fr. Charles R. Matheny | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 26 2012 10:20 PM

Quote" Funny how there can be one truth when you want the customer to buy, and another truth when you want to shrink from your responsibility for lousy performance..." End Quote

Agreed and Amen.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 26 2012 11:02 PM

fgh:
And, like I said, it wasn't like this a year ago.

A year ago, rebuild index command completed much faster on a Mac => Logos 4.5 Beta 12 Library Indexing Speed Regression - Mac is Slow

Apologies: the 2011 Mac Mini models are easy to upgrade RAM with one twist to remove bottom cover for RAM access.  With current RAM prices, may want to consider upgrading to 8 GB.

Some other year ago observations: Mac and PC had separate releases.  Logos 4 Mac was missing much more in feature parity.  Personally Thankful for many improvements, including simultaneous Logos 4 releases on Mac and PC.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2012 6:24 AM

fgh:
This computer was specifically bought to run Logos, and I was assured Logos would run just great on it, even with other programs open.

The last thing I want is to argue with you, but I just wanted to point out that L4 Mac has far more capability that it did even 1 year ago. More capability will require more computing power—or at least more RAM. Personally, I never believe that any computer comes with enough RAM.

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