Sin has been described as "Missing the Mark" but

painfree
painfree Member Posts: 93
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Sin has been described as "Missing the Mark"  but some have taught that it does not mean simply that your aim was off, but that you were shooting in the opposite/wrong direction.

Is there Logos 4.5 support for the thought that Sin is missing the mark because you are shooting in the opposite direction and if so can you describe how you find that in Logos 4.5 ?

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  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    painfree,

    The way you phrased your question leaves this thread very susceptible to devolve into a theological argument. Perhaps a better question would be: How could I use Logos 4 to define sin and what does it mean to "miss the mark."

    First I would suggest a Bible Search for "sin, iniquity" plus any other synonyms for sin that you can think of. Export to a passage list and write down your observations about each verse.

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    Next I would suggest a word study on Sin

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    I would then take some time to read the lexical entries on sin, plus any entries in Bible Dictionaries you might have.

    What you will find is that since there are multiple words in the original languages translated as "sin" the sense of missing the mark that you aimed for is indeed one of the senses those words can communicate.

    For example, a non-moral example is from Judges 20:16 "16 Among all these were 700 chosen men who were left-handed; every one could sling a stone at a hair and not miss [literally "sin"].  (ESV)

    (Perhaps this goes to far astray from the forum guidelines but I suggest that sin has two sides 1) actively doing something wrong 2) failing to do something you ought to do (EDIT: regardless of motivation or aim)).

    Hope this helps

  • Ken McGuire
    Ken McGuire Member Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭

    The obvious answer is to do a Bible Word Study on "sin" or "ἁμαρτία".  This will give you lots of raw data for which to sift.

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  • Ward Walker
    Ward Walker Member Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭

    The obvious answer is to do a Bible Word Study on "sin" or "ἁμαρτία".  This will give you lots of raw data for which to sift.

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  • Pedro
    Pedro Member Posts: 155

     

    painfree said:

    Is there Logos 4.5 support for the thought that Sin is missing the mark because you are shooting in the opposite direction and if so can you describe how you find that in Logos 4.5 ?

    I agree that the best and most profitable exercise would be to perform a complete word study and use your BDAG and HALOT if you have them.

    In terms of other reference works, I searched my Logos library for "missing the mark" AND direction

    Found the following section in the Dictionary for Theological
    Interpretation of the Bible
    . (I underlined and bolded the pertinent words/section)

    The Essence of Sin

    Although universally acknowledged by the tradition,
    theological interpreters have developed no consensus about the nature and root
    of sin, and there are no ecumenical doctrines that define the essence of sin.
    In the late patristic period, divergent accounts of the origin or foundation of
    sin developed. The Eastern monastic tradition identified eight "evil thoughts"
    that ascended from temptations of the flesh to spiritual dangers such as sloth
    and pride (Cassian). In contrast, the Western pastoral tradition formulated the
    sequence from a foundational pride to the outworkings of sin in lust and
    gluttony (Gregory the Great). In the post-Reformation West, definitions of sin
    were seen as church-dividing issues (cf. Trent, Sessio V; The Formula of
    Concord, art. 1).

    The lack of consensus about the essence of sin reflects the
    diversity of scriptural terminology: hamartia (missing the mark), parabasis
    (transgression), adikia (unrighteousness), asebeia (impiety), anomia
    (lawlessness), ponēria (depravity), and epithymia (evil desire). Furthermore,
    the rich OT vocabulary of prostitution and other forms of idolatrous defilement
    adds distinctive color to biblical depictions of human sinfulness. Finally, the
    Scriptures offer divergent descriptions of the root or cause of sin: pride goes
    before the fall (Prov. 16:18); love of money is the root of all evil (1 Tim.
    6:10); the evil tongue is the source of iniquity (James 3:6).

    Two narrative moments in Scripture exemplify the difficulty
    of specifying the nature of sin. Genesis 3:1-7 depicts the original
    transgression of Adam and Eve. In a homily on this passage, the influential
    patristic interpreter John Chrysostom retells the story without settling on a
    single explanation for the fall. He moves from serpent, to Eve, to Adam, drawing
    in envy, negligence, ignorance, disobedience, and pride. The fall has no
    single, identifiable cause. The multiple directions of temptation are present
    in the threefold temptation of Jesus, which the patristic tradition linked to
    the triad of evil itemized in 1 John 2:16. An even greater plurality
    characterizes the Gospel accounts of Jesus' passion. An atmosphere of
    blindness, deception, complicity, fear, greed, collective madness, and menace
    characterizes the scene in Jerusalem, and the narrative resists efforts to
    resolve sin into a single form or cause.

    The diverse and allusive biblical witness to the reality of
    sin encourages a fundamentally negative definition. Sin is not an ontological
    category. It is not a function of embodiment or finitude. For Augustine, sin is
    disordered desire, not desire itself. Sin is perverse love. Nor can sin be
    reduced to a single, fundamental motive, such as pride. Instead, sin is a
    temporal category. Augustine uses the image of weight, describing human
    personality as dynamic and always moving either upward to God or downward
    toward corruption. This image captures a patristic consensus that sin is a
    direction of life away from God
    . For this reason, as Karl Barth has argued most
    forcefully, sin is most visible and evident in contrast to the righteousness
    and holiness of God, revealed in Jesus Christ. The idolatry described by Paul
    in Rom. 1 is revealed by the possibility of true worship.

    Although sin is a personal and not ontological reality, a
    function of will and not nature, the role of sin in the drama of salvation has
    definite features.

     

    Kevin J. Vanhoozer, Craig G. Bartholomew, Daniel J. Treier
    and N. T. Wright, Dictionary for Theological Interpretation of the Bible
    (London; Grand Rapids, MI.: SPCK; Baker Academic, 2005), 749.

     

     

     

  • David P. Moore
    David P. Moore Member Posts: 610 ✭✭

    painfree said:

    Sin has been described as "Missing the Mark"  but some have taught that it does not mean simply that your aim was off, but that you were shooting in the opposite/wrong direction.

    painfree,

    I found this in John MacArthur's "The Body Dynamic":


    "We not only fall short (hamartia), but we also go in the wrong direction (paraptoma). We try but miss and go our own way. "There is a way which seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death" (Prov. 14:12)."

    So it seems these are two separate definitions for two different Greek words, both of which are rendered as sin in English.