Help using Concordances with Logos

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Jarod Marshall | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jul 17 2012 9:05 PM

Hi, 

I have an assignments that requires me to use a concordance, but there is only one in the whole package I got from Logos. What am I missing? What's the equivalent of using a Concordance in the Logos environment, and what's the difference between a concordance and a lexicon? 

Thanks for anyone's input. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 17 2012 9:27 PM

Hi Jarod - Welcome to the forums!

Jarod Marshall:
what's the difference between a concordance and a lexicon? 

A concordance helps you to find words used in a resource (i.e. the Bible). A lexicon is a dictionary.

If you wanted to find out how many times the ESV uses the word "grace," you would use an ESV concordance. If you wanted to locate verses that use the english word "grace," you would likewise use a concordance. If you wanted to find out the definition of "grace," you would use a lexicon. When you are speaking about the Bible, you must keep in mind several things. First, when you find a word in several places in a translation, it may or may not be the same original language word in each case. Likewise, when you see a word in the Bible, its meaning in context may be very different than what you would find in websters, for example. In your case, a lexicon is likely a dictionary trying to explain the original language words in their biblical context.

Jarod Marshall:
What's the equivalent of using a Concordance in the Logos environment

It depends upon what you are looking for, but essentially you can do searches within the software to perform the same task as using a concordance. 

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James Chandler | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 18 2012 5:46 AM

I too had to use a concordance with one of my assignments.  I did not use logos I used an actual book concordance.  We were required to use the Strongest NIV concordance.  

I would say go that way.  It would be helpful to learn how to do that.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 18 2012 6:04 AM

James Chandler:
We were required to use the Strongest NIV concordance.

James Chandler:
It would be helpful to learn how to do that.

Jarod - If you are required to use a certain concordance, you should use that instead. Otherwise, I don't see much value in learning to use the print copy.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 18 2012 6:25 AM

I know people say concordances are 'so yesterday', what with high-speed searches of every combination you can possibly think of.

But I like the quiet 'follow-along' of a concordance, as you read the text. A glance now and then over to the results of the lookup tool to see if another passage you've not considered pops up.

I especially like the concept in the Libronix 'people' tool (though technically that's not a concordance). But you quickly see where the person shows up before and after.

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James Chandler | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 18 2012 6:38 AM

We were required to use it in our Bible Study course.  I found it quite helpful to understand about word studies and how different words were used.  I had never done that before.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 18 2012 10:15 PM

Jarod Marshall:
I have an assignments that requires me to use a concordance, but there is only one in the whole package I got from Logos. What am I missing? What's the equivalent of using a Concordance in the Logos environment, and what's the difference between a concordance and a lexicon? 

Welcome Big Smile

Logos 4 can search for word(s) in Bible(s).  A concordance groups phrases by word form, which can be done in Logos 4 by choosing to match word form.  In contrast, Logos 4 can also search for matching word forms so word variations can appear in a single list of results:

My Topical collection in Logos 4 includes a number of Bible Concordance type resources.

An analytical lexicon lists all occurrences of an original language word form.  The Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament could be included with several discussion lexicons that have more discussion about word usage and nuances.  Some lexicons are quite similar to a dictionary where many meanings are listed for a word; an example is BDAG that includes Greek word meanings for the New Testament plus other early Christian Literature (albeit listings are densely packed with a number of abbreviations).

Caution: English is not Greek; both are not Hebrew nor Aramaic.  Proper names tend to have a one to one correspondence between languages, but other words can have a range of meanings and nuances.

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Jarod Marshall | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 20 2012 8:58 AM

Thanks for your comment. It's really helpful, although your screen must be a lot bigger than mine. :) 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 20 2012 9:29 AM

Jarod Marshall:
although your screen must be a lot bigger than mine.

Believe he has a 27" iMac 

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