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Logos 4.0a Beta Testing Guidelines

Important Information

IMPORTANT: Logos 4.0a Beta 1 is beta software. It may corrupt your computer or delete your data. The Passage Guide, searching, or viewing books may stop working. We recommend installing Logos 4.0a Beta 1 only on a dedicated testing machine.

Logos 4.0a cannot be installed side-by-side with Logos 4.0; it will replace your existing installation. (However, since Logos 4 uses a per-user installation, you can create a new Windows user account on your computer and install Logos 4.0a under that account for testing.)

Logos 4.0a cannot be downgraded to Logos 4.0. You will need to uninstall, delete all Logos4 folders, then reinstall Logos 4.0 if you no longer wish to run Logos 4.0a.

Do not share resources or Data folders between 4.0 and 4.0a Beta 1; the format of data files and (some) resources in 4.0a Beta 1 has changed, making them unreadable by 4.0.

Some documents in Logos 4.0a Beta 1 have changed their internal formats since the release of 4.0; these documents will not be synced to your 4.0 installation. The new types of documents that will be added to 4.0a (e.g., verse lists) will also not be synced. However, existing document types that haven’t changed their internal formats will continue to sync between 4.0 and 4.0a Beta 1.

Tips

If you don’t have a separate computer for testing, consider creating a new Windows user account for beta testing. Install the beta under that account, keeping the stable version on your regular Windows account. You can still log in with the same logos.com email and password to share your licenses and settings between the two accounts. You should not share Resources folders, as 4.0a may download resources that can only be read by 4.0a, which would corrupt your 4.0 installation.

How to Join the Beta

Run the special beta installer here: http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/InstallerBeta/Logos4Setup.exe

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Frank Sauer

Installed no problem... Any particular areas we need to look into testing out - Release Notes or anything that will let us know what to look for?

John Fidel

Is there anyplace that explains the changes and updates from 4.0? I would like to know what the changes are before installing. Specifically, will this require a reindex of the the library?

Frank Sauer

John I can tell you that I did not need another indexing. I installed right after the posting and have been playing around to see if I see anything different until there are some Release Notes posted and have not come across anything really noticeable yet.

Damian McGrath

If you don’t have a separate computer for testing, consider creating a new Windows user account for beta testing. Install the beta under that account, keeping the stable version on your regular Windows account. You can still log in with the same logos.com email and password to share your licenses and settings between the two accounts. You should not share Resources folders, as 4.0a may download resources that can only be read by 4.0a, which would corrupt your 4.0 installation.

Bryan,

On Windows 7 (must update my sig), I created a new account with administrative privileges. I downloaded and installed L4a. It installed and immediately on sign in it stopped working.

I logged off that account and entered my regular account. I was just going to delete v4 and install the new Beta. I went to my computer and saw the install directory for 4s (c:\Logos4a), I enetered it, double clicked on the .exe and it started immediately. I now have 4a running on my computer under my original user account .

I'm not sure what's happened...

Damian McGrath

John I can tell you that I did not need another indexing. I installed right after the posting and have been playing around to see if I see anything different until there are some Release Notes posted and have not come across anything really noticeable yet.

Look in program settings - there's the ability to turn off visual cues and visual bookmarks (wear marks)

Damian McGrath

The "Cited By" tool....

Phil Gons (Logos)

Check out the new search results option: datasheet.

Damian McGrath

Check out the new search results option: datasheet.

I can't see that

Frank Sauer

Phil, I ran a couple search function, but do not see anything labeled datasheet. Where would one find this function?

Phil Gons (Logos)

I can't see that

Did you run a Bible search or morph search?

Phil Gons (Logos)

Phil, I ran a couple search function, but do not see anything labeled datasheet. Where would one find this function?

It's a display option under Bible search and morph search.

Damian McGrath

I can't see that

Did you run a Bible search or morph search?

A basic search...

I've found it now...

Damian McGrath

I can't see that

Did you run a Bible search or morph search?

A basic search...

I've found it now...

Bob Pritchett

The big new features are the "Datasheet" search analysis (presently only for Bible and Morph searches, but eventually for all searches), the new Cited By tool, and Explain the screen - F9. (Just hit F9 at any time to try it.)

Dewayne Davis

Check out the Interesting Words section of the Passage Guide. Cool new look.

Damian McGrath

Explain the screen

Very cool - more importantly, helpful for new users... I'm not sure about the orange flames....

Cited By tool

I still don't know why these tools are automatically set to follow when triggered by a right-click. It's so contrary to their function (plus can we please have a keyboard short cut to clear all links).

I like the ability to set different collections to be included... The collapsible state of the sections.

Compact view is excellent!

The ability to chose "By Book" - thank you!!!!

But, there don't seem to be many resources listed...

Todd Phillips

I still don't know why these tools are automatically set to follow when triggered by a right-click.

I agree. This really needs to be changed. I don't know how many times I've lost the data I looked up.

spitzerpl

Crashed twice while opening 4000 questions from tabbed library.

EDIT: Seems to crash every time I open any resource, either from a tab or drop down menu. Also crashed with TSK from PG.

spitzerpl

sniff sniff...didn't take your advised and saved over my 4.0. I have not been able to open any resources

EDIT: I was able to open 1000 Images

Todd Phillips

I turned off visual bookmarks, and the existing ones disappeared, however, as I use books, new ones continue to show up.

If I turn it back on the old ones reappear in addition to the new ones.

If I turn it off again they are all gone again, but the usage of a book still creates new ones.

This doesn't seem right.

Chris Elford

Logos 4.0a Beta Testing Guidelines

Important Information

If you don’t have a separate computer for testing, consider creating a new Windows user account for beta testing. Install the beta under that account, keeping the stable version on your regular Windows account. You can still log in with the same logos.com email and password to share your licenses and settings between the two accounts. You should not share Resources folders, as 4.0a may download resources that can only be read by 4.0a, which would corrupt your 4.0 installation.

Bryan,

How can I figure out how much disk space will be required? Will it duplicate all my 4.0 resources? I'm not sure I have enough disk space on my c: drive to handle a complete duplication, plus profile space. I realize it will depend on my license level, but is there a way to calculate it?

Thanks,

Chris

Is it OK if I upgrade to Beta on one PC but keep the other PC at 4.0 SR-7 (both PC's using the same Logos account to log in)?

spitzerpl

Just to updated on my woes, I can run just about anything and all then information is displayed, but I can't open any of the resources except the media resources. For instance I can open the text comparison, no problem, but I can't open the NKJV; L4 freezes. In the Passage guide if I click on the topic the topical shows up underneath, and the popup has the proper content, but if I click on the topic L4 just freezes. Any ideas? do I need to send logs and if so holding down CTRL while opening the program records it, right? Where is it then located? I miss my L4. I don't want to turn to L3 :-(

Damian McGrath

Just to updated on my woes, I can run just about anything and all then information is displayed, but I can't open any of the resources except the media resources. For instance I can open the text comparison, no problem, but I can't open the NKJV; L4 freezes. In the Passage guide if I click on the topic the topical shows up underneath, and the popup has the proper content, but if I click on the topic L4 just freezes. Any ideas? do I need to send logs and if so holding down CTRL while opening the program records it, right? Where is it then located? I miss my L4. I don't want to turn to L3 :-(

Are you not willing to try a reinstall?

I have to....... because the mutliple user thing royally stuffed my install.

What I also now know is that uninstalling deletes the index and resource files.... I'm in the midst of copying everything from my netbook....

Just think Philip - with a new Beta and so many woes, you'll hit 2000 in no time

Robert Pavich

Could we at least have the decency to not crow about all of the cool things that the new beta has while I lack the ability to log on!! [:(]

spitzerpl

Could we at least have the decency

Decency? Here? Surely you have us confused.

Damian McGrath

Could we at least have the decency to not crow about all of the cool things that the new beta has while I lack the ability to log on!!

Robert,

The Beta really sucks - it's awful - it crashed Philip's computer. You're not missing anything.... really!!!!!!

Kevin A. Purcell

Phil, I ran a couple search function, but do not see anything labeled datasheet. Where would one find this function?

It's a display option under Bible search and morph search.

Don't see it. I did a Bible search for predestined and for Jesus. Neither have it. I installed using the above link and when I go to Help About it says sr7. Should it say 4.0a? If so then why didn't I get the beta with the link above?

UPDATE: I deleted the intaller from my downloads folder and re-downloaded and re-ran it and now it says beta and I see the datasheet.

Can someone explain the benefit? What would I use this for? I have some guesses but I'd like to hear your uses.

BillS

Run the special beta installer here: http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/InstallerBeta/Logos4Setup.exe

I'm not sure where to post bugs, so I'll post here...

Install went fine, over the top of the latest SR for 4.0.

Beta appears to be working correctly, but it appears on my setup to have lost the ability to remember whether [Edit] SOME windows were minimized or not at last.

My default layout now includes a main window & 6 floating windows. The floating windows are all saved minimized. However, 4.0a prefers [edit] ONE not to be minimized at startup, in contrast to the last SR release, that remembered how I had set them. This is true whether it's the snapshot that loads at startup or whether I reload my saved layout. [Edit] The one that won't load minimized is The Bible Reader's Companion.

Thanks for all you folks do for us!

Bill

Fred Greco

Ok, let me ask a pretty basic question. Assume, for the sake of argument, that while I am aware of the disclaimer at the beginning of this thread, I fully intend to install Logos4aB1 on my main production machine. (I create entire system image backups weekly, so even on a meltdown, I am in good shape).

What is the best way to "upgrade" to the beta? Do I have to uninstall Logos 4.0? Can I install over the top? My main concern is:

downloading resources over again
Indexing everything over again from scratch.

Thanks in advance for the help!

Damian McGrath

What is the best way to "upgrade" to the beta? Do I have to uninstall Logos 4.0? Can I install over the top? My main concern is:

downloading resources over again

Indexing everything over again from scratch.

Thanks in advance for the help!

Just install over the top.

I've now done it on two machines.

You run the installer - it replaces what needs replacing.

Nothing is indexed.

Fred Greco

Thanks, Damian. That is what I thought; I just wanted to get confirmation.

Richard Lyall

I can't open any resources without a crash.

I can open the Home page without any problems.

I can open various Guides without problems.

Damian McGrath

I can't open any resources without a crash.

Richard, did you upgrade or did you try to install under a new user?