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Jeremy Writebol | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Sep 16 2012 3:51 PM

Apart from having resources when I am offline is there any significant reason FOR downloading my entire library onto my iPad. I have a 64gb new iPad so space isn't (shouldn't be) an issue. I have 1442 resources so I'm curious if this is a good move? Any thoughts?

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 16 2012 5:39 PM

Jeremy Writebol:

Apart from having resources when I am offline is there any significant reason FOR downloading my entire library onto my iPad. I have a 64gb new iPad so space isn't (shouldn't be) an issue. I have 1442 resources so I'm curious if this is a good move? Any thoughts?

I think it's a good move.

  • Local resources are faster (especially when I'm on a slow network, like at church or a restaurant). 
  • Bottom-of-the-page footnotes are only supported in local resources.
  • Local bibles can be searched when offline.

I have downloaded 696 of my 2031 resources, and I have no issues.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 16 2012 10:24 PM

I don't think it's a good idea for users who have a good Internet connection most of the time. The biggest reason is that a complete reinstall is sometimes the best fix for some glitches. It becomes a hard sell to tell someone to delete their app when they will lose 1000+ resources. Also, sometimes glitches occur when there is a newer version of a resource than has been downloaded. I have chosen to download books I am current reading plus a handful of others I might need in a pinch when I don't have a connection. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 16 2012 10:26 PM

Todd - I don't understand your advice... You say you think it's a good idea but you have only downloaded about 25% of your library. Wink EDIT: About a third. Math was not my best subject. Smile

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 1:19 AM

Hi Jeremy,

The I pad is a good but limited tool. I would guess that there will be many resources in your library that are rarely, if ever, consulted.

Downloading them, especially if you do have to re-install the app, will take time and band-width.

Unlike the other correspondents I have a severely limited subset of the library downloaded - four bibles translations, two of my favourite commentaries, a couple of dictionaries and a few books that I am ploughing through. Otherwise I rely on wifi to take the load. It works well for me.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 10:55 AM

alabama24:
Todd - I don't understand your advice... You say you think it's a good idea but you have only downloaded about 25% of your library. Wink EDIT: About a third. Math was not my best subject. Smile

I don't have enough space on my iPad.  Otherwise I might have downloaded everything (so I didn't have to pick and choose).  I have a 32GB iPad with many other apps and media.

I will amend my comments to say that I think you should download any book you think you will use (at least that's what I do).

Even at home on my 8 Mbps connection, I still find that local resources are faster than online ones.  (Is 8 Mbps considered slow or fast nowadays? )

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 11:00 AM

alabama24:
It becomes a hard sell to tell someone to delete their app when they will lose 1000+ resources.

Now that auto-redownloading is implemented, it's not a problem for me.  I would just let it redownload at night.

Of course if your internet bandwidth is a problem, then you might think twice, since autodownloading seems to be automatic.

But it's not like anything is really lost.   The resources are still available online.  And if they really needed them offline, then they didn't have any other option in the first place.

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Daniel R Bartholomew | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 11:41 AM

I have 1,421 resources downloaded on my 64 GB iPad.  Especially with the "download all" button, I don't see a downside in downloading all.

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Jeremy Writebol | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 4:51 PM

Thanks for the input on this. 

As a follow up I'm curious if anyone knows specifically which books will allow me to utilize the "define" option without it switching to the Apple default dictionary. (I'd like to always have access to the Hebrew/Greek definitions if I am online or not). 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 8:09 PM

You must have bibles with reverse interlinear's attached. The ESV, for example, has a RI if you own a base package. If you just purchase the bible as a separate resource, the RI isn't included. By the way, all word studies are performed online, regardless of translation. 

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Jeremy Writebol | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 18 2012 1:19 PM

I do have the RI's (I own Scholars Platinum as my base package). but if I don't have WiFi access it opens Apple's default dictionary for the Define option. I'd like to see the word behind the word, even if I am offline. Is that possible?

 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 18 2012 6:22 PM

Jeremy Writebol:
if I don't have WiFi access it opens Apple's default dictionary for the Define option. I'd like to see the word behind the word, even if I am offline. Is that possible?

No. The RI info isn't downloaded and the search is performed online.

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