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NYSERVANT | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Sep 29 2012 11:17 AM

  In my studies I was reading New Manners and Customs about the "binding and loosing" in Matthew 16:19 and the author mentioned a study done by "Lightfoot" and wanted to know if anyone knew this citation.  I'd like to read this study on the rabbinic literature

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"Lightfoot gives a large number of citations from rabbinical authorities to show the common usage in the Jewish schools of the words “bind” and “loose,” and also the meaning of these figurative terms. According to Lightfoot, bind means to forbid, while loose means to allow. Another commentator, Rosenmuller, says: “Binding and loosing—that is, prohibiting and permitting—were, in the Aramaic language that Jesus used, a customary expression to denote the highest authority. See Isaiah 22:22 Keys on Shoulder."

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Jack Hairston | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 29 2012 11:35 AM

Here is a link that might answer your question: http://www.truthortradition.com/iphone/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=183:binding-and-loosing&catid=36:faqs&Itemid=59 

A Commentary of the New Testament from the Talmud and Hebraica


Bishop John Lightfoot
Unfortunately, this commentary does not appear to be one that is offered by Logos.COM.


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NYSERVANT | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 29 2012 11:38 AM

Wow!  Wonderful and fast :)  Thanks brother!

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Gary O'Neal | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 29 2012 1:42 PM

How about this -- http://www.logos.com/product/5912/a-commentary-on-the-new-testament-from-the-talmud-and-hebraica

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 29 2012 4:21 PM

Gary O'Neal:

I was wondering if this was included in the whole works. Seems like the whole works aint the whole works.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 29 2012 8:02 PM

Evan Boardman:
Seems like the whole works aint the whole works.

That's because the Commentary was already published when they put the Works on CP or prepub.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 29 2012 11:39 PM

Jack Hairston:

One significant problem...or rather, issue...Yeishuu`a was NOT a Pharisaic Rabbi. Rather, He repudiated the Pharisaic Rabbis constantly and mercilessly.

QUOTE: Binding” and “loosing” were common terms used by the Rabbis in biblical times. When the rabbis “bound” something, they “forbade” it, and when they “loosed” something, they “permitted” it.

The above quote, being the first two sentences taken from the link above, may speak accurately about Pharisees and rabbis and their views and practices...but it overlooks the one major fact I mentioned earlier--YHWH/Yeishuu`a does not take cues from men.

There is a MONSTROUSLY MISTAKEN faux pas that is horribly common among Bible scholars...which is making the ASSUMPTION that what "the Jews" did during the Second Temple period is illustrative of what Yeishuu`a would have done as a contemporary of that time. How blind!!! How many times did He excoriate them for their lack of obedience to YHWH's word so they could keep the doctrines of men??

It is criminal that generation upon generation of Christian scholars have been so blind to the word of YHWH. Why, why, why would you ever look to men for your answer of what ':Elohhiym meant? To GOD, "binding" does not mean "to forbid"--ALMOST EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE is true. To "bind" is to place something upon someone or something...in other words, pretty much what common sense would dictate to both child and adult. "Bind" means to tie or attach to someone such that they cannot get away (from the thing to which they are attached). Num. 30:2

Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

YHWH here is not "forbidding" the keeping of the law...an absurd concept. The Hebrew parallelism with "seal" (just as with the Good Housekeeping seal) explicitly expresses His approval of the law and testimony. The bond that is here expressed between law and disciple is of exact fabric as that which exists between a man and his wife...also, not coincidentally, called a bond (of matrimony). Psa. 119:97, 113, 163,165 Is the wife to which a man is bound "forbidden" to him??? How ridiculous!

Proverbs 3:3 Do not let kindness and truth leave you; Bind them around your neck, Write them on the tablet of your heart.

A silly question, I know, but is the above verse "forbidding" kindness and truth?

For those whose mind goes numb when the TaNaKh is quoted, there is...

Luke 13:16 "And this woman, a daughter of Abraham as she is, whom Satan has bound for eighteen long years, should she not have been released from this bond on the Sabbath day?"

Was this woman "forbidden" to experience disease and distress? Or was she rather tied to them, incapable of release?

Luke 11:46 But He said, "Woe to you lawyers as well! For you weigh men down with burdens hard to bear, while you yourselves will not even touch the burdens with one of your fingers.

Matthew 23:4 "They tie up heavy burdens and lay them on men’s shoulders, but they themselves are unwilling to move them with so much as a finger.

What were these burdens the rabbis, lawyers, scribes, and Pharisees bound on men? These burdens (i.e. rabbinic proclamations) were the precursors of Mishnah and Talmuudh...which were violations of Tohraah. Deut. 4:2, Deut. 12:32. Were the rabbis and Oral lawyers "forbidding" men from keeping their own precious revisions to YHWH's law? Ha...hardly. They DEMANDED such observance. In this instance, it seems that the rabbis weren't even bothering to keep their own Second Temple definition of binding! Or perhaps (much more likely) Yeishuu`a is simply using the definition of "binding" held by both YHWH and plain common sense.

Now, the meaning of "loose" :

Exodus 32:25 Now when Moses saw that the people were out of control—for Aaron had let them get out of control to be a derision among their enemies—
Exodus 32:26 then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, "Whoever is for the Lord, come to me!" And all the sons of Levi gathered together to him.
Exodus 32:27 He said to them, "Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, ‘Every man of you put his sword upon his thigh, and go back and forth from gate to gate in the camp, and kill every man his brother, and every man his friend, and every man his neighbor.’ "
Exodus 32:28 So the sons of Levi did as Moses instructed, and about three thousand men of the people fell that day.

The phrase "get out of control" literally means "to let loose". Did YHWH "permit" Israel to have their little party with His blessing? Ask those 3000...

Psalm 30:11 You have turned for me my mourning into dancing; You have loosed my sackcloth and girded me with gladness,

So, is YHWH "permitting" the sackcloth here, in agreement with the (in some minds "hallowed") rabbis? Or is He instead forever "forbidding" its presence among His people forevermore?

1 Corinthians 7:27 Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be released. Are you released (loosed) from a wife? Do not seek a wife.

We already confirmed that being "bound" to a wife doesn't mean you are "forbidden" a wife. Here Paul confirms the inverse--being loosed does NOT mean one is "permitted" to get another wife.

Virtually EVERYTHING the rabbis did was wrong...they should NEVER be consulted when trying to determine what Yeishuu`a did, said, thought, or meant.

Stop speaking nonsense. Stop repeating lies...yours (speaking broadly) or anyone else's.

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