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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2016 7:38 PM

I think Logos is the best Bible software, and most of us agree on that. The major reason that it is the best is the wonderful library of resources available through Logos.

However, I believe they have made a number of wrong steps in recent years.  They have created a void that is being met by other software companies.  One of their worst mistakes is not taking advantage of the tremendous advances in Windows.  Their software has become somewhat mediocre in my opinion.  And Logos software will be mediocre until they come into the Windows 10 touch world.  No new "features" or data basis can overcome that.

That is just an honest opinion of someone who has used Logos for decades now, and will continue to do so.  I am sure others disagree.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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Blair | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 16 2016 5:23 AM

I think you've nailed it there, David. As the cool factor of macs grew exponentially, and the behemoth that is MS continued to blunder along, Logos probably hired programmers and designers who were born with a mac in their cradle. Mac users seem to have trouble seeing anything good about MS products. There's just a general disinterest in them. The first time the guys at church (ALL mac users) saw my Surface they were quite excited - until I told them it was made by Microsoft. So it wouldn't surprise me if the mac guys at Logos have a similar disinterest in developing for Windows.

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JAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 16 2016 7:44 AM

Blair:
There's just a general disinterest in them. The first time the guys at church (ALL mac users) saw my Surface they were quite excited - until I told them it was made by Microsoft. So it wouldn't surprise me if the mac guys at Logos have a similar disinterest in developing for Windows.

It was reported previously in another thread that several Faithlife developers own and use Surface Pro tablets. The current software is very much tied to Microsoft technologies. For instance Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) is a key technology which the current desktop applications depend upon. This WPF reliance impacts development for OS X.

I too am impatient for better support of the touch functionality in the Windows OS UI.

I have great respect for the development team at Faithlife.

I have been a customer for 20 years. In that time I have installed the software they produce on at least a score of different computers running various versions of Windows and OS X. Some of the computers had specifications significantly below the minimums suggested for the software which often impacted performance, yet the software never failed. I find the current software development continues to provide a robust product that runs well across the diversity of hardware and OSs I use.

There are plenty more things I would like to have in my Faithlife software though not at the expense of reliability and cross platform flexibility.

Regarding Windows touch UI support, I do suspect that developing to support OS X is a factor.

"The Christian mind is the prerequisite of Christian thinking. And Christian thinking is the prerequisite of Christian action." - Harry Blamires, 1963

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David A Egolf | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 14 2016 9:30 AM

Wild Eagle:

Logos works really good on Surface Pro, and I wouldn't be interested in mobile app. Why moble if I can use with all features Desktop Version? But it would be nice if they would make it more touch screen friendly for W10 users. 

I am visiting this thread because of touch screen issues.  It doesn't look like Logos has made improvements in the intervening nearly two years since your post.  However, Microsoft apparently hasn't made it easy and has its own issues in this area.

I just started a new thread to try to get ideas on the virtual keyboard.  I have a Surface Book.  With the keyboard attached, it works just like a laptop except it is faster than my other laptops. :)  With the keyboard detached; i.e., tablet mode, there are problems.  For instance, the touch keyboard does not appear automatically when a cursor is placed in a text field box.  Forums on other products; e.g., Kindle Reader, have also complained about this.  Apparently, the keyboard automation is not easily supplied for any desktop app.  I have even noticed the problem with working with the Windows 10 system settings.

However, Microsoft Edge, the new browser does seem to have this solved.  This makes me think that Logos could deal with this if they had the energy.

While we are talking about the current Surface, I wish to point a really great upgrade to Windows which came with Windows 8; i.e., text to speech.  The reading capability of Logos since Windows 8 has greatly improved.  Give it a try!

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Alan LaPearle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 1 2017 8:20 AM

The full LOGOS 7 software works on the Microsoft Surface Pro line.  The Surface runs in normal full Windows 10 mode as well as Tablet Mode, and LOGOS runs in both modes.

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 1 2017 1:01 PM

Alan LaPearle:

The full LOGOS 7 software works on the Microsoft Surface Pro line.  The Surface runs in normal full Windows 10 mode as well as Tablet Mode, and LOGOS runs in both modes.

Alan, welcome to the forums.

I just switched my Surface Pro 4 to tablet mode and it does appear that Logos is working in tablet mode. This hasn't been the case in the past. It's been buggy. I'm going to have to work with this a bit to make sure it is stable. If so, then I'll be happy because the only reason I have run my SP4 in laptop mode is because of Logos.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 19 2017 1:08 PM

I finally sold my SP1 Original and now have the SP3 which I may also sell to upgrade to the 4 some day soon.  Praise God.

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