Torah Reading Plan

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Paul Schack | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Nov 30 2009 12:48 PM

I am the Torah reader for a Messianic Congregation.  Is there any plan to include a reading schedule to coincide with the weekly Parasha?

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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 30 2009 2:02 PM

Paul,

Make contact with Phil Gons - pgons (at) logos.com. He should be able to put you in contact with someone to help organise such a lectionary...

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Paul Schack | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 30 2009 2:48 PM

Damian,

How do I contact him?

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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 30 2009 2:53 PM

That was his email address - disguised to stop spammers scraping the site:

pgons (at) logos.com

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Paul Schack | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 30 2009 3:10 PM

thanks, I should have figured that out.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 30 2009 6:19 PM

Paul Schack:
I am the Torah reader for a Messianic Congregation.  Is there any plan to include a reading schedule to coincide with the weekly Parasha?

I'm close to finished with a spreadsheet of data that Logos may use if they want. It contains:

  1. Parasha (1 year cycle, 7 aliyot, maftir torah)
  2. Parasha (3 year cycle, 7 aliyot, maftir torah)
  3. Waiting to receive information - midweek Torahs
  4. Haftarah for 1 year cycle (Ashkenazic, Shephardic, Italian, Yemenite, Karaite)
  5. Still deciding on including use of Tehillim
  6. Still searching for non-copyrighted Messianic Jewish readings (or permission to use)
  7. Have permission to present the Gospels paralleled to Parasha from a scholar who suspects that the Gospels were written with the Jewish reading cycle in mind

Anything you think I'm missing? Yes, I know I can't include every possible permuation but I am trying to be useful to a wide swath.

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Ron Corbett | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 10:37 AM

M.J.

That looks very ambitious and very useful. How soon before you could get that user - ready? Is is already in some other form that might be made available to other MJ Congs?

Shalom

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 12:28 PM

Ron Corbett:
Is is already in some other form that might be made available to other MJ Congs?

The non-bold items and the under-copyright Messianic readings are in Excel but not proof-read. I'm am also working on some historical Lutheran lections with morning/evening prayer readings. As to when they will be available, I don't know. Logos 4 do not currently provide for user generated data and, as you may have seen, Logos has expressed an interest. We simply have to wait and see how timing works out. Logos has committed to a fair amount of added features in the first 2 quarters of next year.

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Paul Schack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 2:38 PM

One thing you want to add is the special reading for holidays.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 3:29 PM

Paul Schack:
One thing you want to add is the special reading for holidays.

You are absolutely correct; I don't know why it didn't occur to me when I made the original list. I do have much of the material for it.

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Paul Schack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 3:38 PM

Let me know if I can help.  It sounds like it will take a while but I'd be glad to help.  Most of my material in hard copy, TIkkun, etc.  But I would be glad to assist the project.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 6:17 PM

Thank you. I have left you a message on your Logos page (just click on your name) with my email adress.

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Paul Schack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 2 2009 2:47 PM

I sent an e-mail to you yesterday.  Let me know if you need help with the Holiday readings. 

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Ken Avery | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 2 2009 3:02 PM

This sounds very interesting; today I use an appendix in "The Complete Jewish Bible" by David Stern, having this in Logos would be wonderful.

BTW - Logos has the Jewish New Testament and the Jewish New Testament commentary - not sure why they did not complete the set and add in the Complete Jewish Bible?

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Howard Silverman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 2 2009 7:30 PM

this would be wonderful! there are many of us who would find this quite useful!

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Ken F Hill | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 3 2009 7:28 AM

HowardSilverman:

this would be wonderful! there are many of us who would find this quite useful!

I am one who would.

 

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Darren Huckey | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 13 2011 4:55 AM

Has their been any forward movement to this? There are an ever-increasing number of Christians who are reading the Torah portions alongside Judaism. We've been doing it for over 10 years now. I would really like to see this integrated. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help get this going. Thanks!

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 13 2011 8:46 AM

MJ. Smith:
Have permission to present the Gospels paralleled to Parasha from a scholar who suspects that the Gospels were written with the Jewish reading cycle in mind

Wow! That sounds interesting! Do you have anything more on this while we wait for Logos? A web link? A book title? Or at least the scholar's name?

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 13 2011 9:53 AM

fgh:

MJ. Smith:
Have permission to present the Gospels paralleled to Parasha from a scholar who suspects that the Gospels were written with the Jewish reading cycle in mind

Wow! That sounds interesting! Do you have anything more on this while we wait for Logos? A web link? A book title? Or at least the scholar's name?

Is there a reason you would not wish to use the traditional parasha?  Here is a site which has a listing

http://www.yashanet.com/shabbat/parsha.htm

george
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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 13 2011 10:04 AM

George Somsel:

fgh:

MJ. Smith:
Have permission to present the Gospels paralleled to Parasha from a scholar who suspects that the Gospels were written with the Jewish reading cycle in mind

Wow! That sounds interesting! Do you have anything more on this while we wait for Logos? A web link? A book title? Or at least the scholar's name?

 

Is there a reason you would not wish to use the traditional parasha?  Here is a site which has a listing

http://www.yashanet.com/shabbat/parsha.htm

If you are looking for NT readings to coincide with the parasha, I would suggest checking a lectionary to see what is used with them.  Unfortunately, it appears that today's reading is Ex 27.20-30.10 which doesn't seem to appear in either the Catholic Lectionary or the RCL.  In such cases it may be necessary to supply your own gospel and other readings to go with the Torah readings such as Mt 5.13-16.  For the robes in this passage it might be appropriate to read something like Re 3.14-22.

george
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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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