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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 10:26 AM

DMB:

After playing around with it a while, the problem seems to be in the Tools > Settings > Startup option. If it's set to a specific layout, all goes well. If it's set to 'Home' then during startup, it seems to think it has loaded the last used layout, even though no layout is actually loaded.  The title shows a layout loaded but a blank screen. Then if you go to the layout panel, it has the last-used-layout as checked even though the layout in use is blank.

So I'm guessing if there's an issue, it's in the 'Home' logic in combination with a previously used layout.

I can reproduce this problem (although not opening to a blank screen; when I select "Home", the home page opens).

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 10:40 AM

Thank you Bradley!

Scott, it's five W7 windows (single touch-screen).

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"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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Tony Nunez | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 11:10 AM

Hi

My computer isn't able to update for some reason.  When I start Logos it asks if I'd like to update and say yes.  It begins install but then I get the following pop-up:

"Error writing to file: C:\Users\Tony\AppData\Local\Logos4\en-US\logos.exe.mui.  Verify that you have access to that directory" and when I click "retry" it just keeps popping up.  I can personally navigate to that file but the Logos install doesn't seem to be able to.  I've disabled my antivirus and still didn't work.

Specs:  Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit on a Dell XPS laptop with i7-2760QM 8 GB RAM and AVG anti-virus

Current version of Logos:  5.0a SR-4 (5.0.1.0291) 

Thanks

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 11:37 AM

Hi Tony,

Sorry about the trouble. Try the solution here http://www.logos.com/support/logos5/windows/error-writing-to-file. Let me know if that helps or not. 

 

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Michael A. Lasley | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 1:49 PM

On the layout panel naming change.

I noticed if I am in a named panel and decide to use it as a starting place to create a different pattern, then I go and name the new one, the focus does not change and would have caused problems if I had not noticed it. What I mean is that there is a check mark on the one I started with. Then I create a new name from the changes. That stores properly, but the check mark stays on the first layout. Now if I started reading on my new layout I would be in the old one and when I quit I would lose all I did. So I went and selected the new one I stored and it completely overwrote the one I was in, even though they were the same. I hope you understand what I am trying to convey. When you rename a layout to a new name at the current layout, it saves but does not change the focus to that new name. This could cause problems I think.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 2:23 PM

Absolutely correct Michael. When you 'save' a layout, it requires a 'renaming' process, at which that's the current layout and should  be awarded the checkmark.

That's how conceptually it works in Libronix, as well as most word processors.  I have my own Bible software, and disaster strikes if the new name isn't assigned to the current view in the system.  The user who borders on stupid (me), always forgets.

 I suspect they view the process as having a stack of cards on the right side of the layout menu, and simply giving names to the stack of cards. Not naming the actual layout the user is using and therefore not moving the checkmark or the title of the window.

 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 2:36 PM

Michael Lasley:
When you rename a layout to a new name at the current layout, it saves but does not change the focus to that new name. This could cause problems I think.

This is one of the gotcha's with Active Layout. It expects you to keep track of layout changes and the relationship to the "Active" name i.e. in this case you have to "load" the newly named layout to make it active. Other cases are more prone to error.

Michael Lasley:
Now if I started reading on my new layout I would be in the old one and when I quit I would lose all I did.

When you exit Logos it is saved as "Application Closed" along with others of the same name. Depending on your Settings (below) it could be loaded on restart, but with the wrong name.

 

Dave
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Dan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 6:04 PM

I love the Mobile Download Management feature!

It could be enhanced a bit. Here are a couple of suggestions:

  1. Show registration date (useful for when apps were registered on same device mutliple times, i.e., after device wipe, etc.)
  2. Show additional info to identify device (useful in cases where a user has more than one of the same device model and apps were registered on all of them). Amazon uses device serial number, but not sure if this is the wisest choice.

Thanks.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 7:22 PM

Bradley Grainger (Logos):

DMB:

After playing around with it a while, the problem seems to be in the Tools > Settings > Startup option. If it's set to a specific layout, all goes well. If it's set to 'Home' then during startup, it seems to think it has loaded the last used layout, even though no layout is actually loaded.  The title shows a layout loaded but a blank screen. Then if you go to the layout panel, it has the last-used-layout as checked even though the layout in use is blank.

So I'm guessing if there's an issue, it's in the 'Home' logic in combination with a previously used layout.

I can reproduce this problem (although not opening to a blank screen; when I select "Home", the home page opens).

I ran this scenario, and:

When using the “HOME” choice from the settings is loaded the home page, when I was thinking it would load my made “HOME” layout..

I renamed it to “CLEAN” and it loaded just fine - changed the settings to this as well….

So I deleted the home-made icon and it removed it from the settings as well, but did notice that there was still a choice of “HOME” in the list, which when chosen loads the home page….

I let everything sync. Then restarted the program. I then loaded a homemade layout, from my own icons, went to settings and chose the “Blank Layout” from the settings then closed the program after it sync’d.

When I re-strated the program everything did as expected, loaded to a blank screen, no misunderstandings from the program.

There was no apparent problem of stating one layout and loading another. The title bar claimed nothing as being loaded, even tho I closed with a chosen layout from my home-made icons. Also, i did not have to "update active layout" before i closed the program, when I chose it[icon] it loaded to where i was..... 

It seems to be having a pharsing problem when you have a custom icon called “HOME”. 

Hope this helps.

 

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 7:38 PM

Bradley Grainger (Logos):

DMB:

After playing around with it a while, the problem seems to be in the Tools > Settings > Startup option. If it's set to a specific layout, all goes well. If it's set to 'Home' then during startup, it seems to think it has loaded the last used layout, even though no layout is actually loaded.  The title shows a layout loaded but a blank screen. Then if you go to the layout panel, it has the last-used-layout as checked even though the layout in use is blank.

So I'm guessing if there's an issue, it's in the 'Home' logic in combination with a previously used layout.

I can reproduce this problem (although not opening to a blank screen; when I select "Home", the home page opens).

I ran this scenario, SECOND RUN;

Created an icon and called it 'word study' - open some resources and linked them etc., etc. like it was real.

Created a second icon and called it 'pseudo-apoc' - loaded resources as above stated.

restart.

Loaded the wordstudy and set the settings to "Wordstudy" - opend the pseudo from my icon, let sync.

restart

The title bar claims "WORDSTUDY" but the layouts are discombobbulated - it seems to want to load both.....

hope this helps.....

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John Duffy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2013 4:14 AM

DMB:

Can't post a picture; it's on 5 windows.  It started out with Logos4 on a netbook when resources were slow to load. But eventually it became 'my platform'. OT is in one window, NT another, lexicons all linked in another along with pre-set search panels and pre-set library, etc. Plus a couple of reading windows (separate subject areas).

 Logos has a lot little tweaks that are nice. One is the ability to have multiple comparison panels, cited-by panels, search panels, etc which then allows creating tailored layouts per window (and not having to re-invent each time).

So with W7's stable 'sleep' I simply load it and it's there for use for weeks at a time. All in predictable places, etc.  What's even better is that the windows load out predictably into the MS Windows task bar so each is in a known order.

DMB, I haven't counted the number of resources that I have 'open' in multiple panes, but it is at least thirty or forty.  Thankfully, this doesn't slow Logos down since it only seems to access a resource when it is shown, so multiple resources that are listed is tabs but which have not been viewed yet don't seem to hog system resources.  It seems that only the visible content is cached, not the tabs that are behind.

But it would be great to be able to open/close a pane which contains multiple related resources (e.g. original language lexicons/dictionaries etc, or another with commentaries) independently.  At present, everything is saved as a layout.  It would be great to be able to open/close sub-layout panes one at a time, without affecting other panes.  Here is a link to the uservoice suggestion for this: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-5/suggestions/1035553-floating-window-layouts

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Tony Nunez | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 11:08 AM

Tommy Ball:

Hi Tony,

Sorry about the trouble. Try the solution here http://www.logos.com/support/logos5/windows/error-writing-to-file. Let me know if that helps or not. 

 

Yes it worked!  Thanks heaps!

tony

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