In Search, type in "when thou shalt make his soul" - do a lemma search on the word "when" and I have amongst others, Vines listed for the word. When I click on the Vines, I get the word "mother" -------- my question is, why is Vines listed there to begin with?
Bootjack:my question is, why is Vines listed there to begin with?
The simplest answer is that 1) Vines is prioritized in your library OR 2) You don't have enough other prioritized resources with that headword (so it randomly picks one). Are either of those things possible?
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I don't see this - when I follow your steps (doing the original search as a Bible search against "All Bibles") then I get the search results below:
Alabama --- Vine's is prioritized but why does it not pop up in other words searches? It seems in a word I'm looking for in the Search, those lexicons / Dictionaries with the words in them will come up but not as a rule. But then am I in error on this?
Vines Dictionary is # 38 from the top of the prioritized list. The collected writings of Vine are # 8 from the top. But I'm not getting the latter in my Search - I'm getting the former.
Graham - I noticed your arrow is on Basic - mine is on Bible.
Bootjack: Alabama --- Vine's is prioritized but why does it not pop up in other words searches? It seems in a word search, those lexicons / Dictionaries with the words in them will come up - BUT - then am I in error on this? Vines Dictionary is # 38 from the top of the prioritized list. The collected writings of Vine are # 8 from the top. But I'm not getting the latter in my Search - I'm getting the former.
Alabama --- Vine's is prioritized but why does it not pop up in other words searches? It seems in a word search, those lexicons / Dictionaries with the words in them will come up - BUT - then am I in error on this?
It is hard for me to know for sure, but the resources that appear should always be the top five highest prioritized resources with that headword. Without owning those resources, and without being able to sit down at your computer with you, my guess is that "the collected writings of Vine" doesn't have the headword and "Vine's Dictionary" does.
When you write that Vines Dictionary is #38, I assume you mean it is #38 in the entire list… which is largely irrelevant. You could have 3,000 phone books prioritized above vines, and vines would still show up… because the phone books aren't tagged for the headword. Does that make sense? I assume that my explanation explains what you are seeing, but it could be something else… to know for sure we would need much more info, including screenshots.
Thanks for the reply. My question would be then - why the inconsistency. When I click on any word, the five lexicons / dictionaries that come up have the word I'm looking for. I'm saying this from memory. I found it strange that Vines came up there today and didn't give me the particular word I was after. But again - this is from what I remember and again, I suppose I might be in error on this.
Bootjack:I found it strange that Vines came up there today and didn't give me the particular word I was after. But again - this is from what I remember and again, I suppose I might be in error on this.
You would need to attempt this again and post screen shots to learn any more.
There is a possibility that your copy of vines is out of date, or that one of your indexes has become corrupt. The simplest thing you could try is the command "update resources." Rebuilding indexes may be necessary, but always as a last resort.
Bootjack: In Search, type in "when thou shalt make his soul" - do a lemma search on the word "when" and I have amongst others, Vines listed for the word. When I click on the Vines, I get the word "mother" -------- my question is, why is Vines listed there to begin with?
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The usage notes part makes sense - I'm wondering why Vines is brought up in the list at all in the case under consideration.
Bootjack: The usage notes part makes sense - I'm wondering why Vines is brought up in the list at all in the case under consideration.
Bootjack:Alabama --- Vine's is prioritized but why does it not pop up in other words searches?
As you might gather, Vine's is getting a little long in the tooth as a serious lexicon. Mounce has definitions for both "when" (H518) and "mother" (H517) whereas Vine's only has H517 which is close enough in form to give a match. Even TLOT disgraced itself with this word.
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Dave Hooton: Bootjack:Alabama --- Vine's is prioritized but why does it not pop up in other words searches? As you might gather, Vine's is getting a little long in the tooth as a serious lexicon. Mounce has definitions for both "when" (H518) and "mother" (H517) whereas Vine's only has H517 which is close enough in form to give a match. Even TLOT disgraced itself with this word.
Summary so far: [open for review]Vines has a note that it does not cover the word and did that note get hit?
Then, once the resource got hit, the place where that word should have been gets hit and we, missing the warning note, and seeing text we assume that the text we see is the hit and don't notice that the hit was for the empty space just before the text on Mother.
David Ames: Summary so far: [open for review]Vines has a note that it does not cover the word and did that note get hit? Then, once the resource got hit, the place where that word should have been gets hit and we, missing the warning note, and seeing text we assume that the text we see is the hit and don't notice that the hit was for the empty space just before the text on Mother.
Here's a couple screen shots ---
Again, my point being - Vines should not come up in that list when it's not giving the word I'm asking for.
Bootjack: Again, my point being - Vines should not come up in that list when it's not giving the word I'm asking for.
Well, Bootjack, you arrived at an interesting question.
We all bounce around in our reading. In my case, the book on Anat was finally released from imprisonment in its collection; I bought it hoping it was Libronix. It wasn't so I got a refund. But in the meantime Anat (mother / brother) came up for air under your search (along with Demons and Deities for 'Mother' also). I suspect the TLOT connection is the answer that Dave aludes to, but we'd need some serious expertise. There's a whole raft of books mentioning 'Mother'.
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