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John Kaess | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Apr 5 2013 9:50 AM

I have selected "1 column" in the settings tab.  I am using an iPad 3 in landscape mode with the latest version of the Logos app.  I continually, repeatedly, OFTEN, frustratingly, find that when I am reading a resource in the app, if I tap (or even touch) the left side of the page to go back a page, instead a SECOND column pops up with my Bible version even though I have specifically set the columns to single and not auto.  I then have to manually drag the unwanted column off to the left.  You may say, "well swipe back instead of tapping to go back a page."  Often it is just an incidental accidental touch and up pops the second column.  This should not happen.  Accidentally or otherwise.

Am I alone in this?  Is there no way to keep the second column from continually popping up?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 5 2013 9:57 AM

Hi John

I think what you are describing is "splitting the screen" as opposed to having multiple columns.

This (along with other things) was discussed in http://community.logos.com/forums/p/57158/408704.aspx but I am not aware of any response from Logos as to whether this is intended or not. (I suspect it is)

As I noted in that discussion:

"It is as though there is a thin slice up the right-hand edge which if you tap results in a split-screen, then a thin slice just to the left of it which if you tap moves on to the next page."

So the trick is to try and avoid that thin slice when you are tapping the screen!

Is this consistent with what you are seeing?

Graham 

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John Kaess | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 5 2013 10:10 AM
Yes. Byt in my experience the thin slice exists on both the textreme right and extreme left, and i unintentionall manage to tough them bith frequently. There needs to be a way to disable this "feature" or at the very least, if an accudental touch can split the screen there needs to be a quick, simple, easy way to revert to a non-split screen. Pardon the typos, the web firum software still does not allow corrections when using an ipad. Another "feature" which yas existed far too long.
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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 5 2013 10:33 AM

John Kaess:
Yes. Byt in my experience the thin slice exists on both the textreme right and extreme left

There is only one button, but it slides. Think of it like a zipper. If the button is on the right, you can tap on it and it goes to split screen. You can also slide it to split the screen in the proportion you desire. As you slide it from right to left, eventually the button is on the LEFT side, rather than the right. NOTE: this is in landscape mode. In portrait mode the same thing applies, but it is "up & down" rather than "left & right".

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Andy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 5 2013 10:39 AM

John Kaess:
Pardon the typos, the web firum software still does not allow corrections when using an ipad.

One workaround (as inelegant as it is) is to select another text field (e.g. the field designated 'tags') before reselecting the main text field. When reselecting the main text field, you should then be able to edit your original text. 

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John Kaess | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 5 2013 10:53 AM

alabama24:

John Kaess:
Yes. Byt in my experience the thin slice exists on both the textreme right and extreme left

There is only one button, but it slides. Think of it like a zipper. If the button is on the right, you can tap on it and it goes to split screen. You can also slide it to split the screen in the proportion you desire. As you slide it from right to left, eventually the button is on the LEFT side, rather than the right.

So, you are saying that an accidental touch can split your screen, but that fixing this takes a touch and drag, and that thee is NO way to disable or turn off the "feature".

I don't remember seeing loads of people asking for a feature that allows unintentional accidental screen splitting.  And is it unreasonable to have a way to instantly revert the screen to the way it was after accidentally touching the screen?  And is having a feature that instantly changes the layout of your reading which can be implemented through an accidental touch good design?  Perhaps making this "feature" selectable in settings, or maybe requiring a confirmation box tap before it implements might make sense?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 5 2013 11:50 AM

John Kaess:
So, you are saying that an accidental touch can split your screen, but that fixing this takes a touch and drag, and that thee is NO way to disable or turn off the "feature".

Yes.

John Kaess:
is having a feature that instantly changes the layout of your reading which can be implemented through an accidental touch good design?

I don't ever use split screen, but I know that many other users do. I rarely ever have any troubles with it accidentally opening… It must be the way you are holding the device. I'll play around with it when I am with my iPad next. Did you say that you are using landscape most often?

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John Kaess | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 5 2013 11:57 AM

I use landscape almost exclusively.

i have been playing around with this for the ast few minutes and i beluve i ave arrived at a reasonable solution.

the split screen should ONLY activate when the small grey quarter circle is tapped.  Currently brushing the edge of the screen ANYWHERE activates the split screen.  If this could be fixed to only occur when tapping the quarter circle grey spot, the problem would be resolved and i think it would serve those who want to split the screen and those who do not.

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Janis Lewman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 5 2013 3:20 PM

iPad split pane

Apologies if this has been discussed previously.  I've tried to post this separately but keep getting errors.  How can I change the book appearing on the right pane, or can that be done?  I have the current day's text from reading plan on the left side.  if I drag the gray circle at bottom right of screen to access the split screen, what appears on the right side is Brook's Summarized Bible Complete Summary of New Testament.  It would be useful to be able to select a different resource, as needed, on right pane.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 5 2013 3:31 PM

Hi Janis

  • tap on the book in the right pane so it has focus
  • press the small icon at the top left of the screen which will slide in a panel on the left
  • swipe left or right in that panel until you find a library pane
  • Find the book you want in your library
  • Press on it and it should appear in the right half of the split pane

Hope this helps, Graham

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Janis Lewman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 5 2013 3:49 PM

Ah, yes that works.  Thank you Graham!

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David A Egolf | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 7 2013 9:51 PM

Graham Criddle:

Hi Janis

  • tap on the book in the right pane so it has focus
  • press the small icon at the top left of the screen which will slide in a panel on the left
  • swipe left or right in that panel until you find a library pane
  • Find the book you want in your library
  • Press on it and it should appear in the right half of the split pane

Hope this helps, Graham

I am scanning the forum tonight looking for a solution to this specific issue. I have tried to control "focus", but many times the newly selected resource seems to have a mind of its own on which frame it opens.  Focus seems to be touchy.  I wish there was an explicit control to designate where I wish to open the resource.

Your explanation, Graham, at least gives me confidence that what I had been attempting to do should work.

Thanks,

David

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Gary Butner, Th.D. | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 10 2013 10:08 PM

I have an iPad 3, and use Logos in landscape mode all the time. I am  constantly having the split screen appear. Logos needs to fix this problem.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 11 2013 4:21 AM

Gary Butner:
Logos needs to fix this problem.

What do you suggest? There isn't a "bug" ...the issue is a user interface issue. How would you have Logos change the UI so that users can create a split screen? I think the UI is pretty good… but I can imagine how irritating it would be to continually get the split screen. Tongue Tied

I have two suggestions… one for you to try, and perhaps one for Logos to think about.

  1. If you primarily hold the device in your right hand, move the slider to the left side (or vice versa). I know that you will be holding the device with BOTH hands, but you are likely favoring one hand over the other. By moving the slider away from your dominant hand, you are less likely to accidently create the split screen. [The split screen is only formed when you hit the button, so move it away from your dominant hand].
  2. It might be good for Logos to add a lock mechanism for split screen to help out users like yourself. I personally don't use split screen often, but I think it is easy to use. If I were to use it more often, I wouldn't want it to be more difficult to access.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 11 2013 5:14 AM

alabama24:
I personally don't use split screen often, but I think it is easy to use. If I were to use it more often, I wouldn't want it to be more difficult to access.

Hi Alabama - I think the point being made is not that the split is difficult to access but that it appears when its not wanted. That is, you press on the edge of the screen to flip the page but you end up with the screen splitting. (Sorry if this was already clear)

As posted above, it seems to be a particular segment of the screen which does this - and I think this has to be a deliberate design decision by Logos.

I used to get this a lot but have "trained myself" to avoid that portion of the screen and I manage to avoid it now most of the time.

Having said that, I normally have the screen split anyway and so the issue doesn't ariseSmile

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 11 2013 7:40 AM

Graham - I understood. I was responding to the "fix this" and was pointing out that others would not want it "fixed." The issue of accidentally creating a split screen happens when the semi-circle slider button is touched. By moving the slider to the opposite side should hopefully fix this for them. 

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John Kaess | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 11 2013 8:06 AM

Alabama24 you are incorrect.  If the split screen only happened when the semicircle was touched, you would be correct.  This is absolutely NOT the case.  A touch ANYWHERE along the edge of the screen which as the semicircle triggers the split screen.  This is in fact a "bug" and it can and should be fixed.  There is bo need for the split screen to be triggered by accidentally touching the edge if the screen.  This does not remove a eature, nor dies it remove the ability to orposefully trigger a split screen by touching the semicircle.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 11 2013 8:34 AM

Hi John

I agree with your description of what happens but...

John Kaess:
This is in fact a "bug"

I don't know whether this is Logos' opinion - this may be something which they have designed in to the app.

So it would be really good to get their perspective on this.

Graham

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 11 2013 9:35 AM

I am completely unable to replicate this. The ONLY time I can create a split screen is when the area surrounding the semi circle is tapped. Touching the side of the page, turns the page. If there is a bug, i cant replicate it.

Could you guys at least humor me and move the slide to the opposite side? Also, what device & OS are you running? Perhaps we can track down a bug that way. 

NOTE: the semi-circle might be hidden, but the area is still active. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 11 2013 9:39 AM

OK, I've been able to replicate, but only with a quick, double tap, and only in landscape. Is that what you are seeing? If I report this in the beta forum, I need to be precise. 

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