Bart Ehrman's Books
Even though I know he no longer holds his Christian believe, but I think Bart Ehrman's books are very important to be part of the Logos resource library, as he is one of the most quoted scholar reference by atheists, as well as the leading NT textual criticism scholar in the world (he did study under Bruce Metzger)
We should recognise his hard work in his field as well as to study what he wrote in order to rebuke and defend our believes.
Currently all his books are available under Amazon's kindle (including his more formal writings published by the Oxford University Press), but it lack the cross reference/dictionary in the Logos engine, so its hard for some of us who would like to go deeper, the other thing is all koine greek and coptic used in the kindle are treated as image rather than text font, so you can just select a potion of the text, and you can't look up the individual greek/coptic word.
"And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free", John 8:32.
"你們必定認識真理，真理必定使你們自由", 約翰福音 8:3.
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Sounds interesting. But beware that you will receive a flood of "If they do that, I will no longer buy any of Logos resources". I say bring it on.
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I would buy them except how do I know for absolutely-positively-without-a-single-doubt sure that Ehrman wrote them and that the words contained therein are truly his?
Instead of Artificial Intelligence, I prefer to continue to rely on Divine Intelligence instructing my Natural Dullness (Ps 32:8, John 16:13a)
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JRS said:
I would buy them except how do I know for absolutely-positively-without-a-single-doubt sure that Ehrman wrote them and that the words contained therein are truly his?
We would have to search for the earliest, most credible edition then do some textual criticism. [;)]
george
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[:D]
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Very funny! Thank you!
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George Somsel said:JRS said:
I would buy them except how do I know for absolutely-positively-without-a-single-doubt sure that Ehrman wrote them and that the words contained therein are truly his?
We would have to search for the earliest, most credible edition then do some textual criticism.
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Bohuslav
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George Somsel said:JRS said:
I would buy them except how do I know for absolutely-positively-without-a-single-doubt sure that Ehrman wrote them and that the words contained therein are truly his?
We would have to search for the earliest, most credible edition then do some textual criticism.
After all, his true views are likely hidden under the corruptions of his atheist editors.
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The possibility/probablity of errors in transmission (not to mention emendations by well-intentioned editors and proofreaders) is enormous. I suppose we dare not even hope for the autographs.
Instead of Artificial Intelligence, I prefer to continue to rely on Divine Intelligence instructing my Natural Dullness (Ps 32:8, John 16:13a)
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JRS said:
The possibility/probablity of errors in transmission (not to mention emendations by well-intentioned editors and proofreaders) is enormous. I suppose we dare not even hope for the autographs.
Sorry, I think he used a word processor. [;)]
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:JRS said:
The possibility/probablity of errors in transmission (not to mention emendations by well-intentioned editors and proofreaders) is enormous. I suppose we dare not even hope for the autographs.
Sorry, I think he used a word processor.
In which case, how would we know if there is an original manuscript? Electronic storage and transmission are fraught with error, just look at the redactional/morphological/philological/textual artifacts on internet-based documents, not to mention electronic noise, hardware errors, software errors, user errors ... [:S]
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Lee said:
Electronic storage and transmission are fraught with error, just look at the redactional/morphological/philological/textual artifacts on internet-based documents, not to mention electronic noise, hardware errors, software errors,
This is generally not the case. Most errors in internet documents are due to human error, not electronic. All a computer does is to store 1s and 0s.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Having some experience in the matter, I can say that the 1s and 0s can be messed up, either intentionally or without human agency... [H]
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Instead of Artificial Intelligence, I prefer to continue to rely on Divine Intelligence instructing my Natural Dullness (Ps 32:8, John 16:13a)
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That made me laugh. And yes, his work and some others that challenge should be available.
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Latest blog article from Dr Daniel Wallace, again Bart Ehrman's study is important across both liberal and conservative scholars.
http://danielbwallace.com/2013/06/26/where-is-the-story-of-the-woman-caught-in-adultery-really-from/
"And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free", John 8:32.
"你們必定認識真理，真理必定使你們自由", 約翰福音 8:3.0 -
JRS said:
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Hey, we don't use that kind of language around here!
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