EDIT: Three more forthcoming titles:
Strongly supported! [Y] [Y]
(I must admit I bought some of those in Kindle version already since they're not in Logos)
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Wow. I had no idea there were so many. These type of books are great when one is first trying to sort it all out ... much better than a quickie Wiki article where the author may or may not be a proponent. I would much rather read about a position from a knowledgeable, cogent adherent who must also defend it and argue against other positions.
Put them all into a well-priced collection and I'll buy the bunch! [Y][Y][Y]
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Wow. I had no idea there were so many.
I think the influx of so many of this kind of book is an indication that we now live in a world where we rub shoulders more easily with those of differing viewpoints (the widening spectrum of Logos users also attests to this). We are also recognizing that we can disagree on points of theology and yet still be friends and have serious dialogue about topics of deep concern to all sides. And we might be persuaded to change our minds on some deeply held positions because we realize we might have been formed theologically in a community that didn't have it right after all. And we also recognize that it might be impossible from the limited framework of the human mind to figure out ultimately what is the one correct answer to complex issues (maybe there isn't just one correct answer, in fact). We might all have a little bit of the truth and need to learn from each other's views to nuance our own.
I think it's a wonderful development, and I want to read as many such books as I can get my hands on.
All of these books would be valuable as Logos resources. I would be especially interested in the Three Views on the Millennium.
I would be especially interested in the Three Views on the Millennium.
Read it several times ... it is one of the more dog-eared volumes remaining on my diminishing book shelves. Highly recommended ... but not just for sorting out one's eschatology, but also for one's hermeneutic.
EDIT: Sorry. You are referring to Bock's book which I have not read. I was referring to 4 Views by Clouse et al.
We are also recognizing that we can disagree on points of theology and yet still be friends and have serious dialogue about topics of deep concern to all sides.
Surely you jest. What fun is it if you can't be disagreeable?
No, I'm jesting. [:D]
And we might be persuaded to change our minds on some deeply held positions because we realize we might have been formed theologically in a community that didn't have it right after all.
Tradition(s) can cut both ways, can't they? On the one hand, they can protect us from error and veering off into theological la-la land. But on the other hand, they can also be the constraint that keep us from growth and truth. Have to keep reading, analyzing, thinking, questioning, and re-evaluating all presuppositions/axioms (even/esp. the ones you **know** are true).
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And we might be persuaded to change our minds on some deeply held positions because we realize we might have been formed theologically in a community that didn't have it right after all. Tradition(s) can cut both ways, can't they? On the one hand, they can protect us from error and veering off into theological la-la land. But on the other hand, they can also be the constraint that keep us from growth and truth. Have to keep reading, analyzing, thinking, questioning, and re-evaluating all presuppositions/axioms (even/esp. the ones you **know** are true).
Indeed! I like the motto of the denomination which I was shaped by for many years, "ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda" (the church reformed, always being reformed). We can never sit on our laurels knowing we've got it all figured out. God is always at work reforming us, both as church bodies, and also individually. I'm grateful for having been exposed to and worshiped with many different Christian traditions. Helps me not to be tempted to fossilize any one of them as the only true path to God.
Don't leave out Zondervan's new entry in their Petty Church Controversies series, "Choir Robe Colors: Four Views"
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And we might be persuaded to change our minds on some deeply held positions because we realize we might have been formed theologically in a community that didn't have it right after all. Tradition(s) can cut both ways, can't they? On the one hand, they can protect us from error and veering off into theological la-la land. But on the other hand, they can also be the constraint that keep us from growth and truth. Have to keep reading, analyzing, thinking, questioning, and re-evaluating all presuppositions/axioms (even/esp. the ones you **know** are true). Indeed! I like the motto of the denomination which I was shaped by for many years, "ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda" (the church reformed, always being reformed). We can never sit on our laurels knowing we've got it all figured out. God is always at work reforming us, both as church bodies, and also individually. I'm grateful for having been exposed to and worshiped with many different Christian traditions. Helps me not to be tempted to fossilize any one of them as the only true path to God.
Peace, Rosie! *smile* Great post! Also, I give you great credit for this phrase that I think I've never come across before ... it's great, eh??? You wrote: "Helps me not to be tempted to fossilize any one of them as the only true path to God."
You surely must "copyright" that, Rosie!
Indeed! I like the motto of the denomination which I was shaped by for many years, "ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda" (the church reformed, always being reformed).
Obviously some member of the reformed camp. That was one of the first things I heard when I transferred to Calvin. Since you aren't Dutch (of course, neither am I), I would guess Presby—probably Orthodox Presby.
Since you aren't Dutch (of course, neither am I), I would guess Presby—probably Orthodox Presby.
Yup it was Presby, but PCUSA. You ought to know me well enough by now to know I'm not as conservative as OPC (e.g., no women preachers). I'm now a member of a Mennonite church (a lay run congregation where I preach a couple of times a year), though the reformed theology is still an important part of my spiritual formation and belief system. I would never have had the pacifist side of me without the Mennonites, though. Or perhaps I had an inchoate form of it before (from having had some Quaker ancestors), but it was never fully developed, and I couldn't have articulated a biblical defense of it in the past. When I found it in the Mennonites I've been worshiping with, it felt like it fulfilled a piece of me. That's what I mean about the benefit of exposure to multiple viewpoints to shape our theology.
I would never have had the pacifist side of me without the Mennonites, though. Or perhaps I had an inchoate form of it before (from having had some Quaker ancestors),
You mean it was in the genes (or should that be jeans?). [:D]
Ha! [:D]
I like the motto of the denomination which I was shaped by for many years, "ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda" (the church reformed, always being reformed).
There's also the Carthusian version: "numquam reformata, quia numquam deformata", "never reformed, because never deformed".[:)]
I like the motto of the denomination which I was shaped by for many years, "ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda" (the church reformed, always being reformed). There's also the Carthusian version: "numquam reformata, quia numquam deformata", "never reformed, because never deformed".
There's also the Carthusian version: "numquam reformata, quia numquam deformata", "never reformed, because never deformed".
That sounds like a good excuse to never change—or at least never make any improvements. It must be nice to think you're perfect.
Except it wasn't said by them. It was said about them.[;)]
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Baptism book (Spectrum) has contributions from Sinclair Ferguson, Anthony Lane and Bruce Ware - would be great to have.
Resurrecting an old thread...
Biblical Hermeneutics: Five Views (Spectrum Multiview Books, IVP) edited by Stanley E. Porter and Beth M. Stovell Women in Ministry: Four Views (Spectrum Multiview Books) edited by Bonnidell Clouse and Robert G. Clouse The Meaning of the Millennium: Four Views (Spectrum Multiview Books) edited by Robert G. Clouse Psychology & Christianity: Five Views (Spectrum Multiview Books) edited by Eric L. Johnson Two Views of Hell: A Biblical & Theological Dialogue (Spectrum Multiview Books) edited by Edward William Fudge and Robert A. Peterson Baptism: Three Views (Spectrum Multiview Books) edited by David F. Wright The Nature of the Atonement: Four Views (IVP) edited by James Beilby and Paul R. Eddy Church, State and Public Justice: Five Views (IVP) edited by P. C. Kemeny Christian Spirituality: Five Views of Sanctification (IVP Acadmic) edited by Donald L. Alexander Perspectives on the Doctrine of God: Four Views (Perspectives, B&H) edited by Bruce A. Ware Perspectives on the Sabbath: Four Views (Perspectives) edited by Christopher John Donato Perspectives on Tithing: Four Views (Perspectives) edited by David A. Croteau Perspectives on Our Struggle with Sin: Three Views of Romans 7 (Perspectives) edited by Terry L. Wilder Perspectives on Family Ministry: Three Views (Perspectives) edited by Timothy Paul Jones Are Miraculous Gifts for Today? Four Views (Counterpoints, Zondervan) edited by Wayne A. Grudem Three Views on Creation and Evolution (Counterpoints) edited by J.P. Moreland and John Mark Reynolds Four Views on Salvation in a Pluralistic World (Counterpoints) edited by Dennis L. Okholm and Timothy R. Phillips (Editor) Four Views on Hell (Counterpoints) edited by William Crockett Three Views on the Millennium and Beyond (Counterpoints) edited by Darrell L. Bock Three Views on the Rapture: Pretribulation, Prewrath, or Posttribulation (Counterpoints) edited by Alan Hultberg Three Views on Eastern Orthodoxy and Evangelicalism (Counterpoints) edited by James Stamoolis Two Views on Women in Ministry (Counterpoints) edited by James R. Beck Four Views on the Apostle Paul (Counterpoints) edited by Michael F. Bird Four Views on Christian Spirituality (Counterpoints) edited by Bruce Demarest Four Views of Youth Ministry and the Church (Zondervan) edited by Mark H. Senter III Understanding Spiritual Warfare: Four Views (Baker Academic) edited by James K. Beilby and Paul Rhodes Eddy EDIT: Three more forthcoming titles: Four Views on the Historical Adam (Counterpoints) edited by Ardel B. Caneday and Matthew Barrett Five Views on Biblical Inerrancy (Counterpoints) edited by J. Merrick and Stephen M. Garrett Four Views on the Role of Works at the Final Judgment (Counterpoints) edited by Alan P. Stanley
