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Armwood | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Aug 3 2013 5:57 PM

With so many resources in the biblical world of studies, what  do you find that is MOST needed. For me in the new testament it would be a GREAT early church history book. The old testament would be a GREAT theological book. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2013 5:08 AM

Armwood:
For me in the new testament it would be a GREAT early church history book.

=> http://www.logos.com/product/6091/the-apostolic-fathers-greek-english-interlinear

=> http://www.logos.com/product/17854/greek-apocryphal-gospels-fragments-and-agrapha

Starter and above include => http://www.logos.com/product/575/history-of-the-christian-church

Philip Schaff Collection => http://www.logos.com/product/4597/philip-schaff-collection

Could search for Didache:

Armwood:
The old testament would be a GREAT theological book. 

Suggest filtering library for Old Testament Theology

Searching Logos.com finds many relevant results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=old+testament+theology&start=0&sort=rel&pageSize=60

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2013 5:59 AM

Not exactly sure what you mean by a "great" early church history book.  I'm thinking that you may have some resources in your library already.  Logos has many fine resources.  You can do a search for "early church history" to see that list.  Of course the New Testament book of Acts and the Letter's are the starting point for study of the early church.  Eusebius is considered one of the first church historians and Logos has several volumes from him.  You could search for ecclesiastical history.  Don't forget resources covering the church councils or the history of the Mass.  The development of the liturgy passed on by our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus during the Last Supper.  Difficulties faced by the church in Corinth (1 Cor 11:17ff).  Extra biblical descriptions of the Mass by Justin the Martyr and others.  All these help us understand what the early church was like and how it grew.  I have several volumes in each of these areas and find them useful.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2013 6:28 PM

Armwood:

With so many resources in the biblical world of studies, what  do you find that is MOST needed. For me in the new testament it would be a GREAT early church history book. The old testament would be a GREAT theological book. 

Peace, Armwood!                       *smile*

                   Just wondering about which dates you are most interested in.  I have quite a few Logos books on early church history, but it depends which "time slot" you are most desire to study ....              for example, are you as interested in AD 300's as much as AD 200's??

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2013 6:57 PM

Are you saying that, with all all your resources, you still find the New Testament to be the best early church history book, and the Old Testament to be your greatest theology book?

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Armwood | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2013 7:01 PM

That's good RosieCool

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Armwood | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2013 7:08 PM

Grace and Peace  Milford

The 200's might be a better fit study for me.

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Mike Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2013 7:10 PM

Rosie Perera:

Are you saying that, with all all your resources, you still find the New Testament to be the best early church history book, and the Old Testament to be your greatest theology book?

Yes  Me, too.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2013 7:56 PM

Armwood:

With so many resources in the biblical world of studies, what  do you find that is MOST needed. For me in the new testament it would be a GREAT early church history book. The old testament would be a GREAT theological book. 

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2013 7:57 PM

Armwood:

Grace and Peace  Milford

The 200's might be a better fit study for me.

Great!                           Will think about it and how I can be helpful and then get back to you at an appropriate time!  Blessings!  *smile*

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2013 8:55 PM

Armwood:

For me in the new testament it would be a GREAT early church history book.

Reminds me of something I did years ago. I wanted to learn more about church history,

so I spent a good 6-months or so reading this book: Church History in Plain Language.

I read the print version, not the Logos version. But I'm sure they are about as useful Cool

I made it through that book through sheer force of will. It was extremely boring, about as drab and uninteresting as you could make it. I read through the entire thing and found very little of it to be interesting or memorable. I am told that this book used to be (maybe still is) used in seminaries.

It was quite some time later than I first discovered Phil Schaff's Church History.

The difference was like night and day. Schaff didn't just give you names, places, and dates in a drab and boring format. He explains the how and why of things. He made the events easy to understand, and presented them in a way that was actually fun and interesting to read.

I wish I could say that I have read through Schaff's History of the Christian Church, but I have only read portions here and there. The 8 volume set is massive. But these two accounts of church history are targeting a different audience. The first is for seminary students who want to learn just the facts and dates they need to pass a test and get a degree. Schaff is for those who truly desire to learn and understand those events.

So if someone asks me to recommend a GREAT early church history book, Schaff is the only name that comes to mind.

 

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 5 2013 12:22 AM

Blessings!                  First, John's idea of Philip Schaff -- History of the Christian Church is a very good one ....

Second, I don't know what you have in your Logos Library; however, when I type in   "history early church" (without quotes!) into my library find box I get 262 resources, some of which are truly great!            *smile*

Third, when you type "history early church" (without quotes) into the Logos.com products find box, you come up with a great list also.      I think Armwood that many of us would love to discuss these various resources if it would be helpful to you!

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 5 2013 3:56 AM

George Somsel:
$100,000 to buy whatever I want

I'm with you George.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 5 2013 5:59 AM

It would be good also for Logos to have some works of Kenneth Scott Latourette  ...... I remember studying a history "opus" of his at Concordia Lutheran Seminary in St. Louis more than 50 years ago...            *smile*

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Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 5 2013 7:02 AM

I agree with Armwood on both an early church history book and an OT theology book.

I already searched Logos for a decent church history book and finally gave up. I don't even know if one exists. Most church history books are really just a rehash of the church fathers. And even then they tend to mysteriously skip over 90-150ce, not get beyond Italy/France, and certainly not delve too far from today's theologies (eg completely skips over monsastic, in-depth gnostic, and a fairly significant Christian magic beliefs).

This 'hit home' yesterday again when reading Jeffers Apostolic Fathers and him placing many of the writings in a time earlier than Paul. So much for the NT (scholars placing the earliest as Paul).

An OT theology would also be good. Basically there's pieces from an archaeology standpoint, the traditional OT standpoint, more fragments from the 2nd Temple period, almost nothing on the diaspora (the one I'm reading now is strictly Alexandria), and almost nothing on the Egypt/Israel interface in the Jezreel valley. I'm completely blind to the post-exile in Persia/Babylon even though apparently that was quite significant relative to Galilee in Jesus time.

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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