NIV Bible with Logos 5 Problem

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Alvin Shi | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2013 3:37 AM

First, I've bought Bronze version logos 5 and there is no NIV version. really bad!

Second, I tried to purchase it separately (http://www.logos.com/product/8787/new-international-version) and it gives me an error:

Unable to distribute New International Version (NIV) to your billing country.

I'm in New Zealand BTW, I just could not understand why could not I buy this thing here.  

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 4:11 AM

Hi Alvin - and welcome to the forums

Alvin Shi:
First, I've bought Bronze version logos 5 and there is no NIV version. really bad!

Yes, the NIV is no longer included in any of the base packages. 

Alvin Shi:
I'm in New Zealand BTW, I just could not understand why could not I buy this thing here.  

This is a publisher / distributor licensing issue. 

An anglicised version of the NIV (1984) is available at http://www.logos.com/product/29979/the-holy-bible-new-international-version-anglicised and Logos are working on a version of the NIV (2011) - in prepub at http://www.logos.com/product/33548/the-holy-bible-new-international-version-anglicised

Graham

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 4:19 AM

Of course, neither of those works with the reverse interlinear.Sad

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 4:25 AM

Btw, people shouldn't have to come here to get those links. They should be shown on logos.com, instead of just an "unable to distribute" message.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 4:30 AM

fgh:

Of course, neither of those works with the reverse interlinear.Sad

are you sure? I'd expect Logos to make the NIV2011 interlinear capable of supporting both spelling versions of NIV 2011 (after all, buyers of a base package have paid for the RI and a lot of Logos' functionality depends on the data kept there).

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 4:31 AM

fgh:

Of course, neither of those works with the reverse interlinear.Sad

And that is a very fair point - and a real drawback of this option.

Thanks for pointing it out.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 4:34 AM

NB.Mick:
are you sure? I'd expect Logos to make the NIV2011 interlinear capable of supporting both spelling versions of NIV 2011

the NIV 84 Anglicised certainly does not have RI capabilities.

I would be surprised if the 2011 version does but Logos would need to confirm.

There is an interesting discussion on this topic at http://community.logos.com/forums/p/66127/461601.aspx

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 5:02 AM

Graham Criddle:

 Logos would need to confirm.

that's what I think, too. I resurrected an old NIV RI thread where Rick Brannan was active - if someone knows, it's him.

OT: I still happen to think that in today's world, country-based book publishing licences are a crazy thing.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 6:01 AM

Graham Criddle:

NIV 84 Anglicised certainly does not have RI capabilities. I would be surprised if the 2011 version does but Logos would need to confirm.

Rick Brannan was quick in answering this: Logos is looking into producing a RI for the Anglicised NIV 2011, either way it will be a separate licence, the RI licence for International NIV 2011 will not work on that resource.

Does anybody know if the international NIV 2011 ever made it out to a CD-ROM?

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 6:21 AM

NB.Mick:

OT: I still happen to think that in today's world, country-based book publishing licences are a crazy thing.

They are still thinking Dead Trees and shipping costs

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Alvin Shi | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 1:03 PM

thanks Graham for your reply.

I've got another question, I can see in my package i've got these things:

NIV | English-Greek NT | The English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament New International Version (2011)
NIV | English-Hebrew OT | The English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear

will NIV (1984) support this or it has to be NIV (2011)? Cheers

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 9 2013 1:25 PM

The two resources you own, are the reverse Interlinears for the American English NIV 2011. The resources are worthless without the actual NIV11 text. 

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