The number three best seller needs a PUSH!!!!
I checked the Community Pricing and sorted by best selling and this came up number three
https://www.logos.com/product/8511/the-catholic-encyclopedia
I would say we need to raise our bids but I don't think that usually works. So whether you want to use this to research your church, become a catholic, or apologetics, we need to get more people bidding.
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A push? LOL I think they need a few dumpster trucks full of bids to raise those bars up a little. It's sad some valuable resources may never get to see the light of my laptop to help me with my studies (e.g. Hasting's Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics and The Bible in Seven Acts). [:(]
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The Catholic Encyclopedia would be a very valuable resource to have. I hope it gets over the top before I finally get to be 39 :-) . If you wish to look at it before deciding, you can find it on the internet http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/.Mathew Haferkamp said:I checked the Community Pricing and sorted by best selling and this came up number three
https://www.logos.com/product/8511/the-catholic-encyclopedia
I would say we need to raise our bids but I don't think that usually works. So whether you want to use this to research your church, become a catholic, or apologetics, we need to get more people bidding.
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George Somsel said:
The Catholic Encyclopedia would be a very valuable resource to have. I hope it gets over the top before I finally get to be 39 :-)
Hope we don't need to wait THAT long, but it does not look promising. My bid has been $40 for almost 3 years now. Since that is above the peak, a higher bid would not seem to help at this point, although I would be willing to pay even more.
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This is one of many CP products that seem to be hopelessly stuck.
https://www.logos.com/product/8511/the-catholic-encyclopedia
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No one would expect to read or use every entry in an encyclopedia, however, an encyclopedia of this nature, with each volume containing about 800 pages of detailed information, even if a century old, should be worth $6 a volume to many of us. At $6 per volume the set would be worth slightly over $100, which is less than 10% of the stated print copy value and about 20% of what Logos are expecting should be their "regular" price for the full set.
While I doubt we can persuade everyone to raise their bid to $100, I would suggest everyone look again at the resource and make an assessment of what it would be worth to have it in your library one day and then instead of bidding at the current $30 peak that everyone make an individual decision based on it value to you and bid the MAXIMUM you would be willing to pay (assuming George will be 39 by the year it actually gets released in Logos format, ie: in time for Logos (Verbum) 7 and Windows 10.3)
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$30 isn't going to do it for these large, multi-volume works. Particularly the Catholic Encyclopedia, which is huge.
For it to have any hope, expectations need to be reset: I'd suggest changing your bid to $100 if you really want it to go through.
(Generally I don't recommend 'gaming' the CP system -- it works best if your initial bid is your highest bid. But in this case getting it closer to the line might provoke more serious bids if people see they might miss out. But I doubt that gaming the system (putting in high bids and hoping to reduce them closer to shipping) will help here -- it's already the third-most popular resource on CP. It's just really expensive to produce because it's so large. It has almost twice as many articles as the Anchor Bible Dictionary!)
If you sort Community Pricing by "Best Seller" you can see what has the most interest:
https://www.logos.com/products/search?Status=Community+Pricing&start=&sort=bestselling&pageSize=15
If a title ranks high on this list but isn't near the line, the leading bid is far below what will be needed.
A useful guideline might be to bid 1 cent per page. (Which would put the Catholic Encyclopedia at $136!) The titles that make it seem to hit this metric, or something close to $4-5/volume. (And volumes are often 400-500 pages; in Catholic Encyclopedia they're 800 pages!)
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That is a good explanation Bob and thanks for watching and commenting, but just wondering if you have seen a peak like this actually change? But I will say I am going to change my bid to $60.00. That is double and if most people do that it might raise it enough so other people get interested.
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Bob Pritchett said:
If you sort Community Pricing by "Best Seller" you can see what has the most interest:
https://www.logos.com/products/search?Status=Community+Pricing&start=&sort=bestselling&pageSize=15
I always thought "Best Seller" indicated the popularity of the paper version and not interest by bidders. If that is the case maybe I'm not the only one who is confused by this title. Perhaps it should be called "Most Bids" and it would be great to see how many bids have been submitted to compare.
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The absurdist psychology that surrounds CP items, where massive numbers of sheeple refuse to bid until an item has actually crossed the threshold, appears to have doomed a few highly desirable items. HERE and Catholic Encyclopedia are two that come to mind. It is high time for Logos to kill the current dead-in-the-water CP offers for these two resources, and then reoffer them with revised bid tables. I suggest a lowest bid of $60 or even $70 for both. There are just too many people who haven't gotten the countless memos that the current bids aren't going to take care of business. By reconstituting these with adjusted numbers, they have a decent chance of getting published. But the current impasse is a hopeless dead end.
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I totally agree. But this should have been done at the get go though, because rebooting this CP now after so many bids might will trigger a not-so-agreeable reaction from most bidders; unless Logos explains fully by sending emails to the bidders well in advance of doing so (a month or two), re-sending the emails again and again till they pull the trigger on them and restart them. Otherwise, people will complain. People always complain.David Paul said:It is high time for Logos to kill the current dead-in-the-water CP offers for these two resources, and then reoffer them with revised bid tables.
My bids are currently at $120 for the CE and $70 for the ERE.0
