Bug?or Typo?: BEB Volume Numbers Not Correct

I have noticed that in the Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible, the volume numbers are incorrect. For some reason, the volume numbers say "V 2" from volume 2 through volume 4. So, if you click on the article "Zuzim" it will say "V 2 p 2208 p 2208." Oh and for some reason, the page numbers are always doubled up. That makes no sense to me whatsoever. At the very least, the volume numbers NEED to be replaced.

A MAJOR gripe is the footnoting in Logos. It is VERY inconsistent when it pastes. For some resources it pastes the author of the article, puts the article in quotes, and then the rest of the information (editor, book title, publisher, year, and page number). But for many other resources, only the editor, book title, city, publisher, year, and page number are copied. The volume number is NEVER pasted, and it is important to do so in SBL Handbook of Style. Also, the article from the dictionary/encyclopedia/Lexicon NEEDS to be referenced (in quotes of course), and if the author of the article is known, he/she needs to be before the article title. Another gripe is that this is true for the Lexicons! The citation engine needs to be thoroughly updated for all reference styles (since inconsistency and incorrect ways of citing is true for all of them)!

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Mark Barnes

For some reason, the volume numbers say "V 2" from volume 2 through volume 4. So, if you click on the article "Zuzim" it will say "V 2 p 2208 p 2208."

There's a two volume edition of BEB, and a four volume edition (same content, different binding). The page numbering from Logos is from the two volume edition.

Oh and for some reason, the page numbers are always doubled up.

Logos is providing two reference types here - one for just the page number, and one for volume and page. That helps you, because if you're already in volume two page 100, and what to go to page 200, you don't have to type the whole reference in.

A MAJOR gripe is the footnoting in Logos. It is VERY inconsistent when it pastes. For some resources it pastes the author of the article, puts the article in quotes, and then the rest of the information (editor, book title, publisher, year, and page number). But for many other resources, only the editor, book title, city, publisher, year, and page number are copied. The volume number is NEVER pasted, and it is important to do so in SBL Handbook of Style. Also, the article from the dictionary/encyclopedia/Lexicon NEEDS to be referenced (in quotes of course), and if the author of the article is known, he/she needs to be before the article title. Another gripe is that this is true for the Lexicons! The citation engine needs to be thoroughly updated for all reference styles (since inconsistency and incorrect ways of citing is true for all of them)!

Older Logos resources don't have the tagging necessary for citing individual articles. Newer resources do. It's not the citation engine that needs to be updated, it's every single resource (which truthfully, is unlikely to happen).

Volume number is different issue, though. I'll report that as a bug in the beta forum, as bugs tend to get noticed more readily there.

Caleb S.

Wait? There are TWO versions of the BEB?? If they are using the two volume format, why call it the four volume one at the same time??? This makes no sense to me, so it was throwing me for a loop. That made it look like a tagging error (or whatever it is called when volume numbers are incorrectly tagged). Where would have I been able to find that information. It would have been nice if that had been made explicitly clear (if it was, I have NO idea where that info was or is located).

Is the NIDOTTE and the NIDNTT older resources? I ask because I find it frustrating that I have to add the article author and the article title to the Bibliography EVERY SINGLE TIME.

I'd love to see a team created just to go through older resources and update the tagging in them. If I had the time and money, I'd be involved in that project. And that would be to add tagging for all articles in all older resources, add page numbers to every resource that is missing it, add volume numbers to the resources missing volume numbers, etc. My primary issues are 1)too much debt not enough income (for now anyway), 2) not enough time (at this point, especially since I want to research to write books, and eventually [when enough money is available] become fluent in a few modern languages, get a couple of masters, and write some more), and 3) I don't want to leave Iowa for work. So, that poses problems....plus, Logos might not want outsiders volunteering to spearhead such a major project that adding tags to and retagging resources would be.

Mark Barnes

If they are using the two volume format, why call it the four volume one at the same time?

I can only presume that the marketing guys weren't speaking with the book production guys.

Is the NIDOTTE and the NIDNTT older resources? I ask because I find it frustrating that I have to add the article author and the article title to the Bibliography EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Yes. They've been around for three and a half years (released April 7, 2010). If memory serves me right, article citation support began to be added less than two years ago.

I'd love to see a team created just to go through older resources and update the tagging in them.

So would we all. It happened to the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary,but Logos have said it's cost-prohibitive to do it for all, or even most resources. Crowd-sourcing has been suggested many times, but in fairness to Logos, they'd have to invest very heavily in building the tools/QA to handle that, with no guarantees the project would be successful. They have recently begun using crowd-sourcing to translate Logos software into other languages, using third-party tools. Perhaps that experiment might encourage them to build their own crowd-sourcing tools.