Will the new Dell Venue 8.1 Windows Tablets run Logos?
With 2 GB of ram, not very well. Very slowly.
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Thanks for replying Michael. Shucks!
There will be a Dell Venue 11 Pro that will have up to 8 GB of Ram and up to 256 GB of SSD drive. That should be able to run Logos quite well.
http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/corporate/secure/en/Documents/dell-venue-11pro-brochure.pdf
Reimar Vetne: There will be a Dell Venue 11 Pro that will have up to 8 GB of Ram and up to 256 GB of SSD drive. That should be able to run Logos quite well. http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/corporate/secure/en/Documents/dell-venue-11pro-brochure.pdf
I'm afraid that's going to be priced out of my reach.
Wiki Links: Enabling Logging / Detailed Search Help - MacBook Pro (2014), ThinkPad E570
The Dell XPS 11 looks nice as well. It is another take on the Lenovo Yoga 11S. I wonder if they will come out with a 13" version to take on the Yoga Pro?
http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/19/campaigns/xps-11
Reimar Vetne:There will be a Dell Venue 11 Pro that will have up to 8 GB of Ram and up to 256 GB of SSD drive. That should be able to run Logos quite well. http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/corporate/secure/en/Documents/dell-venue-11pro-brochure.pdf
I am with Todd. Please someone make an affordable Surface Pro 2 competitor we can all enjoy Logos on.
Heavy sigh,.
JoshInRI:I am with Todd. Please someone make an affordable Surface Pro 2 competitor we can all enjoy Logos on. Heavy sigh,.
We all agree with that.
However, to run Logos 5 well a tablet will need 8 GB Ram, a strong processor, preferably a quad i5 or i7, and at least a 256 GB SSD hard drive. All that does not come cheaply. There may be a bargain tablet that will run Logos 5, but the question is how well.
I would expect Dells Venue pro 11 will be a little cheaper that the Surface Pro 2, but I doubt it will be much cheaper.
And even with the tablet that can run Logos, don't forget Logos 5 was not written for a touch screen, but a keyboard. That will be a factor to consider. Logos needs some modifications to make it more tablet friendly.
It is a couple of pounds heavier, but I wonder it the Dell XPS 12 convertible might not be a better solution right now.
I think Jesus will come back before we get a useable affordable Logos 5 machine that is more than a reader.
Still too expensive with not enough ram to run L5 properly.
JoshInRI:Still too expensive with not enough ram to run L5 properly.
Josh,
It is a bit confusing because the thread has discussed two tablets: the Dell Venue 8 and Dell Venue 11 pro. I agree that the Venue 8 does not have enough RAM to run Logos well. But the Venue 11 pro can have 8 GB of RAM. It also has an new quad 4 processor. I believe that is more than enough to run Logos.
Expensive? That sounds like your mean the Venue 11 pro - Yes, but it is cheaper than its equally equipped competitors like Surface pro 2, and not much more than an equally equipped laptop. There is no such thing as a cheap machine with 8 GB of RAM, a quad 4 i5 processor, and a SSD 256 GB HD. The Venue 11 with these specs will not be out until about the first of December. Less powerful versions are for sale now. But if running Logos is the reason for buying, it is better to wait a few weeks.
But the Dell Venue 11 should have everything it needs to run Logos 5, and be not much more expensive an equally equipped laptop. And there are other tablets out there than can run Logos as fast as any laptop right now. But none inexpensively.
Thanks Mr. Weber. My curiosity is peaked. Keep posting - especially on the day you return it.
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Please let us know how it works with a good stylus and cover/case. I pray its a blessing for you.
Waiting expectantly and hoping for us all.
Very interesting. Thanks for the report!
Michael Weber:Just got the Dell Venue 8 Pro. In my opinion, Logos 5 runs acceptable. Takes about 3-5 seconds to open a resource from my library. Around 10-12 seconds to run a search. Touch scrolling is slightly laggy but acceptable - you'll want to go in portrait mode. Voice reading is great. Indexer is pegging my CPU right now but somehow it's still responsive. RAM is at 1.3 of 1.9GB used - not paging yet. Bay Trail is way better than previous Atom processors. I confirmed this with a Windows 8 App, Excel and PowerPivot as well (I'm a developer). It's not nearly as fast as my Surface Pro but for a reader, it's just fine. Now I'm certain that battery will go down the tube if the indexer is running and there's no telling how long it will run. I have the Logos Resource files stored on a microSDHC which is much faster than when I tried it over a year ago. (up to 30MB/s). I bought the 32GB Venue Pro but there's a 64GB available. I'm certain the indexer would run faster. You cannot charge this on your desktop or laptop which is a little disappointing. It requires a 10W USB charger. I also bought an Asus T100 for my wife for $389. I'm sure the experience would be the same as the CPU and RAM are the same. I need to give it more time. I have about a 12GB resource library and I'm crossing my fingers the indexer can get through it on an SD card in my lifetime. "Preparing your library" took about an hour. However, I'm more than pleased with the responsiveness even while resources are pegged. I'm not sure if Logos does a full indexing after every update. If it does, that my hurt a little as it seems the devs release about every other week. Oh it's soooo lite however. A much better companion to my work-horse laptop than the Surface Pro. I've come to the realization that even on a 10.1 or 12" screen you are not going to be productive. It's been a dream to have the Window Logos desktop app on something portable. It completely blows away iOS. Folks, even if I had more RAM I'm not certain I'd get better performance. It's the CPU. i5s and Haswells work extremely well with Logos. When it comes to file I/O, CPU and disk speed is where it's at. Logos is continually loading your resources from GBs of file into memory and writing to the index. Regardless - pleasantly surprised so far. Definitely will be using it in Church. I don't have a stylus yet but that's the next step. Under screen resolution, you'll want to manually enlarge text to 125% right off the bat. Desktop mode is tiny.
Thanks for being so thorough. I am now even more discouraged.