Vyrso Books Converted to Logos Books

Ray from Faithlife
Ray from Faithlife Member Posts: 460 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

We have a standing promise to Vyrso customers that, if we convert any Vyrso title to a Logos resource, they will get the new, more extensively tagged edition for free.

To that end, we just completed a huge list of unlocks—resources that had been converted from Vyrso to Logos.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that a book or two may have fallen between the cracks. If you notice that you own a Vyrso book that is now available in Logos, and we neglected to unlock it for you, email customerservice[at]logos[dot]com, and we'll get it taken care of.

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  • William Gabriel
    William Gabriel Member Posts: 1,091 ✭✭

    Sweet, thanks for the update. Any chance you could post the list of books that were just converted?

  • Ray from Faithlife
    Ray from Faithlife Member Posts: 460 ✭✭

    I'm still pulling together the full list. Here's the first round:

    The Divine Mentor

    The Irresistible Church

    Leading on Empty

    Jesus: Pure and Simple

    Untamed

    The Art of Neighboring

    The Colors of Hope

    The Faith of Leap

    Mud and the Masterpiece

    ReJesus

    Right Here, Right Now

    Rooted in Good Soil

    The Disciple-Making Church

    Jesus Christ: Disciplemaker

    The Great Emergence

    All that Jesus Asks

    How to Read the Bible in Changing Times

    Out of Context

    The Peacemaker

    Resolving Everyday Conflict

    Maximize

    Generosity Ladder

    Greatness Principle

    Ignite

    Connect

    Revolve

    Mentoring Leaders

    Replenish

    Leaders That Last

    Organic Leadership

    Overcoming the Dark Side of Leadership

    Leadership That Works

    The Conviction to Lead

    10 Power Principles for Christian Service

    50 People Every Christian Should Know

    The Bumps Are What You Climb On

    C is for Christmas

    On Being a Leader for God

    On Being a Servant of God

    On Earth as It Is in Heaven

    Real Worship

    The Economy of Desire

    How to Preach without Notes

    Preaching: The Art of Narrative Exposition

    Preaching as Worship

    Preaching to a Post-Everything World

    Preaching to A Postmodern World

    The Shape of Preaching

    The Quick-Reference Guide to Counseling on Money, Finances & Relationships

    When God Goes to Starbucks

    Creation Untamed

    Getting the Old Testament

    Pastoral Ministry according to Paul

    Are You the One Who Is to Come?

    Recovering Jesus

    Exploring the Origins of the Bible

    Reframing Theology and Film

    God in the Gallery

    The Space Between

    A Matrix of Meanings

    Reviewing Leadership

    Hip-Hop Redemption

    Mission in the Old Testament

    Reading the Old Testament with the Ancient Church

    Turning Points

    God in Dispute

    A World of Difference

    The Cell’s Design

    Evidence for God

    Creating Life in the Lab

    Hidden Treasures in the Book of Job

    More Than a Theory

    The Mind and the Machine

    Relativism

    Is God a Moral Monster?

    How Do You Know You're Not Wrong?

    That’s Just Your Interpretation

    True for You, But Not for Me

    The Changing Face of World Missions

    A Case for Historic Premillenialism

    Creator Spirit: The Holy Spirit and the Art of Becoming Human

    God’s Many-Splendored Image: Theological Anthropology for Christian Formation

    What Does the Lord Require?

    The Priority of Christ

    Return to Rome

    From Eternity to Here

    Finding Organic Church

    On God's Side: What Religion Forgets and Politics Hasn't Learned about Serving the Common Good

    A Public Faith

    Signs of the Spirit: An Interpretation of Jonathan Edwards's Religious Affections

    More Precious Than Gold: 50 Daily Meditations on the Psalms

    The Hope of Glory: 100 Daily Meditations on Colossians

    A Sincere and Pure Devotion to Christ: 100 Daily Meditations on 2 Corinthians: vol. 1, 2 Corinthians 1–6

    A Sincere and Pure Devotion to Christ: 100 Daily Meditations on 2 Corinthians: vol. 2, 2 Corinthians 7–13

    God Is Faithful: A Daily Invitation into the Father Heart of God

    The Man of Sin

    Unlocking the Last Days: A Guide to the Book of Revelation and the End Times

    RD3

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  • Ray from Faithlife
    Ray from Faithlife Member Posts: 460 ✭✭

    Also,

    You Lost Me: Why Young Christians Are Leaving Church . . . and Rethinking Faith

    unChristian: What a New Generation Really Thinks about Christianity . . . and Why It Matters

    He Who Gives Life: The Doctrine of the Holy Spirit

    Reasons We Believe: 50 Lines of Evidence That Confirm the Christian Faith

    Reasons for Faith: Making a Case for the Christian Faith

    Stand: A Call for the Endurance of the Saints

    Suffering and the Sovereignty of God

    The Power of Words and the Wonder of God

    Finish the Mission: Bringing the Gospel to the Unreached and Unengaged

    Leading Small Groups with Purpose: Everything You Need to Lead a Healthy Group

    Small Groups with Purpose: How to Create Healthy Communities

    RD3

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    RayDeck3 said:

    we just completed a huge list of unlocks

    When do you anticipate this being pushed?

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  • William Gabriel
    William Gabriel Member Posts: 1,091 ✭✭

    Ray, thanks again.

    Quick question, is the Suffering and the Sovereignty of God the J.I. Packer volume? I cannot seem to find it in either Vyrso.com or Logos.com. Is that because it's in the transition, or is it because I'm looking for the wrong title?

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    RayDeck3 said:

    we just completed a huge list of unlocks

    When do you anticipate this being pushed?

    I already received a conversion from that list on Saturday (He Who Gives Life: The Doctrine of the Holy Spirit).   It wasn't until this post that I understood why the book was downloaded.

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  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    Quick question, is the Suffering and the Sovereignty of God the J.I. Packer volume? I cannot seem to find it in either Vyrso.com or Logos.com. Is that because it's in the transition, or is it because I'm looking for the wrong title?

    I think it's probably this one:

    https://www.logos.com/product/9018/why-do-i-suffer-suffering-and-the-sovereignty-of-god

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  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,604

    RayDeck3 said:

    The Bumps Are What You Climb On

    When these resources are unlocked, will the edition change. My Library still shows this resource as an ebook.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RayDeck3 said:

    You Lost Me: Why Young Christians Are Leaving Church . . . and Rethinking Faith  [July 18, 2013]

    unChristian: What a New Generation Really Thinks about Christianity . . . and Why It Matters  [July 18, 2013]

    Leading Small Groups with Purpose: Everything You Need to Lead a Healthy Group  [July 2, 2013]

    Small Groups with Purpose: How to Create Healthy Communities  [July 2, 2013]

    These ones you mentioned do not appear to be newly converted from Vyrso to Logos. I had them as Logos editions in my Library already, updated last on the dates indicated.

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,161

    Ray, all your work to convert these Vyrso books at no cost is much appreciated.

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  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭

    I'm assuming there WONT be any price increase on this type of Vyrso books..

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,847 ✭✭✭

    So, does that mean these books will no longer be available in Vyrso, just logos? And...where is the book: "How to Preach Without Notes" I don't see it anywhere and the only one I see in Logos is part of an expensive Baker bundle.  Help locating it, please!

    DAL

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,161

    mike said:

    I'm assuming there WONT be any price increase on this type of Vyrso books..

    From what I understand the books will no longer be offered in Vyrso format since they now have Logos tagging.

    Edit: and as such will probably cost more

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  • Jacob Hantla
    Jacob Hantla MVP Posts: 3,877

    I love this policy...and Logos ends up benefiting too. Cause I end up buying Vyrso editions of books that I anticipate will be Logos versions someday basically as a "pre-pub" that I get to read in the meantime. 

    Thank you

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  • Lee
    Lee Member Posts: 1,148 ✭✭

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    mike said:

    I'm assuming there WONT be any price increase on this type of Vyrso books..

    The point of this thread is that these resources have been converted to Logos editions and are therefore no longer being sold in Vyrso at all. 

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  • ChelseaFC
    ChelseaFC Member Posts: 730 ✭✭

    DAL said:

    So, does that mean these books will no longer be available in Vyrso, just logos? And...where is the book: "How to Preach Without Notes" I don't see it anywhere and the only one I see in Logos is part of an expensive Baker bundle.  Help locating it, please!

    DAL

    DAL,

       They pulled it from Vyrso when it was first put in the bundle awhile back. If I recall correct, it happened very quickly..All the best.

    ChelseaFC

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    mike said:

    I'm assuming there WONT be any price increase on this type of Vyrso books..

    Wrong assumption. Such resources will be more expensive as Logos editions than they were as Vyrso books, because it costs more for Logos to do all the tagging. As Alabama pointed out, they will no longer be available as Vyrso books now that they've been converted to Logos editions.

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,847 ✭✭✭

    ChelseaFC said:

    DAL said:

    So, does that mean these books will no longer be available in Vyrso, just logos? And...where is the book: "How to Preach Without Notes" I don't see it anywhere and the only one I see in Logos is part of an expensive Baker bundle.  Help locating it, please!

    DAL

    DAL,

       They pulled it from Vyrso when it was first put in the bundle awhile back. If I recall correct, it happened very quickly..All the best.

    ChelseaFC

    Thanks ChelseaFC!

  • JC54
    JC54 Member Posts: 311 ✭✭

    I have just recieved one update by now. Is this correct? When should I expect more?

  • JC54
    JC54 Member Posts: 311 ✭✭

    *Bump* I still haven't seen updates of most of the books in the list that I own. 

    Is this correct or did something went wrong?

  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭

    Some have already mentioned that a number of the books on the list have already been upgraded prior to the release day, so I suspect yes, you have already been upgraded.

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  • JC54
    JC54 Member Posts: 311 ✭✭

    Still, I am not able to find "The art of Neighbouring", "Colors of Hope" and "Hip-Hop Redemption" in any other edition as the e-book.

  • Ray from Faithlife
    Ray from Faithlife Member Posts: 460 ✭✭

    I have just recieved one update by now. Is this correct? When should I expect more?

    I apologize for the confusion. Allow me to clarify.

    I posted a list of Vryso books that have already been added to Logos and have already been unlocked for owners. I did so because those two things did not happen at the same time. We have been converting books (from Vyrso format to Logos format), and not keeping up with the unlocking. We just batch unlocked a big block of books, but fear we might have missed some. So if you own a Vyrso book which appears now on Logos.com, but you haven't yet received the Logos edition, email me. We overlooked it, and I can take care of it for you.

    Does that make sense.

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Ray, I hope you're still subscribed to this thread, because there's a lot of fuzz on WARNING: Logos May no longer update Vyrso books! that you or someone ought to look into.

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  • Suzy
    Suzy Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    We have a standing promise to Vyrso customers that, if we convert any Vyrso title to a Logos resource, they will get the new, more extensively tagged edition for free.

    To that end, we just completed a huge list of unlocks—resources that had been converted from Vyrso to Logos.

    But I have a sneaking suspicion that a book or two may have fallen between the cracks. If you notice that you own a Vyrso book that is now available in Logos, and we neglected to unlock it for you, email customerservice[at]logos[dot]com, and we'll get it taken care of.

    I apologise (or apologize to US readers) for reviving such an old thread, but I was wondering if previously purchased Vyrso books are still being converted to Logos editions when they are available?  

    Edited to include quote

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    I was wondering if previously purchased Vyrso books are still being converted to Logos editions when they are available

    They should be. Did you have an example? 

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  • Suzy
    Suzy Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    Thank you very much JT for your reply. 

    I have a situation where a book I purchased in Vyrso is not showing as owned on Logos. I followed up with customer service and apparently it is because the one I own has a different license number from the one on the Logos website. 

    I am not too perturbed, as I still have the Vyrso (ebook) edition in my library and was just wondering for future reference if books were still being transferred now that Vyrso no longer exists. All it means is that I will have to double check my library before making any purchases.   

  • MJ. Smith
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    Sue, that explanation doesn't make sense to me ... I have dual copies of my vyrso --> logos books.

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  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,174

    Sometimes folks in customer service are not aware of the policy or promise of Vyrso books being converted into Logos books when they are available in Logos.

    Speaking from experience; and when they found out it was sorted out for me.

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523
    Sue - which book? It matters! What is the copyright info for that book?

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  • Suzy
    Suzy Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    Thanks MJ and Ted

    Does this help JT? (EDIT: Sorry for the large photos I don't seem to be able to edit the pictures to make them smaller)

    Book on the Logos Website:

    Book in my Library:

  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,239

    Sue--I'll take a look at this when I get in the office this morning. It looks to me like the same book.

  • HJ. van der Wal
    HJ. van der Wal Member Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭

    Shalom Kyle!

    Could you also take a look at the concise Whitefield biography by Dallimore: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/172866.aspx 

    I am not concerned about the promise of converting Vyrso books to Logos editions. It just does not make sense to me why the reprint edition is still being sold.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Does this help JT?

    It does, and looks like Kyle is on top of it. To clarify some things which were said earlier:

    Yes, an eBook (Vyrso or now Faithlife eBook) should be converted to a "Logos edition" if it is converted... BUT: It has to be the same book. As Kyle noted, it does look like this is the "same" book. However, the "same" to you, may not be the "same" to the publisher. Sometimes the publisher will release different editions of the same book. In that case, you would not likely receive an updated Logos edition. What is really annoying is when the different edition is simply a change in Book covers! [:S]

    Also: Previously, when a conversion happened, you would always end up with two editions of the resource in your library. That isn't always the case anymore. Sometimes the same file is converted and you end up with just one copy of the book. There are technical reasons for why this was the case in the past. 

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  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,239

    Thank you very much JT for your reply. 

    I have a situation where a book I purchased in Vyrso is not showing as owned on Logos. I followed up with customer service and apparently it is because the one I own has a different license number from the one on the Logos website. 

    I am not too perturbed, as I still have the Vyrso (ebook) edition in my library and was just wondering for future reference if books were still being transferred now that Vyrso no longer exists. All it means is that I will have to double check my library before making any purchases.   

    Sue. I unlocked the Logos Edition for you. We've tried to make the process smoother for both owners of the ebook and us but this is one of those older models where it wasn't so smooth. Let me know if you have any more questions.

  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭

    Thank you Sue, I have added Vulnerable Communion: A Theology of Disability and Hospitality to my wish list so that when it goes on sale i can grab it..

    -dan

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  • Suzy
    Suzy Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    Sue. I unlocked the Logos Edition for you. We've tried to make the process smoother for both owners of the ebook and us but this is one of those older models where it wasn't so smooth. Let me know if you have any more questions.

    Thank you very much Kyle. I am very grateful. 

    Thanks also to the others who responded. JT makes a valid observation that may account for the difference in license numbers between the books. If this is the case I am extra grateful for the book update.  

    I appreciate that Logos is still updating Vyrso books as it would be at a cost to themselves. Thank you Logos.  

  • Suzy
    Suzy Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    Thank you Sue, I have added Vulnerable Communion: A Theology of Disability and Hospitality to my wish list so that when it goes on sale i can grab it..

    -dan

    I don't think you will regret it. It is a book that I am glad to have in my library and is one of those books that was a welcome surprise packet. I refer to it regularly.  It is a combination of personal insight and deep theological reflection. 

  • Suzy
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