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DMB | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Feb 3 2014 8:21 AM

I'm (smilingly) very confident this suggestion will fall on deaf ears (since it's just the opposite of the app re-badging efforts currently in vogue).

Yesterday I was battling the two panels on my Bible! app. I wanted the top one to be my reading, and the bottom one to be my research-y stuff.  Unfortunately the bottom one is hard to manage (and is also hard to manage in the other Bible software competitors too).  

So I thought I'd download FaithLife, and operate with another 'window'.  I already have Noet and Vyrso occupied with my journals, etc. But Faithlife was altogether structured differently (and validly so given its objectives).

Here's my suggestion: hide a switch somewhere (in Logos5?, iOS settings?, etc) that would allow using the Logos apps relative to one of Logos' app standards (eg Bible!, Vyrso, Noet, Faithlife, etc). That way you could spread your study out on more panels. Logos5 already accomodates the idea (new in L4), and it's a good one.

Currently (and I really hate to say this), but the iOS apps are similar to Libronix (ah, so heavenly a piece of well-written software!!). Everything has to fit on one window, like 10 people in a VW bug.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 3 2014 8:37 AM

Hi Denise

I'm intrigued - can you expand a little please?

Denise:
Yesterday I was battling the two panels on my Bible! app. I wanted the top one to be my reading, and the bottom one to be my research-y stuff.  Unfortunately the bottom one is hard to manage (and is also hard to manage in the other Bible software competitors too).  

In what way is the bottom one hard to manage? Any more so that the top one?

As far as I can see the top / bottom panels work effectively in the same way

Denise:
Here's my suggestion: hide a switch somewhere (in Logos5?, iOS settings?, etc) that would allow using the Logos apps relative to one of Logos' app standards (eg Bible!, Vyrso, Noet, Faithlife, etc).

I don't understand what you mean when you talk about using the Logos apps relative to one of the app standards.

Do you mean - for example - using the Bible! app as though it were the Faithlife app?

Thanks, Graham 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 3 2014 9:08 AM

Hi Graham. First, I honestly don't expect the iOS guys (more accurately 'mobile' guys) to pursue this, and frankly I'm hoping their FaithLife app relative to congregations will be their first priority. Shared Bible study I think is the criticality in churches.  Logos5 and individual study is good, but shared study helps those not so talented.

But my 'motive' is looking down the road maybe 2-3 years.  I'd like to move to a simpler world. L5 is certainly the cat's meow. But iOS is more personally efficient, especially with some minor 'tweaks'.

Relative to the second panel, most Bible apps I've seen, it's difficult to see which panel you're 'talking to' when changing resources, etc. If you use only one app, I suppose one could get the feel. But I use many.  Yesterday, I downloaded the OliveTree update (which seeks to match Logos' interlinears ... obviously George needs a 'double' over at OT). But managing the 2nd panel there too requires remembering the tricks.  Laridian offers multiple approaches (good), but a very confusing setup panel.

Frankly, 'leaving' a Bible! setup in-place (similar to Logos5 layout) and opening another Logos app for two more books seems far easier to manage (especially since they would represent a 'layout' as well).

One of Logos' competitive advantages is having multiple apps with minor differences (especially Noet vs Vyrso). It just seemed like another notch on Logos' feature-list to be able to use its apps almost interchangably (with a switch, thus allowing a sizable Logos study platform for the future).

Logos wants to expand its mobile presence; using its strengths would be a good fit.  I still think Logos hasn't even remotely come close to its potential relative to pasters and church-members, and also professors and students.  It's a wide-open future for Logos.

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 3 2014 9:45 AM

Hope this is not hijacking your thread, Denise.

I think for those of us trying to use Logos' multiple mobile apps for different "purposes," the simpler and more elegant solution is to allow for multiple "tabs" on the two half windows in the app. 

Currently many of us use one app (really one layout) for one purpose and another app for another purpose.  And because each app is its own sandbox, I frequently forget which books I have downloaded into which app.  Very confusing experience.

Anyone else for multiple tabs in the mobile apps?

In the long run, I would suggest Logos rethink the "desktop first, mobile second" strategy.  More and more people are spending more and more time on their mobile devices than on their desktop/laptop devices. I know I'm one of them.  It may be time to start exploring the possibility of porting more and more of the desktop capabilities on to the mobile apps.

Kind of like how Apple started the iPhones and iPads tethered to iTunes on the desktop, and eventually cut the cord and set them free (talking directly to the "cloud").  I'm suggesting that Logos should do the same.  Already, the Vyrso, Faithlife, Verbum brands are mobile-only.

I hope someone from Logos is seeing this thread.

Peter

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 3 2014 10:09 AM

A forum is just that .... multiple minds.  Don't mind the alternative thoughts at all. 

Tabs would also be a good solution (and more similar to other readers too).

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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