In e-book format. Pre-order now from Vyrso for $20.64. Release date 15th March.
https://vyrso.com/product/40385/the-moody-bible-commentary
Wow!
Thanks for telling us (just canceled the Amazon pre-Pub and pre-ordered from Vyrso)!
Thanks from me too.
Hopefully one day this will be upgraded to a Logos resource if Logos and Moody get their act together!
Thanks from bringing this to our attention. I would love to have this in my library.
The title hooked me and I know what you mean but more accurately it should read "Moody Bible Commentary coming to Vyrso".
I did some poking around to see how big this commentary is and found this sample PDF from it of the book of Daniel and Romans - http://fountainhead.cloudapp.net/~cover/mbc/MBC_Daniel_Romans.pdf . I found it helpful as it give a good idea of the layout. I also found out that this is a massive resource at 2140 pages which makes it a great buy for the money.
Wow! Thanks for telling us (just canceled the Amazon pre-Pub and pre-ordered from Vyrso)!
...and saved a few pennies in the process. [;)]
Yep [:)]
Thanks - cancelled my Barnes & Noble order. Cheaper with Vyrso than with my wife's employee discount. [:D]
Slightly off-topic.
Is this going to be a Moody-not-on-Logos thing?
Why would the Moody Bible Commentary and the New Moody Atlas of the Bible be published under Vyrso?
I'm glad that they are available at all [:)] (just ordered MBC) but shouldn't such reference works come under the full Logos treatment?
The licensing agreements for "Logos" and "Vyrso" are different. Since Logos has little "skin in the game" with the automatically converted Vyrso editions, the contracts are more straight forward. Moody titles were never withdrawn from Vyrso... Only "logos editions" were.
Slightly off-topic. Is this going to be a Moody-not-on-Logos thing? Why would the Moody Bible Commentary and the New Moody Atlas of the Bible be published under Vyrso? I'm glad that they are available at all (just ordered MBC) but shouldn't such reference works come under the full Logos treatment?
I'm glad that they are available at all (just ordered MBC) but shouldn't such reference works come under the full Logos treatment?
in an ideal world - yes they would be in full Logos format , but right now that isn't going to happen so happy to be get this title in my Logos library via the back door so to speak. Will also pick up the Atlas too as I had considered it in another format but decided against it.
If and when Logos and Moody get back together they will likely republish these as Logos editions. So far Logos has not charged owners of Vyrso editions anything to upgrade them to Logos editions. Can't know for sure if they could do that for these if and when that happens, but undoubtedly a full Logos version would cost more.
Well, my heart skipped a beat, but I went and ordered the New Moody Atlas as well.
I've taken the plunge on the Atlas too. [:o]
Now that I have the Atlas, I'm experiencing a crash I never got before. Report filed.
As reported earlier, I am not seeing similar problems on a similarly configured machine with this resource.
what kind of machine did the resource have a problem on, mac or windows?
SSD or none
See this thread:
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/81331.aspx
In e-book format. Pre-order now from Vyrso for $20.64. Release date 15th March. https://vyrso.com/product/40385/the-moody-bible-commentary
Does this mean that we will have a chance to have some "moody" books back on logos?
In e-book format. Pre-order now from Vyrso for $20.64. Release date 15th March. https://vyrso.com/product/40385/the-moody-bible-commentary Does this mean that we will have a chance to have some "moody" books back on logos?
Since Vyrso books are added to your Logos library, the answer is yes. Whatever "Moody" books are [made] available in Vyrso can be used in Logos. I hope we get the Moody Handbook of Theology 2nd Edition in Vyrso sometime soon. It'd be great to have it, even if it's not tagged that much as a Logos book is.
DAL
The Moody books available in Vyrso never went away. Only the "Logos" ones did. So the issue probably has to do with the licensing structure that Logos has for their main "Logos" line of resources. Moody gets a larger percentage return on the Vyrso books (because Logos provides very little support for those resources) than the Logos ones, which means Moody has a different attitude towards Vyrso than "Logos".
So, I wouldn't consider that any new Vyrso books from Moody would indicate anything has changed.
For clarification: Moody titles were never pulled from Vyrso. Books that were previously "Logos Editions" remain unavailable. These are new resources, which are being brought into Vyrso, rather than "Logos Editions."
Don't think we can say that - nothing has changed. Vyrso never cut their relationship with Moody, only LOGOS.
What this may mean is that if LOGOS does pick up Moody books (a BIG if), we would most likely get these books for their Vyrso price (which we will have already paid) rather than the higher LOGOS price. Hey, no guarantees, I do not work for LOGOS - just modeling their previous practice.
In the meantime, the indexing of Vyrso books is not as complete as one might expect for a LOGOS book - for example, the Bible index in the back of the "Moody Atlas of the Bible" all link to the book of Acts, rather than to the correct scripture or to references within the book to Bible reference.
My question was about having some books of the "moody publisher" back to Logos software and not only in vyrso
Some of you answered the question anyway already.
I would like to see some (old and new) of the "moody" titles back to Logos. But why not on vyrso if they want so (even if I would prefer them on Logos)
As I said, moody titles were never pulled from Vyrso, but all moody titles were pulled from Logos. We are unlikely to see the Logos edition resources back until an agreement can be reached with moody to do so. Remember: "logos edition" resources are "value added." There is a great cost to Logos to create those editions. Vyrso titles are bare bones, and logos incurs a much smaller investment in them. There is no benefit for Logos to sell the resources they have already converted in the Vyrso store.
I don't want to rain on the parade, but I predict you're all going to be disappointed with this. Remember, Vyrso books are all monographs, and won't have Bible milestones. This Vyrso commentary won't integrate with your Passage Guide, etc., and navigation is likely to be problematic. I wouldn't be surprised if this was pulled from sale before it's published (unless Logos wants to use all the emails of complaint to persuade Moody that the extra tagging offered in Logos editions is worth the investment!).
I don't want to rain on the parade, but I predict you're all going to be disappointed with this. Remember, Vyrso books are all monographs, and won't have Bible milestones. This Vyrso commentary won't integrate with your Passage Guide, etc., and navigation is likely to be problematic.
Very good point(s).
I don't want to rain on the parade, but I predict you're all going to be disappointed with this.
Good reminders... but a counterpoint. I am not going to be any more "disappointed" with the Vyrso edition than I would with a Kindle one. To the contrary, I would much rather have the book in Vyrso "as is." Furthermore, if/when Moody & Logos reach an agreement, and this resource migrates to being a "Logos edition," I will receive a free upgrade. Otherwise, I fully agree with you.
I don't want to rain on the parade, but I predict you're all going to be disappointed with this. Good reminders... but a counterpoint. I am not going to be any more "disappointed" with the Vyrso edition than I would with a Kindle one. To the contrary, I would much rather have the book in Vyrso "as is." Furthermore, if/when Moody & Logos reach an agreement, and this resource migrates to being a "Logos edition," I will receive a free upgrade. Otherwise, I fully agree with you.
Great overall summaries by both of you. [Y]
Hello Mark
Is there any way of editing PB's to integrate with Logos or to input Bible milestones before we create the PB.
I know we can add bible references but, can more be done?
I had no expectation of it working like a full Logos commentary so no disappointment from me. Of course I would much prefer it as a full logos resources, but that is not possible right now. I'd much rather have it in Logos as an e-book than as Kindle e-book.
Hello Mark Is there any way of editing PB's to integrate with Logos or to input Bible milestones before we create the PB. I know we can add bible references but, can more be done?
Yes this can be done. I do it with PBB's I make. It would be possible to take the text from the Vyrso edition and create you own 'improved' version over what Vyrso offers. I encourage people to try doing it one day - for the simple reason of them learning to appreciate why Logos resources cost more than a kindle e-book. Converting the Moody Bible Commentary though would be a massive task if you were to do it well.
Hello Mark Is there any way of editing PB's to integrate with Logos or to input Bible milestones before we create the PB. I know we can add bible references but, can more be done? Yes this can be done. I do it with PBB's I make. It would be possible to take the text from the Vyrso edition and create you own 'improved' version over what Vyrso offers. I encourage people to try doing it one day - for the simple reason of them learning to appreciate why Logos resources cost more than a kindle e-book. Converting the Moody Bible Commentary though would be a massive task if you were to do it well.
[Y]
I'd much rather have it in Logos as an e-book than as Kindle e-book.
My goal is to do this via scripting. I don't think it will be terribly difficult. docx files are just zipped xml files, and if the formatting is consistent throughout the resources, it wouldn't be unreasonable to add in this tagging via a program. If I succeed, I'll publish the code with instructions on how to take your vyrso or kindle version of this resources and make it a tagged PB.
.... If I succeed, I'll publish the code with instructions on how to take your vyrso or kindle version of this resources and make it a tagged PB.
That, sir, would be a HUGE blessing!
True, but how hard is it to open a Vyrso commentary to the passage you are studying? This issue seems greatly exaggerated to me. It will be far more valuable than a paper version because you can at least search it.
[Y] Not hard at all Michael.
Ok as far as making any resource better by tagging a PB.
How is this done, do we have a guide for the way this is done or what we can do?
I am not only talking about the Vyrso version only but also general books we want to add as a PB.
Thanks
Try this link to the Logos Wiki Personal Books
Ok as far as making any resource better by tagging a PB. How is this done, do we have a guide for the way this is done or what we can do? I am not only talking about the Vyrso version only but also general books we want to add as a PB. Thanks
Lee, I believe the only option you'd have here is to export the commentary in RTF (in several chunks due to the restrictions on how many pages you can export at a time) and combine all those chunks of RTF in a single Word .docx file, and follow the tagging instructions in the link Jack posted above. This is likely to be a huge project to do the whole volume - and do satisfy yourself of copyright, etc. laws local to where you live! [:)]
Thanks Jack & Paul-C
I did look at the wiki and watched videos, I had not used notes before. I have started adding some to the resource and it is ok with that.
I just pre-ordered this and am very hopeful Logos will be able to get it as well. I was going to order it in print, but I have so many physical issues with bound books; that makes my study via Logos so precious to me.
but I have so many physical issues with bound books
I'm assuming that one of them is the lack of space. Are there others?
Question: I had a "Moody Bible Commentary OT and NT" in Spanish (a translation from English obviously) and the OT was edited by Charles F. Pfeiffer and the NT by Everette F. Harrison. Is this "New" Moody Bible Commentary like the newer edition of these old works or is it a brand new commentary all together?
Thanks!
Edit: Hmmm...when I type key words to look for the English version of the commentary I'm telling you about it pulls out Wycliff OT and NT instead of Moody OT and NT. I guess they translated the Wycliff English version by Pfeiffer and Harrison and renamed it "Moody" in Spanish for some unknown reason.
Well since Wycliff is a famous early translator of the Bible into English, keeping the name would have much less meaning. It is interesting that 50 y.o. English works are being translated to Spanish rather than more modern works (I recently notice the Original Beacon Bible Commentary was translated to spanish too).
-Dan
This commentary was translated in 1965 As the Comentario Biblico Moody. This is the date for the New Testament and the Old Testament was likely a couple of years later.
I see this resource is now on PrePub. Glad I got in in vyrso as its almost double in price now.
Hi Travis
I am sure that I read somewhere if you own a Vyrso book and Faithlife later to decide to publish it as a proper fully functioning Logos book, you will get the upgrade for free!
Can someone from Faithlife confirm this?
P A
Its greyed out for me, so I will get it upgraded..
I'm just shocked that it went from $20 on Prepub on vyrso to almost $40 on prepub on logos for the "value added" magic. Seems like price gouging to me.