Classic Studies on Christology: An appreciation and concern

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Stephen Steele | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Mar 26 2014 8:05 AM

Really excited by the forthcoming Classic Studies on Christology which has just arrived in CP. It's worth it for Messiah the Prince by William Symington alone - one of the classic works on the Mediatorial reign of Jesus Christ. A few other works by Symington are either already available or in CP, which is great, but this is what he's best known for.

One correction to the product page: He was Professor of Theology at the Reformed Presbyterian Theological Hall - not in the Free Church. As it's put in the memoir which is prefixed to the book:

'When sometimes asked why he, who sympathised with it so enthusiastically, did not join the Free Church, he would say, "With a great sum you have purchased this freedom, but we were free-born," '

(For more on Symington, Roy Blackwood and Michael LeFebvre a fantasic great book, Penman of the Scottish Coveanters, published by RHB in 2009, but seems to be out of print already! Would be great to have it in Logos!)

One concern though. Historically Reformed Christians have held that images of Christ are a breach of the second commandment. Eg Larger Catechism # 109:

"The sins forbidden in the second commandment are....the making any representation of God, of all or of any of the three persons, either inwardly in our mind, or outwardly in any kind of image or likeness of any creature whatsoever; (Deut. 4:15–19, Acts 17:29, Rom. 1:21–23,25)".

This isn't the place to get into a debate over whether that is right or not, but I for one would appreciate if the artwork was changed. I appreciate it must be hard to keep coming up with new images for all these classic studies, but many of the authors of these works would also raise their concerns!

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 26 2014 8:18 AM

Interested bidders should get in quick to ensure a sensible bidding level is established!

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 26 2014 8:48 AM

Stephen Steele:
This isn't the place to get into a debate over whether that is right or not, but I for one would appreciate if the artwork was changed. I appreciate it must be hard to keep coming up with new images for all these classic studies, but many of the authors of these works would also raise their concerns!

To raise the issue and then muzzle any contrary responses is .asking a bit much. While I agree with you loosely on the creation of imagery and iconography of God, I would hate to see a demand to censor all Logos resources of any such images.

 In this specific resource it seems reasonable to change the images. I join your request.

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Christian Locatell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 26 2014 12:22 PM

Yeah, you guys are right. We are changing the cover art now. It should be updated soon. Thanks.

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Tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 26 2014 1:22 PM

Christian Locatell:
We are changing the cover art now.

Thank you. Yes

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Stephen Steele | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 26 2014 2:56 PM

Super.Tramp:

To raise the issue and then muzzle any contrary responses is .asking a bit much.

To clarify, I meant debating the rightness of wrongness of images of Jesus in general - not whether Logos should use them.
Just thought that however much we debate it, it's not going to change what many Reformed writers/standards have held for hundreds of years, and there will always be people who won't agree with it no matter what is said on here.

Christian Locatell:

Yeah, you guys are right. We are changing the cover art now. It should be updated soon. Thanks.

Thanks Christian, much appreciated.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 26 2014 3:12 PM

Super.Tramp:

Stephen Steele:
This isn't the place to get into a debate over whether that is right or not, but I for one would appreciate if the artwork was changed. I appreciate it must be hard to keep coming up with new images for all these classic studies, but many of the authors of these works would also raise their concerns!

To raise the issue and then muzzle any contrary responses is .asking a bit much. While I agree with you loosely on the creation of imagery and iconography of God, I would hate to see a demand to censor all Logos resources of any such images.

I don't think he was intending to muzzle contrary responses to his suggestion that the artwork be changed. He was only saying we shouldn't get into a discussion here about whether those Historically Reformed authors were wrong in their theology of rejecting all visual depictions of Christ. Given that they did reject them, however, regardless of whether we agree with them, it is reasonable to respect what would likely have been their wishes for the covers of their books.

EDIT: I see that while I was writing this up, the rest of the thread has resolved the issue.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 26 2014 3:34 PM

Stephen Steele:
Really excited by the forthcoming Classic Studies on Christology which has just arrived in CP.

Stephen,  I appreciate your bringing attention to this collection and to the cover art issue.  I have entered my bid at $30.

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Andy | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 27 2014 12:43 AM

Super.Tramp:
Stephen,  I appreciate your bringing attention to this collection and to the cover art issue.  

Same here. I somehow missed this collection, but have now placed my bid. It contains a number of very interesting resources. Thank you for highlighting this.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 15 2014 3:12 AM

Rosie Perera:
it is reasonable to respect what would likely have been their wishes for the covers of their books.

Which makes me wonder what the rabbi would have thought about having a cross on the cover of his book? He'd probably have less of a problem with an image of Jesus.

And I guess the Jesuit doesn't get to be consulted either. 

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