Anchor Yale Bible is Broken Up!!

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elnwood | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 6 2014 4:32 PM

Schumitinu:

Can someone give me a list of the Anchor Yale Volumes that have been written by Jewish scholars? Somebody that owns the whole set as well as the denomination tags could probably very easily compile such a list for me. Thank you!

E. A. Speiser wrote the Genesis volume.

Moshe Greenberg wrote two of the Ezekiel volumes.

Jacob Milgrom wrote the three Leviticus volumes and is writing the third Ezekiel volume.

Baruch Levine wrote the two Numbers volumes.

Moshe Weinfeld wrote the first Deuteronomy volume.

Mordechai Cogan wrote or co-wrote the two volumes on Kings.

Tamara Cohn Eskenazi is writing a replacement volume on Ezra-Nehemiah.

Michael V. Fox wrote the two volumes on Proverbs.

Adele Berlin wrote the Zephaniah volume.

Eric and Carol Meyers co-wrote the volumes covering Haggai and Zechariah.

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Robert Harner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 6 2014 5:59 PM

David Ames:

And thus would be useless for studying end times as the AYB declares Daniel to be a second century fake. Just saved myself $31.95.

I looked at the Exodus books because that is what we are going through now. Two volumes of around 1500 pages expounding on Exodus which the author thinks is fiction. I just saved almost $110.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 6 2014 6:04 PM

David Knoll:

Genesis Leviticus Numbers and Deuteronomy were written by Jews. 

This really isn't an issue one way or the other for scholarship, Milgrom's work on Leviticus are the only volumes I want in the OT portion of AYB. His commentaries on Leviticus are superb.

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 6 2014 6:52 PM

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i like his Ephesians, as well.

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Schumitinu | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 6 2014 6:59 PM

Thank you elnwood

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 7 2014 3:50 AM

Robert Harner:

David Ames:

And thus would be useless for studying end times as the AYB declares Daniel to be a second century fake. Just saved myself $31.95.

I looked at the Exodus books because that is what we are going through now. Two volumes of around 1500 pages expounding on Exodus which the author thinks is fiction. I just saved almost $110.

It is amazing that many of the BIG names in Biblical research do not believe that the Bible is the Word of God.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 7 2014 9:58 PM

I think one question is that If the person that Biblical researcher does not believe the Book of the Bible is the true Word of God, then what is the real value of any research he/she does with the Bible. Is it pointless to read what the person has to say? 

I'm just thinking out loud. What is your view on this?

I would have though that the Anchor Yale Bible would have used people that did Believe the books of the Bible are the true Word of God. 

What is the point of a commentary from someone that doesn't believe the truth of scripture?

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 8 2014 4:45 AM

This post is a blatant attempt to raise my post count as I have double posted it.

A Question that has been asked is:

Lee Garrison:

I think one question is that If the person that Biblical researcher does not believe the Book of the Bible is the true Word of God, then what is the real value of any research he/she does with the Bible. Is it pointless to read what the person has to say?

I'm just thinking out loud. What is your view on this?

What is the point of a commentary from someone that doesn't believe the truth of scripture?


Found at: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/82802/626277.aspx#626277  

Also there is a thread that allows us to create collections by denomination

Theology/Denomination Tags

Found at: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/82802/626277.aspx#626277  

Maybe what we need is a collection of authors that don't believe the truth of scripture?

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 8 2014 4:46 AM

What is the point of raising your post count?

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 8 2014 5:46 AM

I think we may be drifting towards ChristianDiscourse.com on this so I'll tread lightly.

Lee Garrison:
I think one question is that If the person that Biblical researcher does not believe the Book of the Bible is the true Word of God, then what is the real value of any research he/she does with the Bible. Is it pointless to read what the person has to say? 

A good question perhaps. But only maybe a bit misleading (unintentionally).

While it is true that some authors of any given book may not share your view of the inspiration of scripture, that does not negate their prowess in linguistics or history, etc.  God causes the sun to shine on the righteous as well as the unrighteous.  So there may be some in depth scholarship which renders a book by such an author as valuable on that playing field.  

But knowing the author's stance (usually stated somewhere in the opening material) does inform you of what kind of filter of your own to employ when reading and referencing the book. This is my most important point.

One example I would point to in the AYB is the Leviticus commentaries by Jacob Milgrom.  I have been studying Leviticus for a few years now, there simply are no commentaries that compare to the breadth of knowledge, insight, and yes spiritual application that Milgrom brings to the table. Granted, Milgrom does believe that Lev. is the word of God - but he also subscribes to some documentary theories I reject. More than that, he was Jewish, not Christian.  That is, he did not, as I understand, embrace Jesus as messiah.

So I open up Milgrom, filter out the documentary stuff that I've already studied and rejected, calculate for his missing Christology, and gain an enormous blessing from the book of Leviticus with Jacob Milgrom's help.

Your mileage of course may vary from author to author. But I have never yet found an author I agree completely with on everything.

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David Knoll | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 8 2014 6:32 AM

mab:

David Knoll:

Genesis Leviticus Numbers and Deuteronomy were written by Jews. 

This really isn't an issue one way or the other for scholarship, Milgrom's work on Leviticus are the only volumes I want in the OT portion of AYB. His commentaries on Leviticus are superb.

I was only replying to a question. I agree with everything you say. 

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Paolo russo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 8 2014 6:52 AM

So I open up Milgrom, filter out the documentary stuff that I've already studied and rejected, calculate for his missing Christology, and gain an enormous blessing from the book of Leviticus with Jacob Milgrom's help.

That is so funny! I have a degree in engineering, so I can imagine the calculation and re-calculation on a piece of paper, adjusting the trajectory, and ... BUM ... good theology. LOL

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 8 2014 10:48 AM

TCBlack

If my response was misleading it was not meant to be.

I was of the impression that AYB was a very high demand collection. And when I looked at this post I want to see what others users think of it.

What I was trying to ask is why would the AYB want to have any scholarship from someone that did not believe the Bible.  If in fact  Hartman, LouisDi Lella, Alexander do not believe that the book of Daniel is inspired by God.  I can not say what they believe, I don’t have any volume of AYB. I only had an interest in it because of the set being broken up which I am happy about.

David Ames said I quote  “Their introduction states that: "The book of Daniel was written as resistance literature, to strengthen and console loyal Jews of the second century BC who had to endure religious, economic, and social oppression at the hands of Antiochus I."

https://www.logos.com/product/41441/the-anchor-yale-bible-the-book-of-daniel  

And thus would be useless for studying end times as the AYB declares Daniel to be a second century fake. Just saved myself $31.95.

Michael asked which volumes we would be interested in, so I listed Daniel & Revelation as two of the volumes that I would desire if I had the money.

I am sorry if again I was misunderstood. 

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 8 2014 11:06 AM

Not misunderstood Lee. I try to give answers that benefit not only the questioner but future readers.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 8 2014 11:31 AM

I think the question of which commentaries are compatible with which of the human creeds is a valid issue.  Few of the OT or NT books propose to be from God or his Holy Spirit (though some try to identify who wrote them). Ditto the NT.  Even Jesus pointed out Moses was on his own in certain instances, and didn't view that as a biggie; just a fact of life needing recognition.

I've always thought that if Logos more clearly identified the books, they'd make a lot more money.  Most people don't collect interesting books; they read relative to their denomination.  Demanding they play russian roulette with their credit card is not immensely profitable.


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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 8 2014 11:41 AM

Lee Garrison:

What I was trying to ask is why would the AYB want to have any scholarship from someone that did not believe the Bible.  If in fact  Hartman, LouisDi Lella, Alexander do not believe that the book of Daniel is inspired by God.  I can not say what they believe, I don’t have any volume of AYB. I only had an interest in it because of the set being broken up which I am happy about.

David Ames said I quote  “Their introduction states that: "The book of Daniel was written as resistance literature, to strengthen and console loyal Jews of the second century BC who had to endure religious, economic, and social oppression at the hands of Antiochus I."

https://www.logos.com/product/41441/the-anchor-yale-bible-the-book-of-daniel  

And thus would be useless for studying end times as the AYB declares Daniel to be a second century fake. Just saved myself $31.95.

I fail to see why an introduction to a book which obviously has quite a bit of "code language" that evidently made sense to the first audience, and which compares it with many other writings from that approximate era and sees that it was common for a community under persecution two write things about how in spite of first appearances, that God is in charge after all and will set things right in the end, and to use symbolic place names and people and then concludes that the book makes a lot of sense in the 2nd century BCE is automatically "not believing the bible."  It may not be what you think it means.  They may even be wrong.  But that does not mean that they don't believe it is inspired by God...

Lee Garrison:
Michael asked which volumes we would be interested in, so I listed Daniel & Revelation as two of the volumes that I would desire if I had the money.

Just about every list I have seen would list the value of Anchor volumes would put Ford's commentary on Revelation at or near the bottom as a near waste of time and money for, uh, idiosyncratic views, lack of space given to back them up, and lack of interaction with others.  The volume on Daniel has no where near that reputation, but was never talked about really.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 8 2014 12:06 PM

Ken, you illustrate my point excellently.  You'd expect Ford's commentary on Revelation to be 'near the bottom' of a list that tries to be compatible with traditional beliefs (irrespective of creed).  On the other hand, if you're looking for jewish and Baptist threads that might have survived the Roman destruction of Palestine, Ford's commentary would be a good one to review.

Ditto on AYB's Nahum, if I remember right, is an excellent volume on music.  Most people'd be wasting their pennies. But some would want to know the details.  Product information is a good thing.


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