Lewis and Short Latin Dictionary ready but Harpers' downloads ?

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David Wilson | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Apr 12 2014 12:36 PM

Recieved the following email at 10:40pm local time last night (someone must have been working late at Bellingham perhaps):
"This is to inform you that your recent Pre-Pub order of Lewis and Short's Latin Dictionary is now
ready to be downloaded. Your credit card has been charged. "

This morning I did an "Update now" but the only resource that downloaded was "Harpers' Latin  Dictionary".

Was this a coincidental update to Harpers' and Lewis and Short is not yet ready to donwload ?
Has anyone else had their Lewis and Short download yet (Verbum 5.2a SR-1 desktop version)?

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 12 2014 12:54 PM

They are one and the same.  Harpers' is Lewis and Short:

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 12 2014 5:26 PM

Todd Phillips:
Harpers' is Lewis and Short:

This is a helpful clarification which probably has confused more than a few.

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 12 2014 8:34 PM

... which has been "revised and enlarged" now to the 1956 print edition that is available for $200+ USD from popular online retailers in hardcopy by Oxford University Press under it's Clarendon Press imprint on Great Clarendon Street , not to be confused with Clarendon Press of recent history.  Mark Barnes could probably provide more detail there.

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Greg Rose | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 15 2014 5:21 PM

My impression from the pre-pub info was that this was supposed to be one of the best Latin dictionaries.  When I right-click on a Latin word in one of the books in Latin it more often than not comes up with the Dictionary of Latin Forms, Collins Latin Dictionary and Grammar and not so much Harper's Latin Dictionary.  Does anyone know if Harper's was released more or less as a work in progress than as a finished product?

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 15 2014 5:31 PM

Greg, there are some issues with the headwords which are being worked on and an update will be released as soon as it is ready.  Also make sure you have prioritised this resource over the other ones.

Greg Rose:

My impression from the pre-pub info was that this was supposed to be one of the best Latin dictionaries.  When I right-click on a Latin word in one of the books in Latin it more often than not comes up with the Dictionary of Latin Forms, Collins Latin Dictionary and Grammar and not so much Harper's Latin Dictionary.  Does anyone know if Harper's was released more or less as a work in progress than as a finished product?

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 15 2014 5:35 PM

I don't have the answer, though that's been my experience with LS so far. But I'm no expert either.

For anyone that hasn't checked yet, interesting account on Lewis and Short:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Latin_Dictionary 

Obviously page counts are immensely inexact, but where LS has about 2,000 pages OLD has about 2,400.  Same ballpark-ish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Latin_Dictionary 

For (poor) comparison again, Collins Latin with Grammar is 640 pages paperback (which I assume is a smaller page than the hardbacks).

Also if anyone's forgotten, Collins is bi-directional (Latin>English and visa versa).  So if you're doing latin and in an english resource, you can prioritize Collins to give you the latin.  It also has a nice grammer refresher and a latin phrase lookup. Pretty nifty little volume.

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