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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, May 2 2014 5:15 PM

I know that some if not all of us regulars to the forums are troubled by an addiction to what in my youth growing up in New York could be labeled "product." I will allow myself to peddle the softer stuff from Community Pricing.

Before I offer my wares I will give some real advice from one who is well acquainted with the problem (I'm still a main liner hooked to a base and an assortment of goodies to the tune of just over one hundred dollars a month for the next two years, tisk, tisk). Here's the tip, stay away from enablers for awhile like the forums, the homepage, the blog, the Facebook and Twitter page, well you get my point. Do this until you regain your senses. 

Now for the medicine. I would like to push two resources that we "need." #1 is the Biblico-Theological Lexicon of New Testament Greek this baby is jammed packed with great info for us word junkies, a classic with a long history of feeding hungry babes such as ourselves.

This next work may need a little more of a push judging from its graph, which surprises me since the author is no unknown a tried and true scholar of the first order with a proven track record and this is a mammoth undertaking of his on the book near and dear to our collective hearts the title says it all The Companion Bible  . It's chock full of helps and goodies to satisfy even the most discriminating aficionado. There, I'm done. Off to my next gig on Suggestions.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 5:30 PM

Beloved:
#1 is the Biblico-Theological Lexicon of New Testament Greek this baby is jammed packed with great info for us word junkies, a classic with a long history of feeding hungry babes such as ourselves.

Tell me why I need yet another Greek Lexicon? I have about 30 of them already and I only ever use a few (BDAG, Kittel, DBL Greek, NIDNTT, ANLEX).

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 5:33 PM

How 'bout it's only $10 Big Smile

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 5:35 PM

I bid the max amount years ago. It seems like a NT TWOT. I can only hope it doesn't have TWOT's typos. Stick out tongue

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 5:46 PM

Beloved:
Now for the medicine. I would like to push two resources that we "need." #1 is the Biblico-Theological Lexicon of New Testament Greek this baby is jammed packed with great info for us word junkies, a classic with a long history of feeding hungry babes such as ourselves.

Is its age (pub. 1895) irrelevant to its real value?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 5:46 PM

Gee, I pay $10 for the privilege of spending 45 precious seconds of my life tagging yet another resource that I'll never use, when it shows up in my library months after I've forgotten that I ordered it. What a deal!

(You can tell I'm frustrated by all the new resources that have been downloading lately and the work it's been to keep up with tagging them all.)

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 5:49 PM

Rosie Perera:
Gee, I pay $10 for the privilege of spending 45 precious seconds of my life tagging yet another resource that I'll never use, when it shows up in my library months after I've forgotten that I ordered it. What a deal!

(You can tell I'm frustrated by all the new resources that have been downloading lately and the work it's been to keep up with tagging them all.)

It could be worse. Some of us would be quite pleased to have your problem! Stick out tongue

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 5:52 PM

Yeah, they haven't made it any easier to tag those babies. But, I tag them as I get them that makes it all the more tolerable. However, sometimes the ole computer hiccoughs and I have to go hunting for the book, this can be so frustrating!

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 5:56 PM

Rosie Perera:

Gee, I pay $10 for the privilege of spending 45 precious seconds of my life tagging yet another resource that I'll never use, when it shows up in my library months after I've forgotten that I ordered it. What a deal!

(You can tell I'm frustrated by all the new resources that have been downloading lately and the work it's been to keep up with tagging them all.)

That's pretty much exactly why I haven't bought the Reformed and Anglican Diamond, the Lutheran Gold, or the new Orthodox Library Builder. I think they are all excellent values...but I won't get them because they are full of gunk that I simply can't bring myself to download. I've been eyeing all of them...and as long as I look exclusively at the commentaries in each one, I keep saying "these are excellent deals"...and then I scroll down...and down...and down some more...and way before I'm even halfway done I have re-convinced myself that I'm just not going to do that to myself, or my computer.

I do think I would use this particular resource (the lexicon), though...probably on a regular basis. And I would love having the Companion Bible...it is indeed loaded with some great lists and other goodies. Frankly, I'm shocked that it is lingering so long. I thought it would race through CP into production.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 5:59 PM

SineNomine:
Is its age (pub. 1895) irrelevant to its real value?

Not to be trite, but I'll say it this way, scholarship is scholarship. The bible our constitution, need I continue? Some contributions are ageless, this is one of those. Buy it and try it if you don't see its value you can return it within 30 days.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 7:20 PM

Beloved:

SineNomine:
Is its age (pub. 1895) irrelevant to its real value?

Not to be trite, but I'll say it this way, scholarship is scholarship. The bible our constitution, need I continue? Some contributions are ageless, this is one of those. Buy it and try it if you don't see its value you can return it within 30 days.

I was thinking more in terms of the comparatively recent advances in our understanding of the grammar of non-Latin ancient languages that seem to be mentioned frequently in various threads around here.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 7:32 PM

Rosie Perera:

Beloved:
#1 is the Biblico-Theological Lexicon of New Testament Greek this baby is jammed packed with great info for us word junkies, a classic with a long history of feeding hungry babes such as ourselves.

Tell me why I need yet another Greek Lexicon? I have about 30 of them already and I only ever use a few (BDAG, Kittel, DBL Greek, NIDNTT, ANLEX).

Agreed - I would love to have this problem :)

My problem is antithetical - I have not enough money to honor my community pricing commitment. However in a week or so I will definitely have the time to invest in tagging.

If you like, email Rusty Davidson, I'm sure he'd transfer anything untagged out of your library and into mine lol.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 8 2014 3:41 PM

**bump**

see the Google Books pages for these resources and I think you'll agree that these works have value at the established prices...

The Companion Bible and 

Biblico-Theological Lexicon of New Testament Greek*

*Please note the edition used by Logos is the T&T Clark 1895 edition.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 8 2014 5:12 PM

I'm afraid I'm rather soured on the Companion Bible.  This is because I once knew a lady who was a part of a group with rather weird views who relied on it to support her position.  I don't think I could ever look at it objectively.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 8 2014 5:22 PM

George Somsel:
I once knew a lady who was a part of a group with rather weird views who relied on it to support her position.

George,

You're being cryptic. What was this cock-n-bull view this nice lady and her group held?

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 8 2014 5:31 PM

Beloved:

George Somsel:
I once knew a lady who was a part of a group with rather weird views who relied on it to support her position.

George,

You're being cryptic. What was this cock-n-bull view this nice lady and her group held?

A number of things such as a previous creation and some odd views regarding Kenites/Cainites.  I try to forget it as much as possible.

Here:  http://www.shepherdschapel.com/

george
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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 8 2014 5:41 PM

George,

Because a scholar proposes some objectionable views on some topic is no reason to dispose of all of his or her work, think of Origen, Augustine of Hippo, Erasmus, even Calvin and Luther.

EDIT:

For the record. The only reference to Kenites in Bullinger's work I note are on pgs. 218 and 386 and the assertions seem rather harmless as far as I can tell. I did not research prior creation or Cainites, but I will if you insist. 

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 9 2014 1:50 AM

Beloved:

Biblico-Theological Lexicon of New Testament Greek*

*Please note the edition used by Logos is the T&T Clark 1895 edition.

From sneaking into archive.org it seems that T&T Clark 1895 is translated from the German 2nd edition. Cremers work went through rapid reeditions in this time and this same year saw the 8th edition of the German original work. Cremer noted newly incorporated words in the prefaces as well as major changes such as his incorporation of Schlatter's work on pistis (FAITH in the New Testament).   

I'm in, of course. It seems to me that Cremer is not out to produce a full lexicon (like BDAG or TDNT) but a theological one, nevertheless his scope is much broader than Spicq's TLNT. 

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 9 2014 2:02 AM

NB.Mick:
From sneaking into archive.org it seems that T&T Clark 1895 is translated from the German 2nd edition.

Great site! Thanks for your erudite (in keeping with your standard) post.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 9 2014 3:19 AM

Beloved:
Now for the medicine. I would like to push two resources that we "need." #1 is the Biblico-Theological Lexicon of New Testament Greek this baby is jammed packed with great info for us word junkies, a classic with a long history of feeding hungry babes such as ourselves.

Not sure that this medicine will work. It might have unwanted side-effects. Tongue Tied

However, I like the taste of this medicine, so I have signed up. Though I agree with Rosie. I'm reaching the point where I have a superfluity of lexical aids/guides in my library. If I took them all down from the shelf, I'd lose sight of my Bible under the mountain of reference books.

Qoheleth had it right. cf. Ecc 12:12. Maybe it's a prophecy foreseeing the activity of Logos today! Wink

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Alan

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