Footnotes without page number on some resources

The lack of page numbers with certain resources when using the Harvard citation style has two do with a couple of things:

1) Logos always uses the Bibliographic style citation when copying footnotes, primarily because it generally gives more information that the footnote style for a traditional "author-date" format like Harvard. For example, In a research paper using actually Harvard style footnotes, a footnote might look like "Philpot 2014, p. 123." In a traditional Harvard formatted paper, you would of course have an Bibliography that had full bibliographic information for book, article, paper, etc this footnote referred to. In Logos, because we don't generate a full bibliography whenever you input a footnote, we currently opt to give you more information by providing the bibliographic style reference for styles that use author-date footnotes.

2) The reason that some resources in the Harvard style use page numbers and some don't, I think has to do with the type of resource, e.g. encyclopedia, book, journal, etc. I don't have your specific resources on my setup at home, so tomorrow at the office I can dig a little deeper and look at exactly the cases you reference and give you a more detailed explanation.

As a workaround for now, you can create a bibliography document and drag the selections of text you want to reference into it. Because you can change the style on the fly, you can see the page numbers if you use MLA or Turabian, but you can get the Harvard style rendering if you switch to Harvard. (Or you can do a similar thing with a clippings document if you want the text as well. Flip the clipping over and you'll see the citation.)

Hope this helps.

Graham Criddle said:

So does this mean that dragging to a Bibliography document doesn't use the Bibliographic Item?

If you mean, "Does it simply copy the formatted bibliography reference as text and paste it in?", the answer is no. It uses what we refer to as "citation fields", which is all the possible citation data about the selection (or resource) that we have. When you select a style, each bibliography item is rendered, which is why you can change the style on the fly. Whether or not a style chooses to take that information into account depends on the style and how it formats various resource types. In this case, these books have the page number information at all times, but Harvard is apparently finicky for some reason. I agree with you that WBC should render the same across volumes, so when I get in tomorrow, I'll try to dig into why it doesn't with Harvard.