Linking Cross-References

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mmaglaya | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014 11:02 PM

Is there a way to link/cross-reference things directly between several resources.

For example, in one resource, Spurgeon quotes John 1:16, but there is no reference to it, so I want to link it to a Bible. 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 31 2014 11:16 PM

Welcome to the forums

mmaglaya:

Is there a way to link/cross-reference things directly between several resources.

For example, in one resource, Spurgeon quotes John 1:16, but there is no reference to it, so I want to link it to a Bible. 

No, we can't add links to resources.

It is possible to create a note in the resource and have a link in the note so the reference is "one click away"

But, in general, these links should be in place.

Can you provide specific details - resource name, page number (if available)?

Graham

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mmaglaya | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 1 2014 12:06 AM

Page 18. Spurgeon says, "We live in him, by him, for him, to him, when we abide in him". And I want to put a note that he's referencing Acts 17:28.

Spurgeon, C. H. (1888). The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit Sermons (Vol. 34, p. 18). London: Passmore & Alabaster.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 1 2014 12:37 AM

mmaglaya:

Page 18. Spurgeon says, "We live in him, by him, for him, to him, when we abide in him". And I want to put a note that he's referencing Acts 17:28.

Spurgeon, C. H. (1888). The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit Sermons (Vol. 34, p. 18). London: Passmore & Alabaster.

Thanks, I understand now.

It isn't that the reference is given but not linked but the reference isn't there and you want to add it.

The best I can think of is to create a note tied to the selected text you want to reference and then in the note include a link to the Bible passage.

That way, you will be able to access the note and then the passage.

Sorry, but I'm not at my computer at the moment so can't show steps of how to do it. Hopefully the information at https://wiki.logos.com/Notes will help.

If you can't figure it out, please post back and we'll try to help further

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G | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 10 2021 5:18 PM

Graham Criddle:

It is possible to create a note in the resource and have a link in the note so the reference is "one click away"

But, in general, these links should be in place

Graham, though this was back in 2014, I suppose it remains true, that I cannot link text in one non-biblical resource directly to text in another non-biblical resource: In my case for instance, though a longer description of 'X' in one encyclopedic resource might be in itself the 'best evidence', a shorter description of 'X' in a dictionary sometimes has details or an additional example of 'X' not in the longer.

(Your note-link is a simple workaround.)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 10 2021 10:46 PM

G:
Graham, though this was back in 2014, I suppose it remains true, that I cannot link text in one non-biblical resource directly to text in another non-biblical resource:

That is correct - we still can't do this.

However, with the development of Notes we can now have multiple anchors to a note

G:
In my case for instance, though a longer description of 'X' in one encyclopedic resource might be in itself the 'best evidence', a shorter description of 'X' in a dictionary sometimes has details or an additional example of 'X' not in the longer.

So you could create a note with an anchor to each of the articles you are describing which makes the process of linking them easier. 

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G | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 11 2021 8:59 AM

Thanks Graham — As soon as I read your 2014 response reporting that direct links were not possible (a couple days ago), I built such a note, tying together, linking several mostly 'Beowulf' references about Wyrd. (At some point and with this confirmation that the situation has not changed, I will broaden it to include some references to Providence and Destiny.)

I now have a Notes notebook specifically of/for such notes.

g

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Josh Hunt | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 11 2021 9:58 AM

mmaglaya:

Is there a way to link/cross-reference things directly between several resources.

For example, in one resource, Spurgeon quotes John 1:16, but there is no reference to it, so I want to link it to a Bible. 

My opinion...

A next level feature for Logos would be to experiment with ways to make this possible. Some kind of crowd sourcing to make it possible for user to fix mistakes and add cross-references. The above example is easy and should have been caught when they produced the product. The next level is one author quotes another author. There is a huge army of us willing to help with this--for free--if it were possible. 

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 12 2021 4:12 PM

It’s not even next level as ”Community sharing“ already exists in the software that would allow us to add and share links or a suggested correction to the text that would show up in a popup box. And truth is we can already do this with community notes. A FL group could be created for those who want in on this venture and as you come across missing links or what you believe to be as typos you could simply add a community note to the text. But guess what that group already exists but people didn’t get on board with it.

https://faithlife.com/typos/activity

Josh Hunt:

mmaglaya:

Is there a way to link/cross-reference things directly between several resources.

For example, in one resource, Spurgeon quotes John 1:16, but there is no reference to it, so I want to link it to a Bible. 

My opinion...

A next level feature for Logos would be to experiment with ways to make this possible. Some kind of crowd sourcing to make it possible for user to fix mistakes and add cross-references. The above example is easy and should have been caught when they produced the product. The next level is one author quotes another author. There is a huge army of us willing to help with this--for free--if it were possible. 

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g | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 12 2021 5:46 PM

Just to be sure, my 2021 question above to Graham was about my own xref'g between related resources that I find serve as supplemental to the other(s). It had nothing to do with 'community' use.

(G, the recent past 'OP', "Thanks Graham — As soon as I read your 2014 response …")

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 13 2021 12:57 PM

Totally understood g, my response was in relation to Josh Hunt’s comments. Unfortunately threads do tend to take different directions at times but your original question was not lost in me. in fact i believe using A note is the best way to solve your problem as things currently stand. I don’t believe as users we should or would ever be granted access to change or add to the text layer of the resource. Every user would end up with there own version of a resource file making updating of resource files impossible.

And even if there was a layer that sat over the top of the text that could lead to problems when a resource is updated if there was any changes to the position of the text with the two layers ending up out of sync. That’s a problem now without a separate user edited layer for resources like Lexham Bible Dictionary that  is a dynamic resource with new content being added to from time to time. 

So for me as I see it there are real practical and technical challenges to making what you want work outside of using notes which is possibly why when this has been asked for in the past FL has not yet taken up the challenge. But I could be wrong, I’m just a fellow user and hope I am wrong in my thoughts and that this is done someday but in the meantime don’t see it as problematic to use notes to do this on the occasions I want to but for you maybe you want to do it a lot more than I do.

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