Ok... So this should be an easy search but I'm struggling to make it happen. I want to list all occurrences of 3:16 in my bible without regard to book.
I've tried *3:16 and * 3:16 to no avail...
What obvious search string am I missing?
There may be a better way but From http://community.logos.com/forums/t/61901.aspx
Gen 3:16, Exod 3:16, Lev 3:16, Num 3:16, Deut 3:16, Josh 3:16, Judg 3:16, Ruth 3:16, 1 Sam 3:16, 2 Sam 3:16, 1 Kings 3:16, 2 Kings 3:16, 1 Chron 3:16, 2 Chron 3:16, Ezra 3:16, Neh 3:16, Esth 3:16, Job 3:16, Ps 3:16, Prov 3:16, Eccles 3:16, Song 3:16, Isa 3:16, Jer 3:16, Lam 3:16, Ezek 3:16, Dan 3:16, Hos 3:16, Joel 3:16, Amos 3:16, Obad 3:16, Jon 3:16, Mic 3:16, Nah 3:16, Hab 3:16, Zeph 3:16, Hag 3:16, Zech 3:16, Mal 3:16, Matt 3:16, Mark 3:16, Luke 3:16, John 3:16, Acts 3:16, Rom 3:16, 1 Cor 3:16, 2 Cor 3:16, Gal 3:16, Eph 3:16, Phil 3:16, Col 3:16, 1 Thess 3:16, 2 Thess 3:16, 1 Tim 3:16,2 Tim 3:16, Tit 3:16, Philem 3:16, Heb 3:16, Jas 3:16, 1 Pet 3:16, 2 Pet 3:16, 1 John 3:16, 2 John 3:16, 3 John 3:16, Jude 3:16, Rev 3:16
copy the text, create a passage list, and click Add ...from clipboard. Then select whichever bible version you like.
I don't think this could be done easily. The only way I can think of would be to create a string of verse references (Gen 3:16, Ex 3:16, Lev 3:16 .....) in a passage list. I tested that with the first three books and it worked. It should work with all of the books. Note that if you include a book which does not have a 3:16 (e.g. Jude) it will include the entire book.
EDIT: I guess Randy was replying at the same time. His post saves you the trouble of typing all of the references. I would remove the books you know do not have a 3:16.
This should be a really easy search for Logos...
Not to be glib, but why? As I understand things, Scripture is to be read in context, and not as fragments connected by arbitrary numbering systems.
This should be a really easy search for Logos... Not to be glib, but why? As I understand things, Scripture is to be read in context, and not as fragments connected by arbitrary numbering systems.
Why does it matter "why"? It's a search that I decided I want to do... if for no other reasons, for mnemonics. Thanks for making a very helpful and useful contribution to my question.
Not really. You can't use the Bible Search window to "search" the Bible for verse references, even without a wildcard. Bible search is for searching the text, not the references.
Bible windows only support displaying one reference at a time, so it can't happen there either.
Using a Passage List is the only way to enter multiple verse references in a single window, so Randy's method is the best you're going to get because I don't think wildcards are allowed in references in any context.
Ken's question of "why?" is valid because it can help us understand what you're trying to achieve and that allows us to suggest alternate methods when we understand better. Also, if you want Logos to add search functionality they don't support, it helps to show the usefulness of that search.
Hi Randy,
This could be done using the ComAPI for Logos. The API allow you to get book info on a specific resource, the info tells how many chapter & verses per chapter are in a book. But one would have to know how variations of versification existed in different Bibles to make it thorough.
What i found interesting in your list was Obad 3:16 and Philem 3:16, among others (books which only have one chapter) [:)]. Thanks for pointing us to the other post! Creative work you and others have done!
For your or others who might be interested in coding this method:
Pieter Kotze wrote a nice set of code which uses the ComAPI which would give you a starting point (see this post).
Todd,
I can accept your question of why in the context that you presented it. I took issue with Ken's question due to his assumption of my intentions as evidenced by his comment of context and numbering systems.
As to why... Simply put, using mnemonics and associations has always been and will always be a great method of memorization or placing a fact into one's mind. A quick example is Acts 4:13 speaks to the transforming power of being with Christ; Philippians 4:13 speaks of Christ's enabling power.... And on and on I could go. So, while the numbering system may be arbitrary to contextual study of the Word of God, it is certainly useful for association mnemonically.
So, having a way to quickly LIST verses in this process would be helpful.
Oddly enough, what Tom is doing does show up in patterns in the OT/NT. Don't know why. But when I was doing analytics on the text (Ken), the pattern on versification (Tom) wasn't random as you'd expect. I've not ever read why that might be, since versification was a printing feature centuries after the writing. The only hazy guess I've ever had is writers would manage within scrolls, columns, etc (ditto papyri) relative to expectations of public reading.
What i found interesting in your list was Obad 3:16 and Philem 3:16, among others (books which only have one chapter) .
Bah! I'm way to lazy to pick those out. [:D] Just tack the ch & vs at the end of every book (oops, I did not include the "full" canon; shh!) and when it's imported, Logos will silently ignore the nonsensical ones. [H]
I do wish the COM API was a bit more extensive though. I think we could have some fun with it find some useful things to do with it. Eg, automatically creating/updating collections for the Theology/Denom Project, maybe some stuff with PBs, notes, etc. I imagine LLR could do some neat tricks with it too.
I would remove the books you know do not have a 3:16.
And I would add the deuterocanonicals[;)]
Actually, using a spreadsheet pre-populated with the books of the bible in one column, I can add the verse ref in column 2 and copy and paste it down. Copying those two columns will paste just fine into the passage list.
Thanks for the idea.
It's obviously not as good as a search doing it but it only takes about 1 minute to accomplish this way.
Grace and Peace.
Oddly enough, what Tom is doing does show up in patterns in the OT/NT. Don't know why.
“The human mind delights in finding pattern—so much so that we often mistake coincidence or forced analogy for profound meaning. No other habit of thought lies so deeply within the soul of a small creature trying to make sense of a complex world not constructed for it.”
― Stephen Jay Gould, The Flamingo's Smile: Reflections in Natural History
Bible Book abbreviations => https://www.logos.com/support/windows/L4/abbreviations
First verse of every Book (learned Letter of Jeremiah is Baruch 6 in 1873 AV):
Ge1.1, Ex1.1, Le1.1, Nu1.1, Dt1.1, Jos1.1, Jdg1.1, Ru1.1, 1S1.1, 2S1.1, 1K1.1, 2K1.1, 1Ch1.1, 2Ch1.1, Ez1.1, Ne1.1, Es1.1, Jb1.1, Ps1.1, Pr1.1, Ec1.1, So1.1, Is1.1, Je1.1, La1.1, Ezk1.1, Dn1.1, Ho1.1, Jl1.1, Am1.1, Ob1, Jnh1.1, Mc1.1, Na1.1, Hb1.1, Zp1.1, Hg1.1, Zc1.1, Ml1.1, Tb1.1, Jth1.1, AEs1.1, Ws1.1, Sir1.1, Bar1.1, Bar6.1, Azariah1, Sus1, Bel1, 1M1.1, 2M1.1, 1Es1.1, PMa1.1, Add Ps1, 3M1.1, 2Es1.1, 4M1.1, Ode1.1, PsSol1.1, Laod1, Mt1.1, Mk1.1, Lk1.1, Jn1.1, Ac1.1, Rm1.1, 1Co1.1, 2Co1.1, Ga1.1, Eph1.1, Php1.1, Co1.1, 1Th1.1, 2Th1.1, 1Ti1.1, 2Ti1.1, Ti1.1, Phm1, Heb1.1, Jm1.1, 1Pe1.1, 2Pe1.1, 1Jn1.1, 2Jn1.1, 3Jn1.1, Jd1, Re1.1
Printer's reference of 3:16 has 59 passages, including deuterocanonicals:
Ge3.16, Ex3.16, Le3.16, Nu3.16, Dt3.16, Jos3.16, Jdg3.16, Ru3.16, 1S3.16, 2S3.16, 1K3.16, 2K3.16, 1Ch3.16, 2Ch3.16, Ne3.16, Jb3.16, Ps3.16, Pr3.16, Ec3.16, Is3.16, Je3.16, La3.16, Ezk3.16, Dn3.16, Joe3.16, Na3.16, Hb3.16, Zp3.16, Ml3.16, Tb3.16, Ws3.16, Sir3.16, Bar3.16, 1M3.16, 2M3.16, 1Es3.16, 3M3.16, 2Es3.16, 4M3.16, Mt3.16, Mk3.16, Lk3.16, Jn3.16, Ac3.16, Rm3.16, 1Co3.16, 2Co3.16, Ga3.16, Eph3.16, Php3.16, Co3.16, 2Th3.16, 1Ti3.16, 2Ti3.16, Heb3.16, Jm3.16, 1Pe3.16, 2Pe3.16, 1Jn3.16, Re3.16
Keep Smiling [:)]
Gee, MJ. I'd thought the bait would be a bit too obvious. Modern discourse is fraught with easy answers, where data is but an unnecessary luxury.
But I think that's been your theme song for some time? It's a lazy early August afternoon.
If you do some math on the letters and words in Gen 1:1 ("In the beginning") and John 1:1 ("In the beginning...") you get the values to 4 decimal places of two universal constants. The Hebrew math gives Pi (the circle property, 3.14159...) and the Greek math gives e (the base of natural logarithms)! Now, why doesn't the Greek math give Pi...
Sorry, but Logos won't help with this beyond "In the beginning...God".
If you use an absolute cell reference, you only have to type the reference in one place like the attached sheet.
3175.All the Verses.xls
EDIT: BTW, if you wanted to add a macro and link a button to it to copy the range to the clipboard, you can use something like:
Range("A4").CurrentRegion.Columns(2).Copy
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