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Jonathan | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 9:50 AM

Phil Gons:

Phil Gons:

Mark Smith:
For me a simple upgrade to all the Galaxie journals would do. Why not have a small bundle with just those offered? I do think there is very clear market interest in that.

We're exploring this.

We'll probably end up with four products, instead of one:

  1. Master Journal Bundle: virtually all journals we have that can be bundled together
  2. Theological Journal Bundle: theological journals more geared at the ETS audience; comparable to TJL, but including other theological journals not in TJL
  3. Academic Journal Bundle: academic journals more geared at the SBL audience
  4. TJL Upgrade Bundle: only journals that were a part of the TJL products

Would these four meet everyone's needs? I thought about a bundle for archaeology and another for ministry, but I don't think we have enough in those categories yet. Maybe in the future.

I would be happy with just options 1-3. My concern was the inclusion of "extraneous" journals I'd never utilize. I'd be okay with a handful of new additions here and there. I would just like to see someway to keep our TLJ journals up to date over the years.  I've invested a fair bit on these journals, and I'd like the opportunity to continue to do that. 

In terms of developing a naming convention for these sets, you could substitute "critical scholarship" (or some variation) for the SBL audience grouping. SBL's website identifies itself with such terms.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 10:16 AM

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abondservant:
I noticed Table Talk wasn't in the master bundle, assuming that was tied to licensing?

Good call. I'll have to check on that. We tended to exclude most magazines, unless they were more like journals. I think Tabletalk could make the cut. I'll have to check on the license to see if there are bundling restrictions. Thanks for the suggestion.

Excellent - I enjoy their material. They may call themselves a magazine but they are close enough to being journals to satisfy my professors.

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Fr Devin Roza | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 11:07 AM

Phil, I would love to be able to filter journals in Logos by whether they are peer reviewed or not. Sometimes this is important to keep in mind for academic publications. I hope this metadata can be added in some way that allows us to create collections based on it. 

Phil Gons:
I agree it's not perfect and is an oversimplification, but I've not come up with anything better yet. Open to suggestions.

I'm not sure if any of the journals included in your "Theological Journals" category are officially "peer reviewed" journals, but if they are not, one simple title that you could use for Academic Journals is Peer Reviewed Journals. In fact, "peer reviewed journals" and "scholarly journals" are oftentimes considered synonymous terms. Cf., for example, http://www.angelo.edu/services/library/handouts/peerrev.php and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_review.

Thanks so much for getting more journals! I'm particularly interested in seeing Faithlife add more peer reviewed journals.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 2:04 PM

Phil Gons:

We'll probably end up with four products, instead of one:

  1. Master Journal Bundle: virtually all journals we have that can be bundled together
  2. Theological Journal Bundle: theological journals more geared at the ETS audience; comparable to TJL, but including other theological journals not in TJL
  3. Academic Journal Bundle: academic journals more geared at the SBL audience
  4. TJL Upgrade Bundle: only journals that were a part of the TJL products

Would these four meet everyone's needs? I thought about a bundle for archaeology and another for ministry, but I don't think we have enough in those categories yet. Maybe in the future.

Here's what would likely be in each:

Master Journal Bundle

  1. American Theological Inquiry 1–7, 7 vols. (2008–2014)
  2. Ashland Theological Journal 1–46, 46 vols. (1968–2014)
  3. Biblical Archaeologist 55–60, 6 vols. (1992–1997)
  4. Biblical Repertory 1–5, 5 vols. (1825–1829)
  5. The Biblical Repertory and Theological Review 2–8, 7 vols. (1829–1836)
  6. Bibliotheca Sacra 1–171, 171 vols. (1844–2014)
  7. Bulletin for Biblical Research 1–23, 23 vols. (1991–2013)
  8. Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research 285–368, 84 vols. (1992–2012)
  9. The Bulletin Series of the Near East Archaeological Society: New Series 11–58, 45 vols. (1971–2013)
  10. Chafer Theological Seminary Journal 1–14, 14 vols. (1995–2009)
  11. Conservative Theological Journal 1–7, 7 vols. (1997–2003)
  12. Conspectus: The Journal of the South African Theological Seminary 1–17, 17 vols. (2006–2014)
  13. Credo Magazine 1–2, 2 vols. (2011–2012)
  14. Critical Review of Books in Religion, 11 vols. (1988–1998)
  15. Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal 1–18, 18 vols. (1996–2013)
  16. Ex Auditu: An International Journal of Theological Interpretation of Scripture 24–28, 5 vols. (2008–2012)
  17. Filología Neotestamentaria 1–22, 22 vols. (1988–2009)
  18. Hugoye: Journal of Syriac Studies 1–2, 4–15, 14 vols. (1998–2012)
  19. Imaginatio et Ratio: A Journal of Theology and the Arts 2, 1 vol. (2013)
  20. Jewish Quarterly Review: New Series 1–13, 13 vols. (1910–1923)
  21. Journal for the Evangelical Study of the Old Testament 1, 1 vol. (2012)
  22. Journal for New Testament Studies and the Ancient Church, 10 vols. (2002–2012)
  23. Journal of Biblical and Pneumatological Research 1–4, 4 vols. (2009–2012)
  24. Journal of Biblical Apologetics 1–11, 11 vols. (2000–2008)
  25. Journal of Biblical Literature 100–125, 26 vols. (1981–2006)
  26. Journal of Cuneiform Studies 43–64, 22 vols. (1991–2011)
  27. Journal of Dispensational Theology 10–17, 8 vols. (2006–2013)
  28. Journal of Hebrew Scriptures 1–4, 6–11, 10 vols. (1997–2011)
  29. Journal of Markets and Morality 1–15, 15 vols. (1998–2012)
  30. Journal of Ministry and Theology 1–17, 17 vols. (1997–2013)
  31. Journal of Modern Ministry 1–6, 6 vols. (2004–2009)
  32. Journal of Moral Theology 1–3, 3 vols. (2012–2014)
  33. Journal of Northwest Semitic Languages 1–37, 37 vols. (1975–2011)
  34. Journal of the Canadian Society for Syriac Studies 2–13, 12 vols. (2002–2013)
  35. Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society 1–26, 26 vols. (1988–2013)
  36. Journal of Theological Interpretation 1–6, 6 vols. (2007–2012)
  37. Letter and Spirit 1–8, 8 vols. (2005–2013)
  38. Maranatha Baptist Theological Seminary 1–4, 4 vols. (2011–2014)
  39. Near Eastern Archaeology: Bulletin of the Near Eastern Archaeological Society 1–4, 6–10, 9 vols. (1958–1961, 1963–1967)
  40. Near Eastern Archaeology 61–76, 16 vols. (1998–2013)
  41. The New Princeton Review 1–6, 6 vols. (1886–1888)
  42. The Other Journal: An Intersection of Theology and Culture 22, 1 vol.
  43. The Presbyterian and Reformed Review 1–13, 13 vols. (1890–1902)
  44. The Presbyterian Review 1–10, 10 vols. (1880–1889)
  45. The Princeton Review, 7 vols. (1878–1884)
  46. The Princeton Theological Review 1–27, 27 vols. (1903–1929)
  47. Priscilla Papers 1–28, 28 vols. (1987–2014)
  48. Puritan Reformed Journal 1–5, 5 vols. (2009–2013)
  49. Religious and Theological Abstracts, 65 vols. (1948–2012)
  50. Review of Biblical Literature 1–9, 9 vols. (1998–2006)
  51. Scrinium, 7 vols.
  52. Semeia: An Experimental Journal for Biblical Criticism 1–91, 91 vols. (1974–2002)
  53. Themelios: An International Journal for Students of Theological and Religious Studies 1–39, 39 vols. (1975–2014)

Theological Journal Bundle

  1. American Theological Inquiry 1–7, 7 vols. (2008–2014)
  2. Ashland Theological Journal 1–46, 46 vols. (1968–2014)
  3. Biblical Repertory 1–5, 5 vols. (1825–1829)
  4. The Biblical Repertory and Theological Review 2–8, 7 vols. (1829–1836)
  5. Bibliotheca Sacra 1–171, 171 vols. (1844–2014)
  6. Bulletin for Biblical Research 1–23, 23 vols. (1991–2013)
  7. Chafer Theological Seminary Journal 1–14, 14 vols. (1995–2009)
  8. Conservative Theological Journal 1–7, 7 vols. (1997–2003)
  9. Conspectus: The Journal of the South African Theological Seminary 1–17, 17 vols. (2006–2014)
  10. Credo Magazine 1–2, 2 vols. (2011–2012)
  11. Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal 1–18, 18 vols. (1996–2013)
  12. Ex Auditu: An International Journal of Theological Interpretation of Scripture 24–28, 5 vols. (2008–2012)
  13. Journal for the Evangelical Study of the Old Testament 1, 1 vol. (2012)
  14. Journal of Biblical and Pneumatological Research 1–4, 4 vols. (2009–2012)
  15. Journal of Biblical Apologetics 1–11, 11 vols. (2000–2008)
  16. Journal of Dispensational Theology 10–17, 8 vols. (2006–2013)
  17. Journal of Ministry and Theology 1–17, 17 vols. (1997–2013)
  18. Journal of Moral Theology 1–3, 3 vols. (2012–2014)
  19. Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society 1–26, 26 vols. (1988–2013)
  20. Journal of Theological Interpretation 1–6, 6 vols. (2007–2012)
  21. Maranatha Baptist Theological Seminary 1–4, 4 vols. (2011–2014)
  22. The New Princeton Review 1–6, 6 vols. (1886–1888)
  23. The Presbyterian and Reformed Review 1–13, 13 vols. (1890–1902)
  24. The Presbyterian Review 1–10, 10 vols. (1880–1889)
  25. The Princeton Review, 7 vols. (1878–1884)
  26. The Princeton Theological Review 1–27, 27 vols. (1903–1929)
  27. Puritan Reformed Journal 1–5, 5 vols. (2009–2013)
  28. Themelios: An International Journal for Students of Theological and Religious Studies 1–39, 39 vols. (1975–2014)

Academic Journal Bundle

  1. Biblical Archaeologist 55–60, 6 vols. (1992–1997)
  2. Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research 285–368, 84 vols. (1992–2012)
  3. The Bulletin Series of the Near East Archaeological Society: New Series 11–58, 45 vols. (1971–2013)
  4. Critical Review of Books in Religion, 11 vols. (1988–1998)
  5. Filología Neotestamentaria 1–22, 22 vols. (1988–2009)
  6. Hugoye: Journal of Syriac Studies 1–2, 4–15, 14 vols. (1998–2012)
  7. Jewish Quarterly Review: New Series 1–13, 13 vols. (1910–1923)
  8. Journal of Biblical Literature 100–125, 26 vols. (1981–2006)
  9. Journal of Cuneiform Studies 43–64, 22 vols. (1991–2011)
  10. Journal of Hebrew Scriptures 1–4, 6–11, 10 vols. (1997–2011)
  11. Journal of Northwest Semitic Languages 1–37, 37 vols. (1975–2011)
  12. Journal of the Canadian Society for Syriac Studies 2–13, 12 vols. (2002–2013)
  13. Near Eastern Archaeology: Bulletin of the Near Eastern Archaeological Society 1–4, 6–10, 9 vols. (1958–1961, 1963–1967)
  14. Near Eastern Archaeology 61–76, 16 vols. (1998–2013)
  15. Review of Biblical Literature 1–9, 9 vols. (1998–2006)
  16. Semeia: An Experimental Journal for Biblical Criticism 1–91, 91 vols. (1974–2002)

TJL Upgrade Bundle

  1. Ashland Theological Journal 1–46, 46 vols. (1968–2014)
  2. Bibliotheca Sacra 1–171, 171 vols. (1844–2014)
  3. Bulletin for Biblical Research 1–23, 23 vols. (1991–2013)
  4. Chafer Theological Seminary Journal 1–14, 14 vols. (1995–2009)
  5. Conservative Theological Journal 1–7, 7 vols. (1997–2003)
  6. Conspectus: The Journal of the South African Theological Seminary 1–17, 17 vols. (2006–2014)
  7. Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal 1–18, 18 vols. (1996–2013)
  8. Journal of Dispensational Theology 10–17, 8 vols. (2006–2013)
  9. Journal of Ministry and Theology 1–17, 17 vols. (1997–2013)
  10. Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society 1–26, 26 vols. (1988–2013)
  11. Maranatha Baptist Theological Seminary 1–4, 4 vols. (2011–2014)
  12. Priscilla Papers 1–28, 28 vols. (1987–2014)
  13. Puritan Reformed Journal 1–5, 5 vols. (2009–2013)

We'll also be considering adding some of these to one or more of the above bundles:

  1. 9Marks Journal 1–11, 11 vols. (2004–14)
  2. Adventist Today Journal 1–23, 23 vols. (1993–2013)
  3. The Biblical Repertory and Princeton Review 9–43, 35 vols. (1837–1871)
  4. Christian History and Biography Magazine, 1–99, 99 iss.
  5. Journal of Global Christianity 1, 1 vol. (2014)
  6. The Presbyterian Quarterly and Princeton Review 1–6, 6 vols. (1872–1877)
  7. Tabletalk 1–289, 289 iss. (1989–2013)

Any suggested changes or recommendations?

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 2:18 PM

Phil any chance of adding Bible Today and Homiletic and Pastoral Review? These are two of my favorites and they have a well-respected group of theologians who contribute each issue.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 2:26 PM

Don Awalt:

Phil any chance of adding Bible Today and Homiletic and Pastoral Review? These are two of my favorites and they have a well-respected group of theologians who contribute each issue.

I think both are possibilities. The first was on my list; the second wasn't, but I added it.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 2:30 PM

Mark Barnes:
How about Seminary Journal Bundle? Almost all of the ETS-type stuff (apart from JETS itself, of course) is published by seminaries. The title might well make it more attractive to seminary students, too.

Interesting idea. It works for the majority, but definitely not all (e.g., Themelios).

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 2:32 PM

Jonathan:
In terms of developing a naming convention for these sets, you could substitute "critical scholarship" (or some variation) for the SBL audience grouping. SBL's website identifies itself with such terms.

That's a good alternative that we'll give thought to. I was considering some form of scholarly as a substitute for academic.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 2:34 PM

Fr Devin Roza:
Phil, I would love to be able to filter journals in Logos by whether they are peer reviewed or not. Sometimes this is important to keep in mind for academic publications. I hope this metadata can be added in some way that allows us to create collections based on it. 

That's a good idea. We'll see about adding this into metadata somewhere.

Fr Devin Roza:
I'm not sure if any of the journals included in your "Theological Journals" category are officially "peer reviewed" journals, but if they are not, one simple title that you could use for Academic Journals is Peer Reviewed Journals. In fact, "peer reviewed journals" and "scholarly journals" are oftentimes considered synonymous terms.

Not sure if the categories line up well with this or not, but we'll consider it.

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Robert Harner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 2:46 PM

Phil Gons:

Master Journal Bundle

All I care about is the above bundle has everything including the kitchen sink.  

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 4:00 PM

Phil Gons:

Theological Journal Bundle

  1. American Theological Inquiry 1–7, 7 vols. (2008–2014)
  2. Ashland Theological Journal 1–46, 46 vols. (1968–2014)
  3. Biblical Repertory 1–5, 5 vols. (1825–1829)
  4. The Biblical Repertory and Theological Review 2–8, 7 vols. (1829–1836)
  5. Bibliotheca Sacra 1–171, 171 vols. (1844–2014)
  6. Bulletin for Biblical Research 1–23, 23 vols. (1991–2013)
  7. Chafer Theological Seminary Journal 1–14, 14 vols. (1995–2009)
  8. Conservative Theological Journal 1–7, 7 vols. (1997–2003)
  9. Conspectus: The Journal of the South African Theological Seminary 1–17, 17 vols. (2006–2014)
  10. Credo Magazine 1–2, 2 vols. (2011–2012)
  11. Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal 1–18, 18 vols. (1996–2013)
  12. Ex Auditu: An International Journal of Theological Interpretation of Scripture 24–28, 5 vols. (2008–2012)
  13. Journal for the Evangelical Study of the Old Testament 1, 1 vol. (2012)
  14. Journal of Biblical and Pneumatological Research 1–4, 4 vols. (2009–2012)
  15. Journal of Biblical Apologetics 1–11, 11 vols. (2000–2008)
  16. Journal of Dispensational Theology 10–17, 8 vols. (2006–2013)
  17. Journal of Ministry and Theology 1–17, 17 vols. (1997–2013)
  18. Journal of Moral Theology 1–3, 3 vols. (2012–2014)
  19. Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society 1–26, 26 vols. (1988–2013)
  20. Journal of Theological Interpretation 1–6, 6 vols. (2007–2012)
  21. Maranatha Baptist Theological Seminary 1–4, 4 vols. (2011–2014)
  22. The New Princeton Review 1–6, 6 vols. (1886–1888)
  23. The Presbyterian and Reformed Review 1–13, 13 vols. (1890–1902)
  24. The Presbyterian Review 1–10, 10 vols. (1880–1889)
  25. The Princeton Review, 7 vols. (1878–1884)
  26. The Princeton Theological Review 1–27, 27 vols. (1903–1929)
  27. Puritan Reformed Journal 1–5, 5 vols. (2009–2013)
  28. Themelios: An International Journal for Students of Theological and Religious Studies 1–39, 39 vols. (1975–2014)

I am not interested in these very old journals. I'd prefer these be bundled separately as journals of historical interest. I don't think this collection should have any historical journals or journals that are no longer being published.

Of course I want JETS and WTJ added to this, esp. since they would continue the series I already own. I would miss many other TLJ offerings.

The weakness of this offering (to me, at least) is how shallow it is after the really old stuff is eliminated. Many journals but very few issues of most of them. (I count 11 journals that do not go back before 2006.) Is there a reason for this? (I would buy it anyway but wonder if there is additional material that will be added later?)

Phil Gons:

TJL Upgrade Bundle

  1. Ashland Theological Journal 1–46, 46 vols. (1968–2014)
  2. Bibliotheca Sacra 1–171, 171 vols. (1844–2014)
  3. Bulletin for Biblical Research 1–23, 23 vols. (1991–2013)
  4. Chafer Theological Seminary Journal 1–14, 14 vols. (1995–2009)
  5. Conservative Theological Journal 1–7, 7 vols. (1997–2003)
  6. Conspectus: The Journal of the South African Theological Seminary 1–17, 17 vols. (2006–2014)
  7. Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal 1–18, 18 vols. (1996–2013)
  8. Journal of Dispensational Theology 10–17, 8 vols. (2006–2013)
  9. Journal of Ministry and Theology 1–17, 17 vols. (1997–2013)
  10. Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society 1–26, 26 vols. (1988–2013)
  11. Maranatha Baptist Theological Seminary 1–4, 4 vols. (2011–2014)
  12. Priscilla Papers 1–28, 28 vols. (1987–2014)
  13. Puritan Reformed Journal 1–5, 5 vols. (2009–2013)

I wonder if you left this one out of the Theological Journal Library accidentally? Everything else here is there.

Thanks for reconsidering this offering. (I cannot imagine needing to read about cuneiform studies or Northwest Semitic studies.)

The division makes sense (with the caveats above).

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 4:30 PM

I'm not Catholic, but I would like to see Catholic Biblical Quarterly.

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 4:41 PM

Phil Gons:

Don Awalt:

Phil any chance of adding Bible Today and Homiletic and Pastoral Review? These are two of my favorites and they have a well-respected group of theologians who contribute each issue.

I think both are possibilities. The first was on my list; the second wasn't, but I added it.

Thanks Phil! Encouraging.

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David Sloan | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 5:08 PM

Phil Gons:

Academic Journal Bundle

  1. Biblical Archaeologist 55–60, 6 vols. (1992–1997)
  2. Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research 285–368, 84 vols. (1992–2012)
  3. The Bulletin Series of the Near East Archaeological Society: New Series 11–58, 45 vols. (1971–2013)
  4. Critical Review of Books in Religion, 11 vols. (1988–1998)
  5. Filología Neotestamentaria 1–22, 22 vols. (1988–2009)
  6. Hugoye: Journal of Syriac Studies 1–2, 4–15, 14 vols. (1998–2012)
  7. Jewish Quarterly Review: New Series 1–13, 13 vols. (1910–1923)
  8. Journal of Biblical Literature 100–125, 26 vols. (1981–2006)
  9. Journal of Cuneiform Studies 43–64, 22 vols. (1991–2011)
  10. Journal of Hebrew Scriptures 1–4, 6–11, 10 vols. (1997–2011)
  11. Journal of Northwest Semitic Languages 1–37, 37 vols. (1975–2011)
  12. Journal of the Canadian Society for Syriac Studies 2–13, 12 vols. (2002–2013)
  13. Near Eastern Archaeology: Bulletin of the Near Eastern Archaeological Society 1–4, 6–10, 9 vols. (1958–1961, 1963–1967)
  14. Near Eastern Archaeology 61–76, 16 vols. (1998–2013)
  15. Review of Biblical Literature 1–9, 9 vols. (1998–2006)
  16. Semeia: An Experimental Journal for Biblical Criticism 1–91, 91 vols. (1974–2002)

As a New Testament professor, the absence of New Testament Studies, Novum Testamentum, and Journal for the Study of the New Testament is glaring. (Of course the OT equivalents are also missing.) Also no Catholic Biblical Quarterly, Harvard Theological Review, Journal of Theological Studies. You've seen my Top 20, which did not include JBL only because it was a list of what you did not already have available, but JBL and Semeia are the only journals I particularly care about in this list. So though I consider myself more of the SBL type, I am only excited about two of the sixteen journals you offer. I also am interested in BBR (which is why I bought TJL 15, which gave me the whole set), JETS, and Tyndale Bulletin. Slightly intriguing to me are Bibliotheca Sacra, Trinity Journal, Journal of Theological Interpretation, and maybe Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal. So there are reasons I would consider the Theological Bundle, but you have there twenty journals I don't care about at all. In sum, I'm not really excited about these bundles. Get NTS, NovT, JSNT, and CBQ, and I'll be clicking the Purchase button in a second.

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Kevin Maples | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 5:15 PM

Phil Gons:
Many of these are coming, but we didn't want to hold up the collection any longer. You've all been waiting long enough!

Phil, 

Logos is incredible! I don't know of any other company or product that I love like Logos (now Faithlife). I share that to put my criticism in context. It's minute compared to all of the praise I could share how many things your company does right. However, I have noticed a trend. It appears to me that Logos repeatedly launches products and ideas that are not ready, which causes frustration and confusion for customers. I'm very excited about the focus on journals, but the next time a product is launched I believe it would be a better experience for your customer base if the kinks were worked out before taking it public.

Thanks for all that you and everyone else at Logos is doing to make great Bible study resources available.  

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 5:44 PM

Phil

A quick look through the list and I notice at least two resources missing:

1.  Emmaus Journal

2.  Israel my Glory

I have not checked the whole list. But do you know if these will be in LOGOS?

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 8:27 PM

Mark Smith:
I am not interested in these very old journals. I'd prefer these be bundled separately as journals of historical interest. I don't think this collection should have any historical journals or journals that are no longer being published.

What about Bibsac, which covers the same time period up through the present? Should we also remove everything prior to, say, 1970?

The difficult thing is that some people do want older journals as well. It's challenging to build collections that have only the things that each individual customer is interested in. There's got to be a compromise somewhere. You either purchase the journals you want individually, or you purchase a collection that has some things you're not interested it, but at a better value. Sounds like the TJL Upgrade Bundle plus a few individuals might be the best fit for your needs.

Mark Smith:
(I count 11 journals that do not go back before 2006.) Is there a reason for this?

I might be missing something, but the reason is simple: they didn't start until 2006 or later. We have the first volume and beyond. Notice how most of them start at volume 1. For the couple that don't, they were continuations of earlier journals that went through a name change.

Mark Smith:
I wonder if you left this one out of the Theological Journal Library accidentally? Everything else here is there.

That was an oversight. Thanks.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 8:33 PM

Joseph Turner:

I'm not Catholic, but I would like to see Catholic Biblical Quarterly.

It's on our list of 700+ journals and has a priority of 1.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 8:37 PM

David Sloan:

Phil Gons:

Academic Journal Bundle

  1. Biblical Archaeologist 55–60, 6 vols. (1992–1997)
  2. Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research 285–368, 84 vols. (1992–2012)
  3. The Bulletin Series of the Near East Archaeological Society: New Series 11–58, 45 vols. (1971–2013)
  4. Critical Review of Books in Religion, 11 vols. (1988–1998)
  5. Filología Neotestamentaria 1–22, 22 vols. (1988–2009)
  6. Hugoye: Journal of Syriac Studies 1–2, 4–15, 14 vols. (1998–2012)
  7. Jewish Quarterly Review: New Series 1–13, 13 vols. (1910–1923)
  8. Journal of Biblical Literature 100–125, 26 vols. (1981–2006)
  9. Journal of Cuneiform Studies 43–64, 22 vols. (1991–2011)
  10. Journal of Hebrew Scriptures 1–4, 6–11, 10 vols. (1997–2011)
  11. Journal of Northwest Semitic Languages 1–37, 37 vols. (1975–2011)
  12. Journal of the Canadian Society for Syriac Studies 2–13, 12 vols. (2002–2013)
  13. Near Eastern Archaeology: Bulletin of the Near Eastern Archaeological Society 1–4, 6–10, 9 vols. (1958–1961, 1963–1967)
  14. Near Eastern Archaeology 61–76, 16 vols. (1998–2013)
  15. Review of Biblical Literature 1–9, 9 vols. (1998–2006)
  16. Semeia: An Experimental Journal for Biblical Criticism 1–91, 91 vols. (1974–2002)

As a New Testament professor, the absence of New Testament Studies, Novum Testamentum, and Journal for the Study of the New Testament is glaring. (Of course the OT equivalents are also missing.) Also no Catholic Biblical Quarterly, Harvard Theological Review, Journal of Theological Studies.

I understand that. What I have here is just what's currently available. We definitely hope to make it better over time. I'm sorry it's not stronger right now.

David Sloan:
You've seen my Top 20, which did not include JBL only because it was a list of what you did not already have available, but JBL and Semeia are the only journals I particularly care about in this list. So though I consider myself more of the SBL type, I am only excited about two of the sixteen journals you offer. I also am interested in BBR (which is why I bought TJL 15, which gave me the whole set), JETS, and Tyndale Bulletin. Slightly intriguing to me are Bibliotheca Sacra, Trinity Journal, Journal of Theological Interpretation, and maybe Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal. So there are reasons I would consider the Theological Bundle, but you have there twenty journals I don't care about at all. In sum, I'm not really excited about these bundles. Get NTS, NovT, JSNT, and CBQ, and I'll be clicking the Purchase button in a second.

Sounds like the best approach for you might be to hand pick just the ones you're interested in. We'll have them all go up on Pre-Pub individually shortly.

Maybe in a year or two we'll have more compelling bundles that will meet your needs.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 8:40 PM

Kevin Maples:

Phil Gons:
Many of these are coming, but we didn't want to hold up the collection any longer. You've all been waiting long enough!

Phil, 

Logos is incredible! I don't know of any other company or product that I love like Logos (now Faithlife). I share that to put my criticism in context. It's minute compared to all of the praise I could share how many things your company does right. However, I have noticed a trend. It appears to me that Logos repeatedly launches products and ideas that are not ready, which causes frustration and confusion for customers. I'm very excited about the focus on journals, but the next time a product is launched I believe it would be a better experience for your customer base if the kinks were worked out before taking it public.

Thanks for all that you and everyone else at Logos is doing to make great Bible study resources available.  

Thanks, Kevin. I completely agree. I apologize that this product made it out the door in the state that it did. I should have overseen the project more carefully, and I take full responsibility for this one hitting before it was ready. We'll do better. Thanks for extended your grace to us.

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