Maximize Windows/Tiles???

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Stein Dahl | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2010 1:03 AM

Hello all,

Is it possible to just "maximize" a Window or tile, or even a specific book? 

I'm not talking about opening it in a floating window.

That's neat and all, but I would like the ability to actually "maximize" any whole Tile (with several books open) or any individual book I have open (even if it's in a tile with other books).

I would like to be able to "maximize' it and then restore it to where it came from in my layout. 

We had this capability in L3, at least with respect to Tiles. 

The way it's done in L4 - with floating windows and all - just seems counter-intuitive for people used to the "Windows" way of doing things.

Is this being addressed?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2010 1:15 AM

You're right, it is missing this standard Windows functionality, I'm sure intentionally, but I agree that it is a lack which should be addressed in a future version.

However, in the meantime, you can maximize a book tile by dragging it to the full width of the screen when (this works whether you have multiple books tiled together or just one); you just can't restore it to where it came from.

Most of the time, I imagine, if you wanted to return to not being maximized, one of the standard tilings on the Layout menu would be sufficient for you. The Layout Management video is quite useful.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2010 3:52 AM

Rosie Perera:

You're right, it is missing this standard Windows functionality, I'm sure intentionally, but I agree that it is a lack which should be addressed in a future version.

However, in the meantime, you can maximize a book tile by dragging it to the full width of the screen when (this works whether you have multiple books tiled together or just one); you just can't restore it to where it came from.

Most of the time, I imagine, if you wanted to return to not being maximized, one of the standard tilings on the Layout menu would be sufficient for you. The Layout Management video is quite useful.

You can use <F11> to enter "Reading Mode" and <F11> to return to its previous state.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2010 7:00 AM

George Somsel:
You can use <F11> to enter "Reading Mode" and <F11> to return to its previous state.

 

Obviously none of us know what is happening Logos tech support, but I would bet that departing from the windows standard would increase the number of people calling and asking or having to come to this forum to ask. Why not just put the little buttons on the windows like almost every other Windows program out there?

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2010 7:06 AM

Kevin A. Purcell:
Obviously none of us know what is happening Logos tech support, but I would bet that departing from the windows standard would increase the number of people calling and asking or having to come to this forum to ask. Why not just put the little buttons on the windows like almost every other Windows program out there?

I wouldn't like little buttons clogging up the tabs, but I wouldn't mind some more right click options to maximize a pane.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2010 9:49 AM

Kevin Becker:
I wouldn't like little buttons clogging up the tabs, but I wouldn't mind some more right click options to maximize a pane.

This was my biggest complaint with v. 4. I want a program that runs on Windows (my preferred platform) to look like a Windows program. I know everyone wants us to believe that all the cool kids in school are moving to Mac. But I'm not. I keep looking at Macs and playing with them at Best Buy and a friends and I keep wondering, "Why do so many people think this is better?" But that's just me.

So not having basic Windows functionality is a minus for me. And this is one of the most basic.

Anonymous | | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2010 11:05 AM

Kevin took the words right out of my mouth. In fact I think I said something like "windows programs should look like windows programs" before.

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2010 11:41 AM

Kevin A. Purcell:

Why not just put the little buttons on the windows like almost every other Windows program out there?

Yes +1

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Aaron Boydston | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2010 5:57 AM

Yes, I agree!!!  I use a netbook with a small screen and having more than 2 tiles at a time is just not usable.

I wish the tiles could all be maximized like windows and then switch from "window" to "window."  Full screen reading is not the same b/c it does not allow switching "windows" and it changes the formatting of the tile that is maximized and hides menus.

Floating windows is not the same either b/c they became a little "disjointed" from the main program window.  For example, there is no way to use floating windows as a default and ,sometimes, newly opened books do not open in a floating window when they would have if the floating window had been a docked tile.

This would be great!

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2010 6:14 AM

Kevin A. Purcell:
So not having basic Windows functionality is a minus for me. And this is one of the most basic.

Are we dealing with windows or panes with tabs here? I consider it to be the latter. Some may say this is just a sematic difference but I disagree; Logos' panes behave very differently from windows (I can't place them in the center of the screen for instance). Yes, Libronix managed things in windows. Personally, I like the new system much better. If I want to maximize something I can just float it and it's easy enough to put it back when I want to "restore it"

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Stephen Thorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2010 6:37 AM

I'm sorry if  I'm stating the obvious, but pressing F11 maximises whichever tab is currently being looked at, taking it into 'reading mode' (you press F11 again to minismise), since one can really only look at one traditionally maximised window at a time I'm not sure what the difference is.

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Stephen Thorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2010 8:19 AM

I just want to add to this - if you have several tabs to a tile and you press F11 the current tab maximises but if you hover over the top of the screen the remaining tabs which are hidden pop into view allowing you to navigate between them.

Hope this helps! Smile

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Gary O'Neal | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2010 9:19 AM

Stephen Thorp:
if you hover over the top of the screen the remaining tabs which are hidden pop into view allowing you to navigate between them.

Thanks for the tip, Stephen. I hadn't found that.

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Aaron Boydston | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2010 1:52 PM

Stephen Thorp:

I'm sorry if  I'm stating the obvious, but pressing F11 maximises whichever tab is currently being looked at, taking it into 'reading mode' (you press F11 again to minismise), since one can really only look at one traditionally maximised window at a time I'm not sure what the difference is.

Reading view (F11) is different than being able to maximize all the tiles, each with its respective tabs, and quickly switching from one tile to another.  Reading view only maximizes the current tile and hides the menu, command bar, etc.  To get to everything else, you have to go out of reading view.

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Stephen Thorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2010 3:19 PM

Aaron Boydston:
Reading view (F11) is different than being able to maximize all the tiles, each with its respective tabs, and quickly switching from one tile to another.  Reading view only maximizes the current tile and hides the menu, command bar, etc.  To get to everything else, you have to go out of reading view.

Thanks Aaron, but I don't quite think you have understood the second part of my response. Yes, Reading view as explained above maximises the current tab, but other tabs although hidden are available because they become visible when you hover over the top edge of your screen - as many tabs as you have opened become accessible as the tabs drop into view from the top of the screen allowing you to switch from one tab to another - which is very similar to a  traditional maximised  screen in windows - but what you can't do is switch between tiles, but I didn't say it was perfect I was just trying to help our thread leader.

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Aaron Boydston | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2010 5:26 AM

Stephen Thorp:

Thanks Aaron, but I don't quite think you have understood the second part of my response. Yes, Reading view as explained above maximises the current tab, but other tabs although hidden are available because they become visible when you hover over the top edge of your screen - as many tabs as you have opened become accessible as the tabs drop into view from the top of the screen allowing you to switch from one tab to another - which is very similar to a  traditional maximised  screen in windows - but what you can't do is switch between tiles, but I didn't say it was perfect I was just trying to help our thread leader.

Yes, exactly!  Switching between tiles is very important for me.  It is my itty bitty screen that makes this a big deal for me (1024x600 netbook).  I appreciate the input!

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