New Feature: Journals Section

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Jonathan J Watson | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Oct 24 2014 2:05 PM

What is it?

The new Journals section lets you search the journals collections you own for Bible references and topics. With this new tool you can run a Passage Guide or Sermon Starter Guide report and get the most concise and up-to-date information from your journals collections then organize your results by journal or by year. 

How does it work? 

Put the finishing touches on your next research paper with insight from a scholarly article, discover what’s driving today’s leading theological discussions, and get the most up-to-date biblical research from some of the most respected pastors and scholars. Search your journals with ease with the new Journals Section.

 

How do I get it? 

Full functionality for this feature is only available in Gold level base packages and higher

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Simon | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 28 2014 3:42 AM

Nice feature, but showing only a fraction of the relevant journal articles.

For example, when I do a passage guide on John 15:1–8, the Journal section shows 2 articles. I have also a collection tab in the Passage Guide with journals, which shows many, many more relevant articles for this passage.

(I have a large library with a lot of journals in it, Logos 6 Reformed Gold, and indexing was finished)

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 28 2014 7:36 AM

Simon:

Nice feature, but showing only a fraction of the relevant journal articles.

IIRC this is a known issue and is actively being repaired.  

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 28 2014 7:47 AM

Simon, the difference lies in how each search is performed. In the Journals section, the search looks for Labels that Logos has added to Journals. These labels better define the content of the journal article with the goal of producing fewer but better focused results than a simple search for a passage gives in a collection of journals.

If you click on Search All Journals at the bottom of the journals section you'll see the search syntax (something like: {Label Journal Article WHERE References ~ <Bible Phil 2:5–11>}). This is significantly different from what is searched for in your collections section (<BibleNASB95 Phil 2:5–11>). The latter finds any reference to the passage. Such references can be in footnotes and lists of references in articles that have little or nothing to do with the text you are interested in.  (You can of course narrow the text you search to eliminate some of this).

So this new section is not meant to return the same results.

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Eli Evans (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 28 2014 7:55 AM

Mark Smith:
So this new section is not meant to return the same results.

Put simply: A Collections section set to search journals will return all mentions of the key passage, but the new Journals section will return only articles that are about the key passage. Fewer results, but much more targeted.

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Jonathan Haas | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 28 2014 9:44 AM

Simon:

Nice feature, but showing only a fraction of the relevant journal articles.

Additionally, tagging all of these journals in the new format will take some time. As more and more journal articles are updated to this new format, you will continue to see more and more results. However, the change in tagging will not change the results that you see in your Collections search, as that is a different search syntax.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 1:28 AM

I did a test to see how much tagging has been done so far. Not much:

I have 819 journal issues in my library. I created a Guide template with only a Journals section in it and ran it on Gen-Rev, but it turned up only a handful of articles:

  • Biblical Archaeologist (2 articles) - I have 38 issues
  • Conspectus (3 articles) - I have 5 issues
  • Journal of Biblical Apologetics (3 articles) - 9 issues
  • Journal of Biblical Literature (278 articles) - 26 issues
  • Journal of Dispensational Theology (3 articles) - 3
  • Journal of Hebrew Scriptures (2 articles) - 11
  • Journal of Northwest Semitic Languages (2 articles) - 13
  • Journal of Theological Interpretation (19 articles) - 6
  • Priscilla Papers (25 articles) - 24
  • Themelios (11 articles) - 115

Looking forward to more tagging being done. This is going to be an awesome feature!

I'd also love to see a way of tagging book chapters/sections that are about a Scripture passage as opposed to just mentioning it too. Any plans for that? Or is that something we can do ourselves with the new Community Tagging feature? Isn't it likely to become a free-for-all if we try to coordinate community tagging of passages about Scripture references in all of Logos's catalogue? Inconsistencies in quality, etc.?

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Jonathan Haas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 8:53 AM

Rosie Perera:

I created a Guide template with only a Journals section in it and ran it on Gen-Rev, but it turned up only a handful of articles:

I'd also love to see a way of tagging book chapters/sections that are about a Scripture passage as opposed to just mentioning it too. Any plans for that? Or is that something we can do ourselves with the new Community Tagging feature? Isn't it likely to become a free-for-all if we try to coordinate community tagging of passages about Scripture references in all of Logos's catalogue? Inconsistencies in quality, etc.?

We tag Journal Articles two ways--by Bible reference and by Topic, so doing a search on every scripture reference may not have returned every result. I agree most (if not all) should have a scripture reference eventually, but that may not be the case at this time. This may also solve your question about the articles that are about a certain topic, rather than a specific reference. 

If you are looking to search through specific tags, I would recommend our Label feature described here, as it will be more specific (if not as comprehensive) as the community tags: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/92624.aspx

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 10:19 AM

What are some good (conservative) journals available in Logos?  I've never really looked that much into journals, but this new feature has caught my interest.

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Ray from Faithlife | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 10:31 AM

David Taylor Jr:
What are some good (conservative) journals available in Logos?

Conservative Theological Journal ?

Depends a little on your definition of conservative, but I like:

 

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 10:40 AM

I think you'd find that the older Galaxie journal collections are primarily from conservative colleges and seminaries. They were marketed by Logos as "The Theological Journal Library Volumes 1-15" until recently. Seemingly as part of their response to user requests that they continue to offer annual updates to those journals they have simply removed them from their web site and priced the journals individually. If there was an emoticon for disgust I'd insert one here.

The Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society, Bibliotheca Sacra (Dallas Seminary), Review and Expositor, Tyndale Bulletin, Themelios, and The Westminster Theological Journal would be good starting points. I don't think Logos has tagged these yet so that they work in the Journals section.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 10:45 AM

David Taylor Jr:

What are some good (conservative) journals available in Logos?  I've never really looked that much into journals, but this new feature has caught my interest.



Bibliotheca Sacra (dallas theological seminary - dispensational)

Southeastern and southern baptist theological seminaries have their own journals, both of which I like.

The Masters Seminary (MacArthur) has a journal that I like as well.

Themelios

Table Talk.

Tyndale is decent as well.

There are bunches... But even the journals you disagree with can be beneficial to your study.


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Liz Licata | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 10:52 AM

As to the number of journal articles listed, I'm still working my way through the tagging. More results will show up soon :)

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 10:55 AM

Elizabeth Licata:
More results will show up soon :)

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 11:44 AM

abondservant:

David Taylor Jr:

What are some good (conservative) journals available in Logos?  I've never really looked that much into journals, but this new feature has caught my interest.



Bibliotheca Sacra (dallas theological seminary - dispensational)

Southeastern and southern baptist theological seminaries have their own journals, both of which I like.

The Masters Seminary (MacArthur) has a journal that I like as well.

Themelios

Table Talk.

Tyndale is decent as well.

There are bunches... But even the journals you disagree with can be beneficial to your study.


Thanks for the list, and your last line is a great point!

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 9 2014 8:22 AM

Gen-Rev

Biblical Archaeologist (2 Articles) i have 59 vols

Bulletin of American Schools of Oriental Research (1 Article) i have 78 vols

Journal of Biblical Apologetics (1 Article) i have 4 vols

Themelios (11 Articles ) i have 116 vols

No results in the following:

Christian History Magazine i have 99 vols

Journal of Modern Ministry i have 17 vols

Evangelical Review of Theology i have  30 vols

Master's Seminary Journal i have 18 vols

I wanted to use the New Feature in guides for Journals but this needs alot of work... 

 What is the best way to try and use this Feature, i tried to look at the book of Mark and i get No Results. Can someone help me with this?

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 9 2014 8:25 AM

I do believe its something they are continually working on.

I've seen a number of journals update since L6 released.

I typed in rapture, and got the following:

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 9 2014 9:22 AM

Lee:
I wanted to use the New Feature in guides for Journals but this needs alot of work... 

The journals have to receive additional markup to make this work. At least 485 resources have received at least some of that markup (that's the count in my library), but only 128 of those resources have Scripture markup.

That's mainly because lots of the journal articles don't deal with specific passages, and that's all the journal section is designed to show. If you want to broaden the search to include articles that just mention the passage, then add a Collections section to do that.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 9 2014 9:43 AM

Thanks Mark but could you show me how to do that?

Btw are you planing any L6 training videos, your L5 one was great!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 9 2014 2:46 PM

Lee:
Thanks Mark but could you show me how to do that?

(1) If you don't already have one, create a new collection called Theological Journals, using the rule type:journal.

(2) Copy the existing Guide, by clicking in it's menu and choosing Edit Guide Template.

(3) Remove any sections you don't want, by clicking on the cross. Re-order things if you want.

(4) Drag Collections from the left hand side to your preferred place on the right. Perhaps just below the existing journals section.

(5) In that new section, click on the dropdown that says All Resources. Select the Theological Journals collection you created in (1).

(6) Give the guide a name. If you want it as your default passage guide, call it My Passage Guide.

That's it. Now, when you run that guide you'll get highly accurate (but not plentiful) results in the journals section, and less accurate but more plentiful results in the Collections section.

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