Updated Feature: Notes

Todd Bishop
Todd Bishop Member, Logos Employee Posts: 18
edited November 20 in English Forum

What is it?

The updated notes feature now offers spellchecking, allows you to attach a single note to multiple references across the Bible, add tags to notes, and also allows you to add a note to data like Greek lemmas.

How does it work?

  • Spell checking can be turned on via Program Settings, by toggling “Check Spelling While Typing” to Yes.
  • The language can be changed for your current selection via the Globe icon in the Rich Text toolbar.
  • Right-clicking a misspelled word will suggest correct spellings, or you can add the selected word to the current language’s dictionary.

Added Quotes view for Notes, which shows the resource content of long highlights, grouped by resource.
Notes now support multiple attachment points:

  • Attachment points can be added by clicking the arrow next to the Note, and selecting “Edit attachment points”
  • This method allows you to select points by entering a reference, or by selecting text and clicking “Attach to current selection”
  • Notes can be attached to lemmas, people, etc.

Tags can be added to a note by clicking the arrow next to the note and selecting "Add tag".

How do I get it?

Notes is available in all Crossgrades and all Base Package levels

«1

Comments

  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the spell check!! Been waiting for this.

  • David Taylor, Jr.
    David Taylor, Jr. Member Posts: 4,326 ✭✭✭

    Call me crazy, but this might actually be the best new feature in L6!  I have wanted spell check for years!

  • Andy
    Andy Member Posts: 2,282

    I have wanted spell check for years!

    I agree that this is very useful.

    Also check out the ability to attach notes to multiple verses (via multiple attachments).

    For years, I have found myself replicating notes wholesale (where a comment applies to a number of verses). With this feature, we can attach a single note to multiple places. 

    And the spelling is bang on. [:D]

  • Geo Philips
    Geo Philips Member Posts: 398 ✭✭

    How does Highlighting work? Does it still do the crazy attach to palette note thing or choose another note per palette?

    I find that so annoying. I want to highlight and not be tied down to a note or have to think about it.

  • David Taylor, Jr.
    David Taylor, Jr. Member Posts: 4,326 ✭✭✭

    How does Highlighting work? Does it still do the crazy attach to palette note thing or choose another note per palette?

    I find that so annoying. I want to highlight and not be tied down to a note or have to think about it.

    I'm not sure I understand your question.

  • Kamira Rea
    Kamira Rea Member, Logos Employee Posts: 45

    How does Highlighting work?

    No change to highlighting, still works as it did in Logos 5.

  • Todd Bishop
    Todd Bishop Member, Logos Employee Posts: 18

    Highlighting functions the same way in L6, showing up in the visual filter menu under notes and are sharable documents. In addition, we've created a new highlighting system called label entry, which allows you to mark your text with rich metadata that is also searchable. 

    https://community.logos.com/forums/t/92624.aspx

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Notes now support multiple attachment points:

    • Attachment points can be added by clicking the arrow next to the Note, and selecting “Edit attachment points”
    • This method allows you to select points by entering a reference, or by selecting text and clicking “Attach to current selection”

    Since I can't study the packages or explore the software, let me ask about this instead (which I am very happy about, btw). 

    The probably most common reason for me to want a note attached to several Bible verses is when there are Synoptic or other parallels. An intelligent comment on Matthew does me no good if I'm reading the same pericope in Mark or Luke. Thus:

    • Where I have already made separate but identical notes for each parallel, what will be the easiest way to transform them into one multi-attached note?

    • For the future, may I suggest you include an option that automatically suggests parallels and lets us check the ones we want to attach the note to.

    • An option that automatically attaches the note to all verses mentioned in the note would also be very useful, as would an option that attaches it to all verses in a particular Passage List.

    • Can this be used to change a Selection note to a Reference note? 

    Notes can be attached to lemmas, people, etc.

    • Here I would like the option to automatically attach it to a particular lemma or person in all verses found in a PL or a Search. 

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    Where I have already made separate but identical notes for each parallel, what will be the easiest way to transform them into one multi-attached note

    Sorry, you'll have to open each one, merge them into one, and then edit the attachment points.  The last part of which is incredibly simple.  They did a good job on this.  The hard part is de-duplicating your notes.

    Can this be used to change a Selection note to a Reference note? 

    Yes you can right click on a highlight, select "Open annotations", then add an attachment point, insert a note indicator in the process and you're golden. 

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Eli Evans (Logos)
    Eli Evans (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,402

    • Where I have already made separate but identical notes for each parallel, what will be the easiest way to transform them into one multi-attached note?

    Delete all but one, then attach it to all the multiple points.

    In the following example, I have one note I want to attach to "in the beginning" in Ge 1:1 and Jn 1:1. Let's say I had a doppelganger at Jn 1:1 that first deleted. Now, on the remaining Ge 1:1, I use the "Edit attachment points" command in the pull-down menu that appears in the upper-right corner of a note on hover.

    Then, since I want to attach this note to another selection, I navigate to Jn 1:1, make that selection and choose "Attach to current selection."

    If you're attaching to several selections, you can leave the note in 'edit attachments' mode and attach as many selections/references as you need, then hit "Done."

    • Can this be used to change a Selection note to a Reference note? 

    Yes, or both..

    • Where I have already made separate but identical notes for each parallel, what will be the easiest way to transform them into one multi-attached note?

    • For the future, may I suggest you include an option that automatically suggests parallels and lets us check the ones we want to attach the note to.

    • An option that automatically attaches the note to all verses mentioned in the note would also be very useful, as would an option that attaches it to all verses in a particular Passage List

    • Here I would like the option to automatically attach it to a particular lemma or person in all verses found in a PL or a Search. 

    Good suggestions, all. I've logged them for future consideration.

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Thanks. And I'm happy for those people who come to the forums wondering why their hundreds of notes don't show up in all Bibles. At least now we'll have something slightly better to tell them than "You'll have to remake all of them". 

    On that note (pun intended): please tell me that you've finally made click>shift-click and click>Cmd-click work in note files, so that one can move or change multiple notes at once?

    I'm also wondering about

    The language can be changed for your current selection via the Globe icon in the Rich Text toolbar.

    I don't care so much about the spell-check, but does this mean that I can use English Bible abbreviations in English notes, and Swedish Bible abbreviations in Swedish notes, and get auto-links for both, even if they are in the same note file?

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Alan Palmer (Logos)
    Alan Palmer (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,080

    I don't care so much about the spell-check, but does this mean that I can use English Bible abbreviations in English notes, and Swedish Bible abbreviations in Swedish notes, and get auto-links for both, even if they are in the same note file?

    That's a great suggestion. But no, that is not currently possible.

  • Ward Walker
    Ward Walker Member Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭

    I hit the maximum limit of highlights that Logos 5 could handle per note file, and have been struggling ever since, having to generate more and more note files...without any management tools to automatically fragment those larger old files.  If it wasn't for a server mod that Bradley did, I wouldn't even be able to sync Logos 5 anymore.  A related issue is the mobile app (iOS) can't handle these large files, and it just crashes as it tries to load them.

    I say all that to ask: Has Logos 6 "fixed" this problem?  

  • Keith Larson
    Keith Larson Member Posts: 1,133

    I hit the maximum limit of highlights that Logos 5 could handle per note file, and have been struggling ever since, having to generate more and more note files...without any management tools to automatically fragment those larger old files.  If it wasn't for a server mod that Bradley did, I wouldn't even be able to sync Logos 5 anymore.  A related issue is the mobile app (iOS) can't handle these large files, and it just crashes as it tries to load them.

    I say all that to ask: Has Logos 6 "fixed" this problem?  

    Logos may I suggest you add the book, "How to Read a Book". Ware seems to need help on how to effectively highlight and take notes on what he reads.[:D]

  • Jonathan Sine
    Jonathan Sine Member Posts: 453

    Can I export the full quoted highlight? I see where I can view them. But when I try to export, they are truncated?

    Jonathan Sine

    Pastor - Squamish Baptist Church

    2 Cor. 4.6

  • Eli Evans (Logos)
    Eli Evans (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,402

    On that note (pun intended): please tell me that you've finally made click>shift-click and click>Cmd-click work in note files, so that one can move or change multiple notes at once?

    I wish. We imagined some bulk-editing designs that would have required a more extensive reworking than we were able to bite off and chew this time around.

  • toughski
    toughski Member Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭

    For the future, may I suggest you include an option that automatically suggests parallels and lets us check the ones we want to attach the note to

    awesome idea!

  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭

    Hey Eli,

    Can we also add underline feature into the Notes?

  • Randy W. Sims
    Randy W. Sims Member Posts: 2,272

    Can we also add underline feature into the Notes?

    Ctrl-u

    Don't know why there's no button.

  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭

    Whoaa.. thanks buddy.

    I didn't know we could do that.. is this like an un-announced feature of L6?

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle Member, MVP Posts: 32,429 ✭✭✭

    I didn't know we could do that.. is this like an un-announced feature of L6?

    Being able to underline with a shortcut - but there being no button - has been around for a long time.

    See https://wiki.logos.com/Notes#Rich_Text_keyboard_shortcuts for a fuller list of notes shortcuts (and this info is also available in Logos help)

    But I agree it seems strange that there isn't an underline button!

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

    But I agree it seems strange that there isn't an underline button!

    I guess that it is because underlining on the screen tends to obscure text rather than enhance or emphasise it. You can see how, without controls on how far the underline is below the text it tends to blur the base of characters  and as you move to a second line the tops of characters get visually confused.

    With a computer usually Bold is a better option for emphasis, Italic is another option (in most cases changing the colour would be available  :-) all without the legibility problems of underlining. Which is still there for those that want it but masked for those who should not be encouraged to use it.

    tootle pip

    Mike

    How to get logs and post them.   (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle Member, MVP Posts: 32,429 ✭✭✭

    But yet an underline button is standard in rich text editing applications on Windows as well as Pages on iPad (I don't know about word processing software on Mac)

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭

    I hit the maximum limit of highlights that Logos 5 could handle per note file

    Wow. That's impressive. I didn't even know that could be done.

    You should apply for a job as a speech writer for Senators who plan to do a filibuster. [:)]

    Eating a steady diet of government cheese, and living in a van down by the river.

  • Ward Walker
    Ward Walker Member Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭

    I hit the maximum limit of highlights that Logos 5 could handle per note file

    Wow. That's impressive. I didn't even know that could be done.

    You should apply for a job as a speech writer for Senators who plan to do a filibuster. Smile

    The full story of how big a note file could get:

    https://community.logos.com/forums/p/86349/612816.aspx#612816 

    You can now get bigger, but Logos really recommends you don't.  I'm hoping to see some advanced Highlight file management features so moving highlights between files isn't massively manual.

  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭
  • toughski
    toughski Member Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭

    Quick Question: can one Print/Export notes in L6?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

    Can we have a button for underline please?

    Cmd+U

    tootle pip

    Mike

    How to get logs and post them.   (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • Whyndell Grizzard
    Whyndell Grizzard Member Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭

    This is a step in the right direction- the need for a workable "notes" function has been a long time coming- thanks for the effort.

    Three things- an "undo" option, a print function and a email function, just saying would be nice :)