Why "Rework notes function" is completed

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Nov 27 2014 12:16 PM

The “Rework notes function” suggestion is over 3½ years old. When it was created, Logos 4.2a was the latest version of the software. Since then, we’ve released two major versions of Logos and dozens of minor updates (“one or multiple phases”? Smile) containing thousands of improvements. Many of those improvements have been in Notes.

Now that a lot of the individual items have been implemented, the “rework notes" suggestion has served its purpose: we know (and won’t forget) that Notes are important to many customers. But with 60+ individual items in this suggestion (and more in its comments!), we don’t actually know what’s most important to you. We need to prioritise what we work on, and we need you to prioritise your votes for the features that are most important to you.

I’m “Completing” the suggestion so that your votes are returned and you can use them to vote for the specific features you really want.

Below I’ve categorized the individual suggestions (that I saw) into four main groups:

  • Completed in Logos 6 — these features have already been implemented in Logos 6 (or an earlier release); reminder: the free Logos 6 engine will be available to all customers on 3 February 2015.
  • Already Have Suggestions — these already have suggestions on UserVoice; you can add votes to the existing items.
  • Could Be Created As New Suggestions — I couldn’t find an existing suggestion for this; you’re welcome to create a new one. Please create one UserVoice item per suggestion so that 1 vote = 1 idea.
  • Need More Detail — I’m really not sure what this suggestion means. If you create a new suggestion for it, we’ll need more detail to understand it. (Or it might already have been implemented.)

Finally, there are existing UserVoice suggestions that weren’t already covered; I’ve provided some links at the bottom.

Note: In the future, “bag of ideas” UserVoice suggestions for Notes are likely to be closed with a link to this post. It’s better overall if there’s a single idea per UserVoice suggestion so that 1 vote = 1 idea.


Completed in Logos 6
  • allow a note to be attached to multiple passages - with the note icon appearing on each passage
  • allow links to the web
  • permit notes to be attached to a lemma
  • permit notes to be attached to a liturgical date
  • allow colored text in Notes
  • allow underlined text in Notes
  • sort sequences: canon
  • sort sequences: created date
  • sort sequences: last modified date
  • sort sequences: user note title
  • permit more note icon colors (at least match L3)
  • allow tags on all notes and a search on those tags
  • allow table of contents similar to L3
  • Implement parity for Mac version
  • include spell checker in notes
  • improve the performance: keyboard entry, long notes and note files
  • allow the sharing of notes between users
  • use right click rather than red x for delete
  • It is far too easy to click the red circle "Deletion" X's for individual notes
  • When right click on a Highlighted word, please add Edit Annotation and Open Annotation while keeping Remove Annotation. Open Annotation would position note file to annotation plus open note file, if needed.
Already Have Suggestions Could Be Created As A New Suggestion
  • allow links to Logos 6 documents (sentence diagrams, vocabulary lists, etc.)
  • allow links to local files (PDF, MP3, PowerPoint, etc.)
  • permit notes to be attached to a search string
  • sort sequences: highlighting
  • sort sequences: remember sequence function (allow temporary)
  • sort sequences: set priority for sort ket values (example: liturgical year)
  • integrate a journaling feature - a note file that automatically includes date in the title and automatically sorts on date
  • layout should remember position in a note file (specific note)
  • permit drag and drop on multiple notes
  • retain "deleted" notes (and other user content) for a period of time - permitting a restore function
  • allow prioritization of files (especially notes) in "My Content" section
  • allow searching of My Content by heading
  • allow the saving of a BWS either into a Clipping or a Note
  • The ability to show at the top of the note the content highlighted or marked up when the note was made. This would make view notes in "Full" much better. Thus rather than seeing, "God's chief end...his mercy." we would see, "God's chief end in creation and redemption is to display for the benefit of his elect the fulness of his glory, especially his mercy." That to us is "full" view.
  • For note titles, please add choice to show abbreviated or complete highlighted selection.
  • Should also provide options for users to view Scriptures only, Comments only, or Both.
  • Users should be able to export the full (!?!) scripture text from Notes, as well as their references/comments ... or better yet be able to choose either or both to export. In addition, the "export Notes to raw Text Document" functionality needs to format the output better: The individual Notes in the text file should be separated by a line of "enough/obvious" dashes (i.e. "------------------") and perhaps an empty line before/after, unlike now where there are only 3 dashes or, with the "Save as Passage List" functionality, where there is no separation, not even an empty line. This improved export functionality will help me to view the raw text output files in my Kindle.
  • Within the note/highlight document, if the marked up content icon (far left) would default to the markup type used to make the note, that would make visually searching a notes file easier.
  • Add a specialized note function that allows one to "fill in" the answers in the various study guides - with the ability to toggle whether or not the answers are shown and to copy (for export or printing) with or without the answers.
  • the attachment of notes to entire resources as well, for the writing of personal reviews / comments / thoughts about the resource as a whole
  • Please add Note indicator customization options. e.g. letter(s), which could use capabilities of Logos display engine on all platforms, including superscript and subscript.
  • In Notes file, please add miniature of style used for that entry
  • Please add ability to highlight footnote text.
  • tags: standardized smart tags (which would auto-fill as you type, like library tags)
  • tags: universally rename-able (Also like Library tags)
  • tags: filter-able, With the ability to create passage lists from those filters
  • tags: visible when you hover your cursor (so you can see which tags are applied without opening the note)
  • tags: editable from mobile apps (create on mobile UserVoice)
  • Show "title" in popup (in addition to the note itself and the file in which it is contained) when hovering over icon that is attached to the text. Since a note can be either "by selection" or "by reference" there must be a flag for each note as to which it is. Seems like that flag could be used to have the pop up display content based upon the type of note.  
  • Be able to do a wholesale reset on all the icons and/or color for a given note file. — 
  • add a reporting feature which pulls all notes on a given pericope into a printable, exportable file
Need More Detail
  • allow user selection of highlight style to indicate attached note/selected text - include suppressing highlighting or show only on mouse over
  • improve input window (more like L3)
  • sequence multiple note icons on a text by standard Prioritization
  • additional formating: fine control of font size
  • ability to add notes to collections
  • automatic linking of Bible references to handle double punctuation and all standard citation abbreviations
Existing Suggestions
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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 12:31 PM

Thanks for putting this together ... and thanks for making notes truly useful.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 1:27 PM

Wow Bradley, this represents a lot of work. It is amazing to see what has been done over the past 3 1/2 years. Once a new feature is introduced it is easy to forget what it was like before.

Thanks for all your work but why are you working on Thanksgiving? Go have some turkey!

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Rick Koelz | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 2:51 PM

Thanks, Bradley. That's an impressive list. I need to spend some time exploring several of these.

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Bill Cook | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 3:53 PM

l like the new Notes in L6. Well done...

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Kenneth Neighoff | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 3:56 PM

Thanks Bradley for pointing this out.

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GregW | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 4:37 PM

Thank you Bradley, for the extensive work you've done here and for pre-empting discussion about why the request has been marked as completed! 


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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 4:44 PM

Thank you, Bradley, for taking the time to document all of that. And thank you for implementing so many of our requests.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 5:24 PM

Not having L6 yet, I can't say for certain, but if they can't do this...

...they aren't there yet. I don't ever expect them to arrive.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 6:11 PM

Mr Paul. Forum guidelines prohibit advertising or otherwise displaying competitor products in a manner not overwhelmingly positive to Logos (or its parent company Faithlife, aka Faithline).  Please control yourself.  (Yes, yes ... it's Libby!!).


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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 6:24 PM

Denise:

Mr Paul. Forum guidelines prohibit advertising or otherwise displaying competitor products in a manner not overwhelmingly positive to Logos (or its parent company Faithlife, aka Faithline).  Please control yourself.  (Yes, yes ... it's Libby!!).

It's not a product that's available for sale anymore, so it can't possibly cannibalize L6 sales. Stick out tongue

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mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 6:42 PM

Where's the dedicated "underline" button?

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Lewis Harper | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 7:14 PM

Thanks Bradley

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 7:52 PM

my

David Paul:

Not having L6 yet, I can't say for certain, but if they can't do this...

...they aren't there yet. I don't ever expect them to arrive.

L6 can't format it in that manner but it is able to do that in a slightly different manner and do more - considerably more. So Libby - bye, bye ... don't eat the dust. Stick out tongue  Wink

Yes, I do miss Libby timelines.  Crying

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David Paul:
if they can't do this...

You can vote for "Allow note to be seen when hovering over icon in Bible (not just a preview)" http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/4621001-allow-note-to-be-seen-when-hovering-over-icon-in-b 

It's got 1 vote already, only needs... a lot more.

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mike:

Where's the dedicated "underline" button?

Vote for "Add the Underline button on the Notes formatting toolbar" if you would like to see this: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/990237--add-the-underline-button-on-the-notes-formatting 

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Greg Masone | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 10:27 PM

I just added a Uservoice Suggestion for sorting notes according to the book's page numbers, or the location in the book. 

Sorting by reference only works on portions of a book with reference information. For example, I'm reading through the The Apostolic Fathers from the Fathers of the Church series and taking notes. Some of my notes are from the Introductory material written by the translators, and when I use the Sort by Reference option, it places any note in the Introduction section at the end of the note file.

Could this be a useful feature, or am I just not using the sort functions correctly or missing something?

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mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 10:37 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

mike:

Where's the dedicated "underline" button?

Vote for "Add the Underline button on the Notes formatting toolbar" if you would like to see this: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/990237--add-the-underline-button-on-the-notes-formatting 

why do we need to vote for this?? shouldn't this be standard in everything?

are you implying that the notes was released under-powered on purpose so we can vote??

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John Duffy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 28 2014 12:22 AM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
Be able to set icon/color default for a given note file (would save me a ton of mouse clicking)

Bradley, can you please explain how this works? Using L6, when I set a default note file icon/colour in a note file, it sets that globally, not for the individual note file.  When I set it in one note file the default icon/colour is then applied to other note files.  It's no different in my experience.

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John Duffy:
Using L6, when I set a default note file icon/colour in a note file, it sets that globally, not for the individual note file.  When I set it in one note file the default icon/colour is then applied to other note files.  It's no different in my experience.

I made a mistake on this one: the preference is global, not per-document. Sorry for the confusion.

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