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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 4 2015 11:57 AM

Jonas Spurlock:

Its is pretty rediculous to pay $3k for books and not have own them offline.  Tablets are todays technology, and with the capabilities available, this should be a priority. Searching and all the features is great, but for $3k i expect options to read my content offline (and not lug around my laptop!!)

Logos has always advised you to download to your mobile device only the items you need offline. I have over 7000 resources in my library and on my iPad/iPhone i have roughly 1200 items which i have been advised is more than I should have. There are plenty of devices offering you more than enough room to install all your items if you want. In the end Logos is not at fault because you bought  a device that is too small to meet your needs.

-Dan

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 4 2015 1:54 PM

Derek:
Given the financial investment and customer loyalty (ive been a customer for 15 years), yes, I absolutely think we should have a voice to say this is really important.

Please enter your suggestion on UserVoice - here are the instructions on how: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/65558.aspx 

Derek:
And regardless of faithlife supporting rooted devices, I suspect the software will still work exactly the same on a rooted device.  ;)

This is not at all true.  We've seen issues in the past with rooted devices not displaying things properly, and there are a huge number of combinations of devices and root methods.  You are welcome to try whatever you wish with your device but you will have to support it if things don't work.

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Barry Cushman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 12 2015 5:06 PM

On an android device I can download only the books I want (with no issues on a rooted phone either). However, on my windows tablet there's no app (just the standard software package), so it appears it's all or nothing as far as downloads are concerned, and it eats up most of the memory. (I have 32 GB.) Is there a way to limit local books on one windows device (the tablet) but not another (computer)?

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 13 2015 1:34 AM

Barry Cushman:

On an android device I can download only the books I want (with no issues on a rooted phone either). However, on my windows tablet there's no app (just the standard software package), so it appears it's all or nothing as far as downloads are concerned, and it eats up most of the memory. (I have 32 GB.) Is there a way to limit local books on one windows device (the tablet) but not another (computer)?

Hi Barry,

Welcome to the forums!  

The Faithlife Mobile apps (Android/iOS) are not equivalent to the Faithlife Desktop apps.  If your Windows tablet can run Logos, it is likely running the full Desktop version and in this case there isn't any distinction between a "tablet" and a "computer" - your tablet is a computer, just a very space-limited (and probably quite slow) computer.

To my knowledge the answer to your question is "no", although I'm not an expert on running Logos Desktop on Windows tablets (I'm better with the mobile apps, and this is the Android Apps forum).

If you repost to the appropriate Logos Desktop forum I hope you might receive a more favorable answer.!

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KarenCoker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 22 2016 7:12 PM

 

Help. you were able to get it to work but it didn't work for me.  Got root using odin, twrp.

Tried many different apk managers, linksd2plus and rootchecker plus as well as several other free app managers.

I granted root acces to the apps before using. None would move any part of Logos.

I called tech spport today and they said it couldn't be done and asked me to open a support case.  they did not steer me to forum.

Please describe the issue:

I have a galaxy tab s with 32 GB internal and a128 GB SD card.
I have given myself root access so that on my apps with content as well as the executable.
I want to put the logos on the internal storage and the books on the sd, much like any cloud based app.

Logos will not do this whereas I could do it with kindle, audible, music, etc. I am using linksd2plus a souped up apk mgr.  Ideas, my 32 is full and my 128 has lots of room.

I have no trouble with the app except I want to move the. Files. Maybe  I could just move them command line and then force a link to mount when I start the app. Of course I will need to find them

Karen

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 24 2016 7:20 PM

Hi Karen,

You can use the DirectoryBind app to move your library to SD.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/themes-apps/tool-directorybind-data-to-externalsd-t1410262

I can confirm that this is working. Of course, it's unsupported.

Jan

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Barry Cushman:

On an android device I can download only the books I want (with no issues on a rooted phone either). However, on my windows tablet there's no app (just the standard software package), so it appears it's all or nothing as far as downloads are concerned, and it eats up most of the memory. (I have 32 GB.) Is there a way to limit local books on one windows device (the tablet) but not another (computer)?

The Windows desktop application doesn't support selective downloading of resources. We're tracking that suggestion here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/100284.aspx 

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Corriell Brotherwood | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 31 2016 10:38 PM

Amen, if I drop $20,000 on a product I have certain expectations, Like when I make a suggestion you will happily respond by saying, "I will get on that right away sir". At this level anything else is just disrespectful and rude.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 31 2016 10:45 PM

Corriell Brotherwood:
At this level anything else is just disrespectful and rude.

I hope you are kidding as it is unrealistic to think they could do that for everyone who has > $20,000 invested. An were they to do so, those with major investments would quickly run the company into the ground with the lack of a balanced market. I am embarrassed to ever get any recognition base on the size of my deposit, investment, income ... However, if your post was intended tongue-in-cheek, welcome to the forums Yes

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Paul Unger | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 10:53 AM

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):

Donovan Neufeldt:
First, you need to root your tablet/phone

FYI, Faithlife doesn't support rooted devices.

Can you point to where Logos says they don't support rooted devices? That would be unfortunate if they didn't--rooting a device is one of the first things a number of owners do... According to the Android FAQs:

What devices support the Logos Mobile apps for Android?

The Logos Mobile apps are compatible with most Android Tablets and Phones, as long as the [sic] support the "Google Play" or "Amazon App Store" marketplaces.

As for moving resources to an SD card, I found this in the Android FAQs:

I want to buy an Android Device. What size should I buy?

Since the mobile apps access your books from the internet, there are no restrictions as to what size you have to buy in order to use the app, but some devices may require a "microSD" card to install applications.

So, as far as Logos is concerned, there's some reason for having a "microSD" card...

For what it's worth, I moved Logos to my SD card by doing:

Settings > Applications > Manage Applications, select Bible from the list > Move to SD card

Android 2.3.4 (Gingerbread) / Logos 4.3.9

Paul

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 11:17 AM

Paul Unger:

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):

Donovan Neufeldt:
First, you need to root your tablet/phone

FYI, Faithlife doesn't support rooted devices.

Can you point to where Logos says they don't support rooted devices? That would be unfortunate if they didn't--rooting a device is one of the first things a number of owners do...

Yes, as a Faithlife Employee I mentioned it back in 2012 here on the forums (and in many other places on these forums):  https://community.logos.com/forums/p/58064/418402.aspx#418402 

You can root your device if you wish but we don't officially support rooted devices (either Android or iOS). 

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Paul Unger | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 12:56 PM

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):

Paul Unger:

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):

Donovan Neufeldt:
First, you need to root your tablet/phone

FYI, Faithlife doesn't support rooted devices.

Can you point to where Logos says they don't support rooted devices? That would be unfortunate if they didn't--rooting a device is one of the first things a number of owners do...

Yes, as a Faithlife Employee I mentioned it back in 2012 here on the forums (and in many other places on these forums):  https://community.logos.com/forums/p/58064/418402.aspx#418402 

You can root your device if you wish but we don't officially support rooted devices (either Android or iOS). 

If it's "official", Logos might want to think about making an official statement about that somewhere (i.e., not buried in the user forums...). And also state what a lack of support means, e.g., can't run the app at all, can run the app but can't sync 'Notes' (for example; just picking something out of the air), can run the app and everything should work but we can't help if something goes wrong.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 1:33 PM

Paul Unger:
If it's "official", Logos might want to think about making an official statement about that somewhere (i.e., not buried in the user forums...). And also state what a lack of support means, e.g., can't run the app at all, can run the app but can't sync 'Notes' (for example; just picking something out of the air), can run the app and everything should work but we can't help if something goes wrong.

We've updated this page: https://www.logos.com/support/android/faqs  

Unsupported means you are on your own if anything in the app (whatsoever) doesn't work on a rooted device. If something doesn't work on a rooted device that also doesn't work on a supported device, that's a bug that we want to fix.

Incidentally, we dropped support for anything below Android 4.x quite a while ago.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 2:25 PM

Confused - if LOGOS cannot install to a micro SD Card, why is this statement in the FAQ? 

Can the apps sometimes be installed to a micro SD Card? 

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 2:33 PM

Floyd Johnson:
Confused - if LOGOS cannot install to a micro SD Card, why is this statement in the FAQ? 

Some Android devices may require a microSD card to be present before any applications can be installed (not just the Logos apps).  The FAQ doesn't imply or infer that our apps can sometimes be installed to a microSD card, or that Logos resources can be moved to an SD card.

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Paul Unger | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 2:44 PM

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):

Paul Unger:
If it's "official", Logos might want to think about making an official statement about that somewhere (i.e., not buried in the user forums...). And also state what a lack of support means, e.g., can't run the app at all, can run the app but can't sync 'Notes' (for example; just picking something out of the air), can run the app and everything should work but we can't help if something goes wrong.

We've updated this page: https://www.logos.com/support/android/faqs  

Unsupported means you are on your own if anything in the app (whatsoever) doesn't work on a rooted device. If something doesn't work on a rooted device that also doesn't work on a supported device, that's a bug that we want to fix.

Appreciate you clarifying that.

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):
Incidentally, we dropped support for anything below Android 4.x quite a while ago.

Painfully aware of that... I'm looking for help finding v. 4.3.9 that I can install on an Android 2.3 phone (https://community.logos.com/forums/t/122471.aspx). I installed Logos on one of my phones a while back (from the Play Store) and it works great as a Bible reader (which is all I want on the phone), but since the phone is not rooted I can't find the apk to put it on my second phone (which I want to take overseas with me on a translation checking trip next week). If I go to Play Store I'm told, "Your device isn't compatible with this version."

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 3:37 PM

We don't publish unsupported versions of our apps, although you might find another user that can give you the apk.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 5:46 PM

Paul,

You can download from here:

http://downloads.logos.com/Android/Logos/stable/Logos-287.apk

Better hurry before FL staff realizes the file is still available, and take it offline Wink

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Paul Unger | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 3 2016 9:11 AM

Jan Krohn:

Paul,

You can download from here:

http://downloads.logos.com/Android/Logos/stable/Logos-287.apk

Better hurry before FL staff realizes the file is still available, and take it offline Wink

Thank you, Jan!

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Pendeta | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 8 2016 4:59 PM

I agree!  I have been a logos cx since version 1 and have spent a similarly a  large investment in scholar pack, additional books, bibles, commentaries, uprades and to not have the ability to put books on the sd card is rediculous.  There are now many other digital works, programs out there now at a lot less money.  Looks like you Logos/Faithlife could put a little effort into this program feature.  Many of us do not want to be connected to a cloud all the time and cannot be especially 2hen using the mobile version.

Please consider making this a priority as mentioned above.

Also, when speaking about the desktop version allowing to store the books in other location's like it was possible to do in earlier versions.

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