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  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    [quote user="John Goodman"]Wow... Forum rules?[/quote] The last time I checked, are users of Logos Software required to used this forum? George may need a time out.
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Mon, Nov 9 2015
  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    [quote user="John Goodman"] Faithlife has not made clear to it's customers what Logos Now is and how it relates to Logos 7... it is not surprising we are discussing the relationship between the two products. [/quote] Is Bob willing to give an official statement explaining what " Logos Now is and how it relates to Logos 7" and at the same time clear
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Mon, Nov 9 2015
  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"] your reasonable statement caused me such distress. Nearly everyone will take it with the meaning you intended. [/quote] Do tell. Is there another thread or email where you can express yourself?
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Mon, Nov 9 2015
  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    [quote user="Super.Tramp"] Just so long as you remember this. Bob is under no obligation to follow your suggestions.[/quote] Have no fear, no one needs to worry that I would have more influence on Bob than they do. He who holds the "gold" don't usually listen to many other souls. Here is proof I know the difference between the words OBLIGATION and SUGGESTION
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Mon, Nov 9 2015
  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    I understood who said what. I am not blaming you for trying to explain what only Bob can make clear. However, I said,.. {IMOP, there must be shared sacrifices. Promised users of Now, a discount pro-rated toward L7. Afterall, they are field-testers of what will be a major part of Logos 7. A little incentive may prove to go a long way.} Bob, didn't say
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Mon, Nov 9 2015
  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    [quote user="NB.Mick"] Nope. If you like the Logos Now model, I expect you will just continue to subscribe to it, and likely not ever need to make another 'upgrade' purchase. [/quote] Exactly, what is Logo 7? Is it possible to have a description before the product?
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Mon, Nov 9 2015
  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    Matthew, Thanks for the enlightenment. One would think that Faithlife would have a better plan or an endowment for future levels and developments. At best, Bob's explanations are subject to raise many questions in the minds of Logos users. Many do come to Faithlife for the Logos Bible Software with the mindset of Bob's number # 3 point above. IMOP,
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Mon, Nov 9 2015
  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    [quote user="Matthew"]I don't see Faithlife giving any discount at all for 7 to Now subscribers. From their perspective, Now is an ongoing revenue stream needed to pay for ongoing expenses. It would defeat the entire point to take that revenue and give it back to customers in the form of a discount on 7. In that scenario, from a financial standpoint
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Sun, Nov 8 2015
  • Re: Logos Is Playing With Logos

    [quote user="DAL"]I would hate to see "Bible Software" being taken off the Logo due to "political correctness" issues:[/quote] Faithlife is a business! They will do whatever it takes to get and keep that edge. Besides, is Faithlife more now, and perhaps in the future becomes, more than just about the Bible?
    Posted to General by C M on Sun, Nov 8 2015
  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    [quote user="John Goodman"]No it's pragmatic reasoning based on having the sermon collection and the discourse analysis already on my wish list. Since they bundled permanent ownership of books I wanted with the now subscription I thought I'd give it a go. My observation so far is that the most helpful feature is the systematic theologies section of
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Sun, Nov 8 2015
  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    [quote user="John Goodman"]I'm semi satisfied by Bob's answers so I'm renting for now but regretfully.[/quote] Is this the outcome of Bob's cleverness or the addictiveness of the Logos product?
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Sun, Nov 8 2015
  • Re: Sell me Logos 7 today!

    [quote user="Bryan Tucker"]the Logos Now marketing materials only leave me more confused and uncertain about Logos Now. Some clarification both from users & Faithlife could be helpful in sorting things out. The OP is coming from the perspective of users who absolutely want to own, not rent, and seems to be asking you to reconsider the terms of Logos
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Sat, Nov 7 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"] I have also written system specifications for a replacement payroll/personnel system that ran a mere 4 volumes, each over 200 pages long. So (a) don't make assumptions about other's qualifications and (b) as I have spoken in very concrete terms with examples, to be effective you should also speak in concrete terms as to what
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Thu, Nov 5 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Super.Tramp"]He who has the gold makes the rules.[/quote] Good for Bob. However, this explains many things. [quote user="Super.Tramp"]I suppose Bob's employees stay there because they like it.[/quote] You're doing a good job in promoting Bob, your boss or friend. I have no desire to take anything from him. It's good to know that a percentage
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Thu, Nov 5 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"] Personally, after thinking about some very specific cases as a result of this thread, I've come to the conclusion I wouldn't want Logos to produce a printed manual. Why? Because I think my "ideal" Logos manual (in contrast to MP's "beginners" manual) would have hyper links. How many ways can you think of to open a Bible for
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Thu, Nov 5 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"]I am very impressed with the quality of Morris Proctor's manuals and recommend them...But they are updated regularly via PDF updates you can print and insert in your printed copy. [/quote] If MP can do it, why can't Logos do it for its customers? Employ Mr. Proctor to keep manual updated in a more comprehensive way. Hurray!
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Thu, Nov 5 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Super.Tramp"] Bob Pritchett, CEO and owner of Faithlife, has told his employees to work on certain things...He has also said they will not be printing a paper user manual. Be aware that Bob's first book, " Fire Someone Today ", might be a motivator to the employees to do what they are told. After all, this is not his first rodeo. [/quote
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Thu, Nov 5 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"]Logos is more like Excel where MS documents how the tool works but 3rd parties tell you how to build a time-keeping system, or manage projects, or build work schedules, or any of the myriad of applications you wish to do. The documentation of what it can do is improving and is what Logos has committed to.[/quote] Come on, even
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Nov 4 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Eli Evans"] The only thing I can promise for sure is that we're listening and will continue to improve. Even so, I'm sure I won't be able to satisfy everyone. I don't see a wholesale change in our documentation strategy in the near future, just incremental improvements upon what we've been doing thus far. [/quote] Eli, Your statement reminds
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Nov 4 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"]From my experience with 3rd party training videos that are well done, I would say it is too much to ask because it is impossible. The user base is too diverse trying to achieve quite different goals with varying degrees of accuracy required, using the same terms for processes that are quite different[/quote] MJ, You're not saying
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Nov 4 2015
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