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  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Graham Criddle"] I'll look into what that would take to do." I suggest we see what he comes up with [/quote] As long as it satisfies and not an appeasement. Namely, because "appeasement doesn't please." Graham, I don't know what influence you have with and on, Bob and/or Eli. In light of what needed, a higher power will have to speak to
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Tue, Nov 3 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"]We can already print the Help document - the user may direct it to a PDF printer.[/quote] Yes, I am aware of this. [quote user="MJ. Smith"] I think what many people want is a manual that tells them how to use the tools to achieve their purpose rather than a manual that tells them what the tools do.[/quote] You're spot on, MJ
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Tue, Nov 3 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    Eli Evans, Thanks for your efforts to express what so many others failed to grasp or were unable to say in any satisfactory way. Your multitude of words comes as a babbling brook before a thirsty man on a parched desert, hoping it’s not a mirage. I don’t know if you are mouthpiece or spokes-person who has the authority to fulfill the needed request
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Tue, Nov 3 2015
  • Re: All I want for Christmas

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"] moving to a 2 year cycle[/quote] Thanks. Look like I will have a "Blue Christmas." [:'(] Is this strictly marketing reasoning or of necessity? I thinks the market place can handle the roll-out sooner, rather than later. We're talking worldwide.
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Thu, Oct 29 2015
  • Re: All I want for Christmas

    MJ, Please, tell me, L-7, when it comes out (not likely in Dec 2015), will we get a written manual for the new features? You may answer me on the thread of "user manual" if you choose. Is there a likelihood that FL might surprise everyone and roll out L-7 in Dec 2015? Since softwares developed very fast, can FL afford to wait much longer? Some will
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Thu, Oct 29 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Lew Worthington"]I am probably not that intelligent. [/quote] "NONE IS SO BLIND, WHO WILL NOT SEE."
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Thu, Oct 29 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Lew Worthington"]But almost nobody in my field relies on Microsoft documentation as their primary source of training. So, we learn to get good at it through experience, forums (free), explanations of features on web sites (free), videos (free), or occasionally, third-party training that we pay for. In this regard, FL meets my expectations
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Thu, Oct 29 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Lew Worthington"]almost nobody in my field relies on Microsoft documentation as their primary source of training. [/quote] At least you received the document. You exercise your rights and options not to use what was given. We have not received a manual to reject it. Give me the basic manual and I will decide if it's inadequate and if I
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Thu, Oct 29 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Graham Criddle"] under the current business model, they will be shipped to people when they pay for them. Note the Digital version is currently on sale for $39.99 and was on sale earlier this month for $34.99. [/quote] Oh, "what a difference, a day makes." We're back at square one- paying extra for instructions to use a product we purchased
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: My take on Logos Now

    [quote user="TCBlack"]IMHO Faithlife is doing quite well, and is positioning themselves as a company more likely to buy than to be bought.[/quote] Is this more wishful thinking, fact, or opinion? If you're not a FL administrator, your view is as good as a thousand leaves.
    Posted to General by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Super.Tramp"]I still disagree.[/quote] "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Doc B"](And yes, some of us old fashioned types think that a user manual is part of the purchase price...not free, but paid for in the purchase price...of a software package, especially a premium one.)[/quote] You are "spot on!" The cost and the size of the manuals are indicative to the nature of the product. What company designs a pre
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Super.Tramp"]The amount I spent on training is a tiny percentage of what I spent on resources.[/quote] That may be so. However, I made the statement in light of what the average person is willing and able to spend. [quote user="Super.Tramp"]I am happy to pay the trainers for their labour. [/quote] I too, after I get my manual. If I need
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Super.Tramp"]free training seminars with your Logos purchase is like asking for free driving school with your new car purchase.[/quote] This appears to be a"straw man" argument. To illustrate the present situation is thus: One fills a prescription at the pharmacy and one is required to pay extra for the directions to use it properly. Is
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Super.Tramp"]Demanding free training seminars with your Logos purchase [/quote] If you're referring to me, this statement is not true. I made a suggestion. If you would look in the dictionary in your large library, you would see clearly the two words, "Suggestion" and "demand" are not the same in spelling nor meaning. There was a time in
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Super.Tramp"]I have spent a considerable sum buying my library of 42,400+ resources. [/quote] The fact that you spent so much money on training is very revealing: This software is not the easiest to use. The mere fact that you spent so much to get a proper understanding on how to use software speaks volumes. You were blessed to have the
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Graham Criddle"]Just to re-iterate. The manuals exist[/quote] When will it be shipped to those of us that need one? I know you can't give an official word, but its good to know they exit. Thanks!
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Doc B"]a manual for a software program is no where near as complicated as a manual for life (TIC).[/quote] You have made my point. This all the more the users Logos should have a manual sooner, rather than or never.
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="David Carter"]Maybe because Faithlife are not God ?[/quote] It's not "maybe", it's a fact! No one is asking or expecting Faithlife to be Divine or work a miracle. They just have to be fair, reasonable, and helpful as possible to customers who have invested greatly in their product.
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
  • Re: User Manuals -- Are hardcopies available?

    [quote user="Super.Tramp"]a hardcopy version. I am afraid it would be obsolete before it left the printer.[/quote] With all due respect Sir, why are they selling these? Furthermore, Graham Criddle said earlier today that there is “A range of training materials and manuals are available” at https://www.logos.com/products/search?Series+%2f+Sets=MP+Seminars
    Posted to Suggestions by C M on Wed, Oct 28 2015
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