How about a video of a Bible Study facilitator/member using Logos

I 100% agree and I have mentioned this over the years. I understand that Logos was designed for academics but if expansion is the key, they need to start focusing on lay users and small study bible group leaders. 

Less datasets and more graphics (better quality and easier ways to find them), charts, collaboration, easy of use, etc.

Yes this is the discussion thread I saw.

One thought after reading it again: A fantastically great use of a church wide plan would be the ability to follow along with the preacher's outline, with links to his source material. I could use this after the sermon is finished to continue my study. Maybe Proclaim would be the part that I could do this on. I admit I am not familiar with Proclaim, but what ever the program that connects me to the sermon notes would be worth a lot.

Gerald said:

the ability to follow along with the preacher's outline, with links to his source material. I could use this after the sermon is finished to continue my study. Maybe Proclaim would be the part that I could do this on. I admit I am not familiar with Proclaim, but what ever the program that connects me to the sermon notes would be worth a lot.

If the preacher uses Proclaim well (setting signals to follow his points) and the congregant has the Faithlife Study Bible App open, the FSB app will follow the Pastor while having hyperlinked resources for the congregant to go on "bunny trails" or research deeper at a later time.

the middle of this screen shows the signals that the speaker sends to listeners who are following. the red circle 1 in the top middle of the pic shows that there is one person actively following the presentation.

The user has a chance to accept or reject an invitation to follow a nearby presentation.

If the invitation is accepted, a small blue box appears in the lower lefthand corner of the panel

the signals from the preacher pop up in real time and the listener can choose to pop over and look at that verse, or stay in the main text.

If the listener has 2 panes open (example is Bible and Study Bible) the linked Study Bible resources are available.

Once the user has a free FSB account, he/she has access to a currated set of resources. Once the preferred version is purchased (if not included in the FSB account) and downloaded to the device, following is even quicker.

Our digital signage in the lobby and Fellowship Hall has a QR code to get on the church's wifi, and another code to download the app to their device.

Our pre-service loop of slides also has an invitation to download the app and follow along.

 that sounds wonderful but would you use proclaim for Bible study?

David Thomas said:

Gerald said:

the ability to follow along with the preacher's outline, with links to his source material. I could use this after the sermon is finished to continue my study. Maybe Proclaim would be the part that I could do this on. I admit I am not familiar with Proclaim, but what ever the program that connects me to the sermon notes would be worth a lot.

If the preacher uses Proclaim well (setting signals to follow his points) and the congregant has the Faithlife Study Bible App open, the FSB app will follow the Pastor while having hyperlinked resources for the congregant to go on "bunny trails" or research deeper at a later time.

the middle of this screen shows the signals that the speaker sends to listeners who are following. the red circle 1 in the top middle of the pic shows that there is one person actively following the presentation.

I think I would find this very useful, especially if the next sermon in the series was also outlined in the notes. The pastor of our Baptist Church rarely has any sermon outline printed and rarely has any visual notes on a slide. I understand it takes time to provide these, but the notes and hyperlinks would be helpful for me. If all I had was one outline page with hyperlinks, I would be happy. I don't need color with watermark style pictures.

Thanks for the information David.

Mattillo said:

 that sounds wonderful but would you use proclaim for Bible study?

In addition to weekly preaching, I've used it in adult Bible Study (Sunday School) very effectively. One class was bi-lingual and I could do my notes in English and post slides in Russian (My translator made the connections for me). I've also used it in a class of 30 adults divided between 6 discussion tables. I use proclaim to post a discussion question, then they discuss as a table and report back, I've also used the e-ink in Proclaim to mark up texts while explaining the connections.

Gerald said:

I don't need color with watermark style pictures.

Each week my ministry assistant makes a post on our Facebook page that has links to 1) a PDF of a listening guide that can be downloaded to a tablet before/during service. The listening guide is also printed as an insert in our weekly bulletin for the paper/ink crowd. Sample: https://www.flinthillschurch.net/_files/ugd/a60eb8_4514a78793cd404c8fef4b3adacceaca.pdf.

2) There is also a link to a "digital bulletin" with all the slides from the whole service. Sample: https://faithlife.com/fhcc-cwf/bulletins/323066025 

These static resources in addition to the signals during the live presentation create "a long tail" that listeners can grab to revisit the sermon.

For those who wish to be "in the moment", but later revisit the message we podcast and post the messages in https://sermons.logos.com/series/239813-obadiah 

This permits listeners to Prepare, Engage & ReVisit a message.

MJ. Smith said:

I was unaware of this fantastic feature for Bible study groups.  Thank you.

I should not even respond to this, but I do sense a measure of being criticized and mocked because my view of worship doesn't meet yours. One purpose of me attending an organized church service is to be taught the Bible. Any tool applied that helps me do so better in my view is "fantastic". I have been in too many services where the main text of the sermon is so quickly read that I don't have time to open a bible to follow along. And since my church doesn't always print the references in a handout / bulletin, I may spend the next few minutes confused as to what was just read. And if my desire to take home a record of what I just listened to is not proper worship, I guess I have a lot to learn.

MJ. Smith said:

I think in terms of joining in with the heavenly service

This is why most Acelo congregations have the TABLE (incarnate WORD) front and center of the service, while many protestant churches have the pulpit (written WORD) see Nehemiah 8:4 for centrality of proclamation of the written WORD. 

[Note: I have noticed a trend to having the "worship team" occupy the whole platform, and perhaps a pulpit/table is brought out for the proclamation of the Word]

MJ is the only person I know who uses the acronym, so I used it according to her frame of reference.

altar arrangement may be a cultural thing. I’ve never worshipped in the UK, but have in India, Russia & Costa Rica. I used “many” instead of “most” as a nod to my limited exposure. Interesting that my current congregation and 3 of the previous 4 did not even have a baptismal font or baptistery except for occasional temporary events. ordinances/sacraments only happen occasionally (monthly, quarterly,or annually), but word is proclaimed weekl. 

MJ I was too quick to assume your intent. I see now I was wrong. My apologies extended. I was raised in a church that had communion every week like you. Now that I attend a Southern Baptist affiliated church, we do not do that. I was not thinking in terms of the worship, but the education aspect of the sermon. I just wish my church had better communication like proclaim  within the service as to biblical and cultural references for the ideas being taught.