Ignatius: Logos adding the various recensions

Chances are there's not a lot of Ignatius fans on the forum.

But if you 'wish' you could see in more detail exactly what got dumped to achieve 'real-Ignatius' the Apostolic Fathers Collection includes Cureton's volume on the Ignatius sources:

'This volume presents a comparison of the text of the Syriac and of that of both the Greek recensions of the epistles to Polycarp, the Ephesians, and the Romans by St. Ignatius. Cureton also provides a similar comparison of the text of the longer and shorter recensions of the Epistles to the Magnesians, Trallians, Philadelphians, and Smyræans. To these, Cureton has subjoined the rest of the Ignatian epistles in Greek; and to all of them he has supplied their corresponding ancient Latin versions. He has likewise appended to the rest the Three Letters attributed to St. Ignatius, of which Latin copies only are known to exist. This furnishes a complete collection of all the epistles which have ever been assigned to the venerable Bishop of Antioch.

Cureton provides English translations of all the Syriac, Arabic, Ethiopic in the volume, and adds helpful notes, critical and explanatory, on the three Syriac epistles, with some notes on the other epistles and on the Syriac extracts.'

Of course the collection includes Lightfoot. Unfortunately the CP at $30 went to $200 for the PP and who knows ... maybe $5,000 for the eventual rentable version.

http://www.logos.com/product/27506/classic-studies-on-the-apostolic-fathers#012

Also if you're curious about Jefford's volumes: http://www.logos.com/product/26274/apostolic-fathers-collection

The main volume is quite interesting (2006). It's sort of a systematic theology discussion of the apostolic fathers writings. Seems to be balanced and in depth. Not a bad price too given the links, etc.

The other volume is best described as 'Apostolic Fathers for Dummies'. I thought it'd be pretty boring. But it's actually quite good. Jefford 're-writes' the apostolic fathers removing all the hemming and hawing (can anyone say 'Barnabas'?!).

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Lynden O. Williams

Denise, while there may not be a lot of Ignatius fans, I simply envy the amount of resources that are now available for those who desire material from the Roman Catholic and Orthodox community.

Hapax Legomena

The "Classic Studies in the Apostolic Fathers" is one of the all-time great CP buys. I can't wait until it gets released!

Martin Grainger Dean

Denise, can you provide the logosres link (logosres:) of Table of Content for "Reading the Apostolic Fathers: A Student’s Introduction, 2nd ed. by Clayton N. Jefford". I want to add it to my PB. Thanks, Martin.

DMB

Here 'tis: logosres:readapfathers2ed;ref=Page.p_vii

For anyone curious, this is from the Letter to Diognetus; interesting points (my skipped dots):

'I write to you, Diognetus, in order to answer your questions about this new religion of Christianity. Open your mind to the situation, if you will.

Let us consider the gods of the Greeks. Are these figures not the work of people like us? .... Is it any wonder that Christians refuse to honor and worship such so-called gods?

Yet, neither do Christians worship in the same way as the Jews. Even the Jews have come to treat the one, true God as though this too were some deity who needed care. Jewish sacrifices and offerings closely resemble the work of the Greeks. The Jewish concerns over food, circumcision, fasts, and feasts, which are randomly determined by the movement of the stars, come from foolishness and pride. Would you expect Christians to follow such shallow human teachings?

No, Christians are different. They appear everywhere in the world, yet they are truly citizens of the land of heaven. They live as other people do, but they work for the benefit of all nations.'

Mike Childs

Chances are there's not a lot of Ignatius fans on the forum.

But if you 'wish' you could see in more detail exactly what got dumped to achieve 'real-Ignatius' the Apostolic Fathers Collection includes Cureton's volume on the Ignatius sources...

Of course the collection includes Lightfoot. Unfortunately the CP at $30 went to $200 for the PP and who knows ... maybe $5,000 for the eventual rentable version.

http://www.logos.com/product/27506/classic-studies-on-the-apostolic-fathers#012

Count me a fan of all the Apostolic Fathers, including Ignatius. After all, we stand on their shoulders.

Glad I got in when it was $30 on CP.

Bruce Dunning

Glad I got in when it was $30 on CP.

Me too. I look forward to reading it.

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

I'm a big fan of St. Ignatius! [;)]