Discourse Features Visual Filter

The unfortunate thing about the two specific datasets is that they don't appear to have product pages.

You can't hover their descriptions and determine what bundles they're included in, besides the ones we know about -- Logos Now and the Extended Feature Set.

Andrew said:

Mark Smith said:

Andrew said:

Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament Datasets (4 vols.) doesn't include the NT discourse datasets?

Yes, that one is just the datasets.

And:

• Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament
• Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament: SBL Edition
• Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament: Glossary
• Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament: Introduction

I am open to correction and may be wrong in my understanding. But I believe the old set (6 vols. or 7 vols.) was a collection of  RESOURCES that could be opened in Logos in a separate panel. I believe in L7 and LNOW they have integrated the DATASETS into the Reverse Interlinear coding so that it becomes a visual filter that can be turned on/off within Reverse Interlinear tagged resources. I originally bought the 7 vol. RESOURCE set back in 2011, but the visual filter "Discourse Features (Greek)" and "Discourse Features (Hebrew)" did not appear in my visual filter drop-down until I subscribed to Logos Now in Nov 2016.

I bought the bundle in 2011/2012 my cost for the new collection was 21.99. 

Andrew said:

my dynamic price for the Lexham Discourse Bible (8 vols.) is $104.99 USD.

Might be worth looking into Logos Now at that price, considering everything else that it provides.

Andrew said:

I can't find the Discourse Features Visual Filter even within the Lexham English Bible (the sample used in Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament: Dataset Documentation).  Any suggestions?

I am in the same boat as you I have some discourse bundles but the discourse features don't show up.  I'm still trying to parse the information in this thread.

But my question now is : does the discourse features visual filter show the same information as the high def NT (HDNT) or does it show different information?

I hope this does not hijack your thread.  Thanks for posting your question about what is to me a confusing topic.

I just upgraded.  I had previously bought this as a 6-volume set so my cost was very affordable for the rest of the remaining 2 resources in the 8-volume set.

This dataset gives me more information than the HDNT.  The blue structure outline is the same but now I have more underlying information in the Bible text (I'm looking at Matt 18.15 ff) -- things like conditional frame, topical frame, and thematic addition.  That stuff is not in the HDNT. 

Thanks for the help.

Ken F Hill said:

I just upgraded.  I had previously bought this as a 6-volume set so my cost was very affordable for the rest of the remaining 2 resources in the 8-volume set.

This dataset gives me more information than the HDNT.  The blue structure outline is the same but now I have more underlying information in the Bible text (I'm looking at Matt 18.15 ff) -- things like conditional frame, topical frame, and thematic addition.  That stuff is not in the HDNT. 

Thanks for the help.

The move from bundled RESOURCES to a DATASET created a lot of confusion. Discourse markers were bound to the LDGNT or the HDNT(ESV) in the old bundled resources, but the new DATASET allow the discourse markers to be turned on via visual filter in other translations (as long as there is Reverse Interlinear tagging).

If you own the Bible Bundles you can update to the 8 vol set for a song and own the datasets permanently. If not the extended feature set is your best bet AFAIK.