Home Page
In Logos 8, the fully redesigned Home Page gets you into Logos quicker. Customize your launch pad for the ways you use Logos most, so you can launch right into your favorite workflows, reading plans, layouts, and more.
We've provided information on using the Home Page here:
Feel free to use this forum thread as a place to post questions or feedback.
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One thing that I really liked about the old home page and used a lot was the easy access to my reading plan.
In Logos 7 the link for today's reading took me straight to the open Bible in my current workspace at the correct locations.
In Logos 8 it opens a new workspace, I'm sure that this is configurable but how to change this is not immediately obvious to me.
Can anyone help? Please!!!
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Graham Owen said:
One thing that I really liked about the old home page and used a lot was the easy access to my reading plan.
In Logos 7 the link for today's reading took me straight to the open Bible in my current workspace at the correct locations.
In Logos 8 it opens a new workspace, I'm sure that this is configurable but how to change this is not immediately obvious to me.
Can anyone help? Please!!!
This is a known issue.
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Each time I launch Logos 8, I have to keep resetting the home page to 'auto' for the columns to fill my screen. It seems to default to 4 columns which is annoying as I want it wider!
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My understanding is that they're working on this...
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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Dan said:
Each time I launch Logos 8, I have to keep resetting the home page to 'auto' for the columns to fill my screen. It seems to default to 4 columns which is annoying as I want it wider!
Thanks, Dan. Sorry for the inconvenience, we are working on persisting this setting.
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David Taylor Jr said:Graham Owen said:
One thing that I really liked about the old home page and used a lot was the easy access to my reading plan.
In Logos 7 the link for today's reading took me straight to the open Bible in my current workspace at the correct locations.
In Logos 8 it opens a new workspace, I'm sure that this is configurable but how to change this is not immediately obvious to me.
Can anyone help? Please!!!
This is a known issue.
Does anyone know when this will be fixed?
I accept that I can workaround this but wish that I knew about this before I took the plunge because like the Note function, where the changes were highlighted, its something that I use daily.
What is the logic for opening a new workspace?
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How do you change Bibles now; did they do away with downloaded books info? Jim Julian
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Jim Julian said:
How do you change Bibles now; did they do away with downloaded books info? Jim Julian
Can you explain what you mean by "change Bibles"?
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Jim Julian said:
How do you change Bibles now; did they do away with downloaded books info? Jim Julian
Your preferred bible is now set in the library. See the Quick Start Video on Library for further details.
In addition when you click on the menu on the left side you can see all the books downloaded or updated within a certain number of days.
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You use to have 3 Bibles to set. How do you change to set a different Bible?
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Where are the Quickstart 8 videos?
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Go box is completely neutered. Under previous versions entering a verse/ verse range automatically brought up a passage guide. Now all it does in verbum is open the bible to the verse. This is a major step back and will turn my study into a more complicated thing. I have no idea how to fix this. At thing point i really would love to downgrade to 7.
-dan
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Jim Julian said:
You use to have 3 Bibles to set. How do you change to set a different Bible?
John Fidel said:Your preferred bible[s] [are] now set in the library. See the Quick Start Video on Library for further details.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Dan Francis said:
Go box is completely neutered. Under previous versions entering a verse/ verse range automatically brought up a passage guide. Now all it does in verbum is open the bible to the verse. This is a major step back and will turn my study into a more complicated thing. I have no idea how to fix this. At thing point i really would love to downgrade to 7.
-dan
Type the reference or reference range, wait one second and click "Open Passage Guide"
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Dan Francis said:
Go box is completely neutered. Under previous versions entering a verse/ verse range automatically brought up a passage guide. Now all it does in verbum is open the bible to the verse. This is a major step back and will turn my study into a more complicated thing. I have no idea how to fix this. At thing point i really would love to downgrade to 7.
-dan
When entering a reference, the box should provide you with a drop down menu of options. In the Layout category you will find "Open Passage to <reference>".
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John Fidel said:Jim Julian said:
How do you change Bibles now; did they do away with downloaded books info? Jim Julian
Your preferred bible is now set in the library. See the Quick Start Video on Library for further details.
In addition when you click on the menu on the left side you can see all the books downloaded or updated within a certain number of days.
It looks like upgrading to Logos 8 is going to be more painful than I anticipated and I'm starting to regret not waiting longer. I was expecting a more polished Logos 7 and was certainly not expecting to have to watch a Quick Start Video on the Library to find out how to change the preferred Bible. It's beginning to feel like a lot of stuff that was not broken in 7 has been fixed in 8.
Personally I'm not a fan of videos so what I need is a Quick Start guide to what has changed, is there such a document?
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Dan Francis said:
Go box is completely neutered. Under previous versions entering a verse/ verse range automatically brought up a passage guide. Now all it does in verbum is open the bible to the verse. This is a major step back and will turn my study into a more complicated thing. I have no idea how to fix this. At thing point i really would love to downgrade to 7.
-dan
This will be fixed in 8.1. For now, you just need to hit the down arrow before hitting enter or clicking Go.
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Thanks Phil and everyone who has pointed out how to get the expected results to work just not something I have been use to in the past, this minor slow down of study is not the end of the world just frustrating.
-dan
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In Logos 7 I could access "My Account" from the home page.
I have spent some time looking for that feature and cannot find it in Logos 8.I suggest that access be placed where it has always been in the upper right-hand corner of the home page screen or at least be listed in the drop-down menu under those three vertical dots.
If there is a way to access "My Account" already, I hope someone can share how to do it in Logos 8.
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Jerome Smith said:
In Logos 7 I could access "My Account" from the home page.
I have spent some time looking for that feature and cannot find it in Logos 8.I suggest that access be placed where it has always been in the upper right-hand corner of the home page screen or at least be listed in the drop-down menu under those three vertical dots.
If there is a way to access "My Account" already, I hope someone can share how to do it in Logos 8.
Click on the dot menu on the right side of the screen then click "About Logos" There you will see the following:
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David Taylor Jr said:
Click on the dot menu on the right side of the screen then click "About Logos"
That is unless you are on MacOS, in which case you'll find this under the Logos Menu in the menu bar.
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Graham Owen said:John Fidel said:Jim Julian said:
How do you change Bibles now; did they do away with downloaded books info? Jim Julian
Your preferred bible is now set in the library. See the Quick Start Video on Library for further details.
In addition when you click on the menu on the left side you can see all the books downloaded or updated within a certain number of days.
It looks like upgrading to Logos 8 is going to be more painful than I anticipated and I'm starting to regret not waiting longer. I was expecting a more polished Logos 7 and was certainly not expecting to have to watch a Quick Start Video on the Library to find out how to change the preferred Bible. It's beginning to feel like a lot of stuff that was not broken in 7 has been fixed in 8.
Personally I'm not a fan of videos so what I need is a Quick Start guide to what has changed, is there such a document?
Hello Graham: I'm not a power user and honest struggled quite a bit with Logos 7, and regularly voiced my opinion about it. I think maybe just give it a couple of days and you will see that this version is MUCH MORE intuitive and much easier to use. It kind of reminds me of when I switched from a PC laptop to a MAC (I got it for free or I never would have thought to switch). I swear, I could have thrown that thing across the room. Now, I couldn't imagine every purchasing a PC laptop. To me, MAC is so much more intuitive and logical, but because I was used to the "old way," I thought it was better. Honestly, give L8 a day or two and play around with it. I think you're really going to like it. Is it perfect? No, but its WAAAAYYYY better than 7!
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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Thank you for the quick response!
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Jim Julian said:
Where are the Quickstart 8 videos?
If you have the Quickstart Videos in your library, then you can view them within logos. If not then you cn view a library video here
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How do I switch from using the verbum platform over to Logos? We used to be able to do this in the command box.
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Hi Graham,
The videos are not long, easy to follow and go step by step through some of the changes and set up. Give them a try and I think many of your concerns will be resolved. If you still find things difficult or frustrating post back.
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Graham Owen said:
Personally I'm not a fan of videos so what I need is a Quick Start guide to what has changed, is there such a document?
The "big picture" of what has changed is here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/173743.aspx
The Home Page is all new, so there isn't a list of everything that is different from the previous version. That would be quite tedious. But apart from Notes, there's nothing else where there are major changes from L7 (there are major additions, of course, but that's a different issue). There are also changes to the Documents and Tools menu, and the Library, but there's very little lost functionality there.
PS - Do you change your preferred Bible often?
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Cynthia in Florida said:Graham Owen said:John Fidel said:Jim Julian said:
How do you change Bibles now; did they do away with downloaded books info? Jim Julian
Your preferred bible is now set in the library. See the Quick Start Video on Library for further details.
In addition when you click on the menu on the left side you can see all the books downloaded or updated within a certain number of days.
It looks like upgrading to Logos 8 is going to be more painful than I anticipated and I'm starting to regret not waiting longer. I was expecting a more polished Logos 7 and was certainly not expecting to have to watch a Quick Start Video on the Library to find out how to change the preferred Bible. It's beginning to feel like a lot of stuff that was not broken in 7 has been fixed in 8.
Personally I'm not a fan of videos so what I need is a Quick Start guide to what has changed, is there such a document?
Hello Graham: I'm not a power user and honest struggled quite a bit with Logos 7, and regularly voiced my opinion about it. I think maybe just give it a couple of days and you will see that this version is MUCH MORE intuitive and much easier to use. It kind of reminds me of when I switched from a PC laptop to a MAC (I got it for free or I never would have thought to switch). I swear, I could have thrown that thing across the room. Now, I couldn't imagine every purchasing a PC laptop. To me, MAC is so much more intuitive and logical, but because I was used to the "old way," I thought it was better. Honestly, give L8 a day or two and play around with it. I think you're really going to like it. Is it perfect? No, but its WAAAAYYYY better than 7!
Hi Cynthia
Not sure that I qualify as a power user but I am a long term user with well over 20 years of purchasing and using the Logos products. I used to spend a lot more time here in the forums and have previously participated in Beta testing. These days between Family, being a pastor and holding down a full time job I use Logos because it helps me to be productive when looking at God's Word. That's why I bought it and why I have invested a ridiculous amount of money in it.
When I sit down to prepare a sermon or Bible study I no longer want to play with the software for a few days so that I can get used to it, I want the software to let me get on with what I need to do. I don't have time to play with software, Logos is a tool, an expensive tool and I have an expectation that it will work and more importantly allow me to study with minimal fuss. Logos 7 may not have been perfect but it let me get on with the task in hand.
Exploring the Home Page and the Bible Reading Plan as an example. Fortunately I know enough about workspaces to know how to retrieve the one that Logos 8 decided to replace when I opened Today's Reading. I also knew how to then Open the Reading Plan and open today's reading in the workspace that I wanted to use i.e. my normal workspace. I wasted a few minutes, thanks to my 20 plus years of using Logos, for someone else the impact could have been far greater.
Sadly this is not the first time on my Logos journey that we have had new releases with "missing features" or "minor" workflow changes that proved major for some users. I read about the changes to Notes and decided the the benefits outweighed the pain of change but I did not read anywhere that opening a Reading Plan will automatically:
- close your active workspace
- create a new workspace with Logos determined content
I honestly can't see how in this context 8 is better than 7, sorry but that work flow is just plain dumb, it is broken. This implementation shows a total disregard for the existing user and I am surprised that this was not fixed in the Beta. The Logos developers should be embarrassed that the production release works this way.
As a long term user what I need more than anything from Logos 8 is for the basics to work the way they have always worked or at least be similar enough for me to figure it out without watching three videos and reading multiple posts on this forum.
At the moment Logos 8 is proving a time waster not a time saver and in all honesty I'm not seeing anything in Logos 8 that will help me get that time back in the near future.
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In Logos 7, I had set what would come up on the home page to items I utilized most. Now, I am seeing things from Proclaim Blog and other items I don't normally use. Is there a way to decide what will and won't come up on the home page in the "Explore" section?
"If you cry out for insight and understanding and if you search for it as hidden treasure,
then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God." - Proverbs 2:3-50 -
This is being worked on and is coming in a future release.Don Randolph said:In Logos 7, I had set what would come up on the home page to items I utilized most. Now, I am seeing things from Proclaim Blog and other items I don't normally use. Is there a way to decide what will and won't come up on the home page in the "Explore" section?
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Mark Barnes said:
PS - Do you change your preferred Bible often?
Personally no, the last time I remember having to do this was because Logos lost my preference. Thing was then I knew how to find it, if it happened now I'd need to watch the video on using the library, not exactly intuitive.
Personally I'd say that the logical place for preferred Bible would be the Settings page but that's another story.
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John Fidel said:
Hi Graham,
The videos are not long, easy to follow and go step by step through some of the changes and set up. Give them a try and I think many of your concerns will be resolved. If you still find things difficult or frustrating post back.
My issue with this John is that as a 20 plus year user I really don't want to watch videos to do the basic things that I have always done.
Plus the fact is that I would never guess that if I want to change the preferred Bible I need to watch the library video. The preferred Bible has always had a special status in Logos and as far as I can remember has always been on the home page or its equivalent.
Videos might make sense for new users and for existing users exploring new features but for the basics I expect the transition from one release to another to be relatively easy, so far going from 7 to 8, in my opinion, has tripped me up a few times unnecessarily.
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Graham Owen said:John Fidel said:
Hi Graham,
The videos are not long, easy to follow and go step by step through some of the changes and set up. Give them a try and I think many of your concerns will be resolved. If you still find things difficult or frustrating post back.
My issue with this John is that as a 20 plus year user I really don't want to watch videos to do the basic things that I have always done.
Plus the fact is that I would never guess that if I want to change the preferred Bible I need to watch the library video. The preferred Bible has always had a special status in Logos and as far as I can remember has always been on the home page or its equivalent.
Videos might make sense for new users and for existing users exploring new features but for the basics I expect the transition from one release to another to be relatively easy, so far going from 7 to 8, in my opinion, has tripped me up a few times unnecessarily.
I usually change my Bible preferences using the prioritization menu.
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Mark Barnes said:
The "big picture" of what has changed is here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/173743.aspx
Thanks Mark
I read this before doing the upgrade, what this does not make clear is that there are some fundamental changes and that as a result somethings are missing.
I've been here before, history tends to repeat itself on the Logos, Faithlife journey, but back then I was involved in Beta testing so was aware of the known issues. Big difference being that I had some time to spare.
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Once again Logos has released software that is not ready for the end user and have made workflow changes that impact upon the way we use the software everyday. They only ask fanboys and girls to private beta test and so don’t get honest feedback on whether the software is ready. I used to be a private beta tester but the stopped asking me because I gave honest feedback about things like this and they did not want to hear it. They only want to hear from people who say yes, Bob, the software is great. Users shouldn’t have to be changing workflow and then have to change it again when 8.1 is released because the software was prematurely released. And if L8 is supposed to simply things why would you move the ability to changed preferred bibles from the home page or bury a link to a users account in the about page when it also used to be one click away in a visible position on the home page. Once again FL designers have forgotten the everydSh user with some of these backwards changes for the sake of change.
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Jesse Blevins said:
How do I switch from using the verbum platform over to Logos? We used to be able to do this in the command box.
I think it always worked only in the other direction: running the Logos platform and using the command Set Verbum to Yes to see it work like Verbum and Set Verbum to No to go back to original Logos-look. As far as I have seen, they work exactly like that in L8.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Hello Graham: I'm sorry you're frustrated and find workflow to be "broken." For me, I immediately was able to use it, and I'm definitely someone who struggles with this program. I love workflow. I found it very intuitive and I found it easy to modify, so maybe part of the concern is expectations of what the tool is meant to do.
I always found that with FL, if you present your frustrations in a clear manner with reasons, they will listen and seek to make changes that make their products better.
On the side, when I said click around for a couple of days, I didn't mean it from a perspective of necessity, but more for you to become familiar with the program's changes. Anytime a program upgrades, there are going to be functions that are changed that you don't like. I hope you see that the functions that you do like outweigh the former.
If not, you always have 30 days (I think that's the allotted time but don't quote me on it) to get your refund.
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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NB.Mick said:Jesse Blevins said:
How do I switch from using the verbum platform over to Logos? We used to be able to do this in the command box.
I think it always worked only in the other direction: running the Logos platform and using the command Set Verbum to Yes to see it work like Verbum and Set Verbum to No to go back to original Logos-look. As far as I have seen, they work exactly like that in L8.
Thank you very much NB.Mick [:D]
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Jerome as an added step to David's instruction you can add the "Your Account" to your 'Shortcuts" on the "Home Page" by "click and holding" your left mouse button on the "Your account" link then drag it from the help menu to the "Home Page" dropping it on the "Shortcuts" bar. You will have to rename it to something like "My Account" and give it a unique icon (also select the "Show label" option). This is a workaround so you won't have to go to the help menu every time you want to quickly jump to your Faithlife account.
David Taylor Jr said:Jerome Smith said:In Logos 7 I could access "My Account" from the home page.
I have spent some time looking for that feature and cannot find it in Logos 8.I suggest that access be placed where it has always been in the upper right-hand corner of the home page screen or at least be listed in the drop-down menu under those three vertical dots.
If there is a way to access "My Account" already, I hope someone can share how to do it in Logos 8.
Click on the dot menu on the right side of the screen then click "About Logos" There you will see the following:
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Cynthia in Florida said:
Hello Graham: I'm sorry you're frustrated and find workflow to be "broken." .
I always found that with FL, if you present your frustrations in a clear manner with reasons, they will listen and seek to make changes that make their products better.
when I said click around for a couple of days, I didn't mean it from a perspective of necessity, but more for you to become familiar with the program's changes.
No need to apologise Cynthia
After 20 plus years I know Faithlife's strengths really well, sadly I also know their weaknesses. I have every expectation that they will get this right, I just don't appreciate being told "known issue" "future release" or its not broken because you do it this less intuitive way and you need to watch the video.
Faithlife are where they are today because of long term users who have invested and continue to invest we don't mind new we just don't want broken or missing.
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The Home Page has changed the definition of the meaning of the "Saints" section/card. Mind you, the change of meaning doesn't bother me per se ... but the loss of functionality does.
In L7, the sidebar "Saints" was intended solely for the calendar of saints celebrated by a particular church - a short list for Anglicans and Lutherans had their calendars ever been build. The meaning has been changed to be all saints recognized by a particular church/resource.
That may sound picky but the new meaning assumes that the resource is designed in calendar order where the main driving resource in L7 is in alphabetical order. This difference makes it so one no longer sees the multiple saints that may be assigned to a date and that "next" is a meaningless next saint alphabetically.
The new definition of "saints" has distinct advantages for adding additional church calendars which I will try shortly. But it does require a new edition of Saints. Bellingham, WA: Verbum, 2013. that is in calendar order rather than alphabetical.
Required actions for Faithlife to clean this up:- Saints card must have calendar function
- "Next" must be limited by date OR multiple saints shown for the date
- the resource "Saint" must be revised to work with the new definition of the function of the Saint card/section
In the next few days, I'll build the equivalent to "Saints" for another denomination to see if other issues appear.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Noel Bomar said:
you can add the "Your Account" to your 'Shortcuts" on the "Home Page" by "click and holding" your left mouse button on the "Your account" link then drag it from the help menu to the "Home Page" dropping it on the "Shortcuts" bar.
After you open the webpage in your browser, you can even drag the url from the browser to your Logos Shortcuts bar to make a direct link to the website and save yourself the step of opening the About panel.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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The Library "type" item has either changes the meaning of Calendar Devotional OR tagged some resources in error. Calendar devotional previously meant solely "secular calendar"; items indexed by liturgical date could not function as a devotional on the Home Page. However at least these resources are indexed only by liturgical date but are tagged as Calendar Devotions. Therefore, they show up as options for the Daily Devotional on the Dashboard, but if selected do absolutely nothing.
- Oden, Thomas C., and Cindy Crosby, eds. Ancient Christian Devotional: A Year of Weekly Readings: Lectionary Cycle A. Downers Grove, IL: IVP Books, 2007.
- Oden, Thomas C., and Cindy Crosby, eds. Ancient Christian Devotional: A Year of Weekly Readings: Lectionary Cycle B. Downers Grove, IL: IVP Books, 2011.
- Oden, Thomas C., and Cindy Crosby, eds. Ancient Christian Devotional: A Year of Weekly Readings: Lectionary Cycle C. Downers Grove, IL: IVP Books, 2009.
My preferred solution would be to expand Daily Devotional to include Liturgical Date Devotionals ... there are a number of additional resources that are used in this manner. Until that is accomplished, items that cannot be used on a Daily Devotional card should not be listed as options.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Thank you David. I will be looking forward to cleaning it up again. Don
"If you cry out for insight and understanding and if you search for it as hidden treasure,
then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God." - Proverbs 2:3-50 -
Leithart, Peter J., David A. deSilva, Greg Forster, Craig L. Blomberg, Robert N. Wilkin, Mark L. Ward Jr., R. Michael Allen, et al. Reflecting on the Word: Video Devotionals (Year A). Logos Mobile Education. Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2016.
I would like to be able to schedule resources such as the above on the home page as a Daily Devotional rather than Courses because I would like it to present the reflection appropriate to the date rather than where I last left off.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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doc said:
They only ask fanboys and girls to private beta test and so don’t get honest feedback on whether the software is ready. I used to be a private beta tester but the stopped asking me because I gave honest feedback about things like this and they did not want to hear it.
That is demeaning a number of people you know well from the forums, because the feedback they gave was honest, and passionate at times. And they got equally honest responses... So here we are, and I can safely say that your feedback would not have made any difference to the outcome.
Going forward, I hope that you can provide feedback without getting personal, as 8.1 isn't the end of the line.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:doc said:
They only ask fanboys and girls to private beta test and so don’t get honest feedback on whether the software is ready. I used to be a private beta tester but the stopped asking me because I gave honest feedback about things like this and they did not want to hear it.
That is demeaning a number of people you know well from the forums, because the feedback they gave was honest, and passionate at times. And they got equally honest responses... So here we are, and I can safely say that your feedback would not have made any difference to the outcome.
Going forward, I hope that you can provide feedback without getting personal, as 8.1 isn't the end of the line.
Agreed, the fanboy comment was uncalled for. There was plenty of honest feedback, passionate, and even sometimes heated feedback during the beta.
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David Taylor Jr said:
There was plenty of honest feedback, passionate, and even sometimes heated feedback during the beta.
I can tell you that some of what was released today, and some of what will come in the future is a result of the feedback, discussions, and even debates that took place during the Beta. I appreciate the way the FL team solicits and considers feedback from users, as they make development and product decisions.
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Why was it moved from where it was, I don’t want to have to take up space on the shortcut bar for something that was on the home page already and was not broken? You claim to have made things easier but this is ridiculous to have to go to these lengths to add your account to the home page.
The new home page appearance is awful.
Noel Bomar said:you can add the "Your Account" to your 'Shortcuts" on the "Home Page" by "click and holding" your left mouse button on the "Your account" link then drag it from the help menu to the "Home Page" dropping it on the "Shortcuts" bar.
After you open the webpage in your browser, you can even drag the url from the browser to your Logos Shortcuts bar to make a direct link to the website and save yourself the step of opening the About panel.
Noel Bomar said:you can add the "Your Account" to your 'Shortcuts" on the "Home Page" by "click and holding" your left mouse button on the "Your account" link then drag it from the help menu to the "Home Page" dropping it on the "Shortcuts" bar.
After you open the webpage in your browser, you can even drag the url from the browser to your Logos Shortcuts bar to make a direct link to the website and save yourself the step of opening the About panel.
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