Logos 8 Features

Logos 8 is here! It’s available in English, Spanish, German, Portuguese, Korean, and Chinese on desktop (Windows and macOS), mobile (iOS and Android), and the web at https://app.logos.com/. Not all features are available on every platform, but we’ve worked hard to deliver a consistent experience regardless of the platform you’re on, making it easier for you to continue your study no matter where you are and which device you have with you.

Here’s an overview of what features come with Logos 8. Not all of these are in every package. Check out the feature comparison chart for a breakdown. Some of the items below were available in a subscription before but are now part of our ownable feature upgrades for the first time.

Features

Desktop

Bible Browser: We’ve added support for several new datasets in Bible Browser, enabling even richer searching: (1) Angels, Demons, and Deities, (2) Commands in the Bible, (3) Messianic Prophecies, (4) Prophets, Priests, Regents, and Judges, (5) Questions in the Bible dataset, (6) Promises in the Bible, (7) Source Criticism, (8) Systematic Theology, and (9) Theophanies.
Canvas: Visualize your Bible study. Add info cards (Word Study, Lemma, and Dictionary cards) to your Bible passages. Use special highlights and hand-drawn shapes to make your canvases look beautiful.
Concordance guide section: See all occurrences of particular tagging in your passage. You can quickly see, for example, all the questions in your passage.
Docs: The Documents menu is now the Docs panel. Open the menu as a full panel to give you more room to see the new faceted browsing sidebar, which exposes document metadata, making it easy to find just the right documents. A new Public view allows you to discover documents shared by other users. Integrated sharing makes it easy to share your documents with others.
Faithlife Assistant: Use Ctrl + Spacebar to open Faithlife Assistant, and type or speak to get help finding things in Logos like verses on hope or who was Ambrose?
Faithlife Music guide section: Find music on your passage, topic, or theme from Faithlife Music.
Go Box: The Homepage Go Box was merged with the Command Box, making it easier to do more from one place. We also added and improved some of the keyboard shortcuts, making it easier to launch into searches.
Guides: The refreshed Guides menu makes finding your favorite guides easier than ever. Type to find what you're looking for, and pin your favorites to the top for quicker access. Guides are now easily editable. Open individual guide sections as standalone guides for the times when you have a specific need and don’t need a full guide.
Guides Editor: Quickly and easily build guide templates to customize your study, and share them with others.
Homepage: A responsive, cross-platform Homepage with a Dashboard and new cards for layouts, learning plans, and workflows helps you keep track of your study. The Explore section introduces you to new content and tools.
Important Passages guide section: See all the most discussed passages related to your passage.
Important Words guide section: See all the most discussed original language words related to your passage.
Lemma in Passage guide section: Jump into your commentaries to see where they discuss key original language words from your passage.
Library: A faceted browsing sidebar makes it easy to quickly find what you’re looking for by Author, Subject, Type, and many other facets, including a new Added facet that captures how recently books were added to your library.
Media: Upload and store your own media for use in Sermon Editor and Visual Copy. Enjoy access to a wide variety of new media sets (details below).
Notes: A brand new, cross-platform Notes system stores all your notes and highlights in one place, making it create, find, and share with others.
Resource panel: A Notes & Highlights faceted sidebar allows you to filter down your resource to just the places you took notes and highlights. An improved user interface and toolbar buttons make your favorite features easier to use. A new Media visual filter shows you where you have Atlas maps, Verse of the Day graphics, and other media.
Search: New search templates make the power of advanced searching accessible to everyone. Easily favorite a search, so you can come back to it again later. A new Headword search extension allows you to search for terms or references within articles on a particular topic, a new systematic theology search extension does the same for systematic theology, the Morph Query Engine no longer requires a subscription, and indexing and searching are both faster compared to Logos 7.0.
Sermon Outlines guide section: See how others have outlined a passage of Scripture, and get help building your own sermon outline.
Theology Guide: The Theology Guide introduces a new ontology of 234 systematic theology topics, with new Topic, Theologically Related Passages, Recommended Reading, and Systematic Theologies sections.
Tools menu: A refreshed tools menu makes it easy to find what you’re looking for using the find box or by pinning your favorite tools to the top.
User Interface: Logos 8 has a familiar but fresh look and feel, and it’s almost identical to the new Logos 8 web app. Most panels have a sidebar menu on the left (☰) and a panel menu on the right (⋮), creating a consistent experience across the app.
Workflow Editor: Build and share your own workflow templates with others with the Workflow Editor.
Workflows: This flagship feature of Logos 8 guides you step by step through a variety of kinds of study, handholding you and directing you to the right tools and content each step of the way. As a new kind of guide, you’ll find Workflows in the Guides menu. All of your insights are captured in the new Notes system, which means your content is all stored in one place and easily sharable with others.

To learn more, see the Logos 8 Features page.

Web

See what’s new on the Logos 8 web app.

Mobile

See what’s new on the Logos 8 mobile app.

Content

Workflows

Basic Bible Study
Biblical Topic Study
Biblical Person Study
Biblical Place Study
Devotional
Expository Sermon Preparation
Inductive Bible Study
Lectio Divina
Passage Exegesis
Praying Scripture
Word Study

Datasets

Accents in the Greek New Testament Dataset
Angels, Demons, and Deities in the Bible Dataset
Commandments of the Law Dataset
Commands in the Bible Dataset
Important Passages Dataset
Important Words Dataset
Jesus' Fulfillment of Messianic Prophecy Dataset
Lexham Hebrew Bible: Cantillation Analysis Database
Lexham Hebrew Bible: Cantillation Analysis Graphs
Lexham Hebrew Bible: Cantillations Analysis Dataset
Noncanonical Texts' Use of the Bible
Parables of the Bible Dataset
Promises in the Bible Dataset
Prophets, Priests, Regents, and Judges Dataset
Questions in the Bible Dataset
Sentence Types of the Old Testament Dataset
Source Criticism of the Bible
Speech Acts of the Old Testament Dataset
Syllables in the Greek New Testament
Text Comparison Interlinear Deuterocanon Dataset
Text Comparison Interlinear Old Testament Dataset
Theophanies in the Bible Dataset
Weights and Measures in the Bible Dataset

Reverse Interlinears

The English-Greek Reverse Interlinear Christian Standard Bible: New Testament (CSB)
The English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Christian Standard Bible: Old Testament (CSB)
The English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Holman Christian Standard Bible: Old Testament (HCSB)
The English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament New American Standard Bible: Paragraph Version (NASBPARA)
The English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Old Testament New American Standard Bible: Paragraph Version (NASBPARA)
The English-Greek Reverse Interlinear Revised Standard Version, Second Catholic Edition: Deuterocanonical Old Testament (RSV2CE)
The English-Greek Reverse Interlinear Revised Standard Version, Second Catholic Edition: Deuterocanonical Old Testament, Variant Alignments (RSV2CE)
The English-Greek Reverse Interlinear Revised Standard Version, Second Catholic Edition: New Testament (RSV2CE)
The English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Revised Standard Version, Second Catholic Edition: Old Testament (RSV2CE)
The English-Greek Reverse Interlinear Revised Standard Version: Deuterocanonical Books (RSV)
The English-Greek Reverse Interlinear Revised Standard Version: Deuterocanonical Books, Variant Alignments (RSV)
The English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Revised Standard Version: Old Testament (RSV)

Interactives

Listen and Learn: Greek

Media

Animated videos (Biblescreen Animations, Sermon Animations, etc.)
Author Slide Templates
B. B. Warfield Media
BibleScreen Animations
Curated Online Video
Daily Audio Bible Video Collection
DeSilva Teaching Materials, Volume 2
Irenaeus Media
Jonathan Edwards Media
Lexham Bible Dictionary Videos
Lexham Survey of Theology Videos
Lexham Systematic Theology Ontology Media
Logos Media Archive, vol 2
Logos Stock Images, vol. 2
Mars Hill Media Collection
Martin Luther Media
Proclaim Starter Media
Proverbs Verse Art
QuickStart for Logos 8 Training Videos
Visual Copy Templates

Resources

B. B. Warfield: A Guide to His Life and Writings
Irenaeus: A Guide to His Life and Writings
Jonathan Edwards: A Guide to His Life and Writings
Martin Luther: A Guide to His Life and Writings
Composite Gospel: Parallel Passages (coming soon)
Lexham Survey of Theology
Lexham Geographical Commentary on Acts through Revelation (partially available)
Patrologia Graeca, vols. 1–18 (partially available)

See the library comparison chart to explore more library resources.

Documentation

Accents in the Greek New Testament Documentation
Angels, Demons, and Deities Dataset Documentation
Commands in the Bible Dataset Documentation
deSilva Teaching Materials, Volume 2 Documentation
Lemma in Passage: Dataset Documentation
Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament: Dataset Documentation
Lexham Hebrew Bible: Cantillation Analysis Documentation
Logos Curated Online Video Documentation
Noncanonical Texts’ Use of the Bible: Dataset Documentation
Parables of the Bible: Dataset Documentation
Prophets, Priests, Regents, and Judges Dataset Documentation
Syllables in the Greek New Testament Dataset Documentation
Theophanies in the Bible Documentation

For the complete list of features, datasets, interactives, and more in Logos 8, check out the Logos 8 Full Feature Upgrade. Toggle "All" to "New to You" to see only the items you don't yet have.

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Comments

Bruce Dunning

Great job team. Looking forward to the launch.

Jess Holland

Thanks, Bruce!

scooter

Thank you.

Whyndell Grizzard

How do I remove unwanted items from desktop?

Al Sosa

Hello...
Just upgraded to L8. Let's see, what word to describe this software that's great.
OK, can't find a word to describe this awesome software. I love it.

Now, the software engineers in Logos did a wonderful job. Congrats to all at Logos.

Now, the confusing part. How is it that such brilliant software engineers designed such a wonderful tool, did not include "BOOKMARKS" for reading the vast amount of books in a large library???????

I can't seem to figure out why Logos does not employ bookmarks....
Can someone in Logos please give a justified reason why bookmarks are not included???? [:(]

Otherwise, thank you for your inspirations in adding real practical tools.

Thank you...
Al Sosa

GaoLu

They thought of Bookmarks too!

Favorites
Bookmarks

Favorites
Bookmarks are quick-access temporary favorites that can be called up with a keystroke.

Favorites
You can have up to nine bookmarks at a time.

Favorites
1. In the lower third of the Favorites panel are a set of nine bookmark placeholders.

Favorites
(If you do not see numbers 1-9, and the double arrows next to Bookmarks are pointing to the right, click to expand that section.)

Favorites
2. Click on an available Bookmark to set the active resource at its current location.

Favorites
You can also drag the resource tab down to an available bookmark number or press the corresponding shortcut keys to set it.

Favorites
3. Click on an assigned bookmark to open the resource, document, etc. to the saved location.

Favorites
4. To remove a bookmark, right-click on it and choose Clear, or click on the X next to it.

John Fidel

Hi Al,

The bookmarks are in Tools and select Favorites:

Mark Smith

Al,

Faithlife provides up to nine bookmarks. You must open the Favorites Panel. (Look under the Tools Menu). At the very bottom of the Favorites panel you'll see the word Bookmarks. Click on it if it is not open.

To assign a bookmark, click on the resource you want to bookmark and use the keyboard combination indicated in the Bookmarks section.

I actually use another method that uses the Favorites Panel, as I also use a mobile device and there is no bookmark option there. In the mobile device I have just one option, "Add to Favorites". It adds the location to a Favorites folder called Mobile Favorites. This is how I bookmark on the mobile device. I send the current location to the Mobile Favorites folder.

That folder is available on my desktop Favorites Panel. When I want to 'bookmark' on the desktop, I drag the tab at the top of the resource panel to the Mobile Favorites folder on the Favorites Panel and drop it. Now I can access that bookmark on my mobile device and I can have as many 'bookmarks' as I want.

Al Sosa

Yes, I am aware of this type of bookmarks. It was my fault for not being more specific.
I'm looking more toward the right click within the book: Add Bookmark. That's it.

Using favorites, I have to move away from the book I'm reading.
I understand that I have to go to the Favorite Panel.

How about:
Right Click
Add Bookmark (within the book resource or any resource).

And that's it. Two clicks or moves. I don't have to move outside of the book I'm reading to a Favorite panel.
No keyboard combinations. Just two clicks.
But, this is what it is, no problem. Thanks all of you for responding. Maybe I'm lazy or just used to doing two clicks in other platforms.
I've been looking for this type of bookmark now for over 25 years in Logos!! Maybe I should give up...

Thank you all...
Al

GaoLu

My opinion is that every single resource should have capability for a few bookmarks. For example, sometimes my wife and I are both reading the same book at the same time. Other times I want to reference a few locations all in a big hurry. Better Bookmarks would do that.

jedi008

Will separate (or not included) workflows be available to purchase without having to buy a whole new package? I like the inductive workflow that came with the version I upgraded to and I would like the expository one as well.

Fred Chapman

Will separate (or not included) workflows be available to purchase without having to buy a whole new package? I like the inductive workflow that came with the version I upgraded to and I would like the expository one as well.

You should have a workflow titled "Expository Sermon Preparation" in the workflows menu. Also keep in mind that you can create your own custom workflows.

Graham Criddle

Will separate (or not included) workflows be available to purchase without having to buy a whole new package? I like the inductive workflow that came with the version I upgraded to and I would like the expository one as well.

You should have a workflow titled "Expository Sermon Preparation" in the workflows menu. Also keep in mind that you can create your own custom workflows.

Fred, the Expository Sermon Preparation workflow requires either the Full Feature upgrade or a Faithlife Connect subscription so may not be available to jedi008.

Jerome Smith

Rather than use bookmarks (which are too few to be useful), I use Layouts to keep track of my reading progress and update the layout when I pause my reading. I have even made more than one layout for the same resource at times. It is very easy to access layouts by just one click or so. I carefully label each layout so I can easily find the resource on my list.

Carl Smalls

I just upgraded to Logos 8 and I thought I was going to get the privilege of using the new features but the workflows are not available. I was wondering when will they be available.

David Taylor, Jr.

I just upgraded to Logos 8 and I thought I was going to get the privilege of using the new features but the workflows are not available. I was wondering when will they be available.

Which upgrade did you purchase and did you also get a feature set with it or are you a subscriber?

Dave Hooton

I just upgraded to Logos 8 and I thought I was going to get the privilege of using the new features but the workflows are not available. I was wondering when will they be available.

Workflows are found in the Guides menu

Larry

How about:
Right Click
Add Bookmark (within the book resource or any resource).

Any plans for something like this? With 9 bookmarks, I don't always remember which one I am reading. So I have to go look at which one to save it to, then go back and save it. It would be much easier and more intuitive to simply bookmark from within the book.

A right click or perhaps a button to the bar beside the visual filters and parallel resources. Make it so we can just click to bookmark.

David Medina

Now that Logos 8 is out I have the following concern.

What's the use of adding new useful features, like Canvas, while the app work sooooooo slow in OS X Mojave as t make the app unusable except for Bible reading? I don't get it. I think the #1 complaint for years is that Logos is slow and I have been faithfully waiting for an upgrade after upgrade in the hope that finally, Logis work as advertised. It seems like every update from Logos also requires an investment of a new computer in order to see it working. I am so frustrated that I have invested so much money and time in a software that has a lot of hype and little real performance improvement. In the meantime, apps like Accordance keep getting faster and faster. This will be my last Logos update as I will not keep pouring money on an app I have hardly been able to use as it keeps getting slower and slower and slower.

Reuben Helmuth

I am so frustrated that I have invested so much money and time in a software that has a lot of hype and little real performance improvement. In the meantime, apps like Accordance keep getting faster and faster. This will be my last Logos update as I will not keep pouring money on an app I have hardly been able to use as it keeps getting slower and slower and slower.

Sorry you're frustrated, David! FWIW this is the opposite of the vast majority of reports with L8. The consensus has been that it's significantly faster. I say this so that you know you're not having the "normal" experience. I don't know if it's related to Mojave or something else (I'm still on High Sierra), but it may be worth enabling diagnostic logging and uploading some logs.

Fred Chapman

Now that Logos 8 is out I have the following concern.

What's the use of adding new useful features, like Canvas, while the app work sooooooo slow in OS X Mojave as t make the app unusable except for Bible reading? I don't get it. I think the #1 complaint for years is that Logos is slow and I have been faithfully waiting for an upgrade after upgrade in the hope that finally, Logis work as advertised. It seems like every update from Logos also requires an investment of a new computer in order to see it working. I am so frustrated that I have invested so much money and time in a software that has a lot of hype and little real performance improvement. In the meantime, apps like Accordance keep getting faster and faster. This will be my last Logos update as I will not keep pouring money on an app I have hardly been able to use as it keeps getting slower and slower and slower.

As Reuban said, most users are experiencing better performance with L8. I run the program on my Windows 10 desktop, and on my macbook air with Mojave installed. I have seen performance improvement on both. Perhaps diagnostic logging would reveal some clues as to what you are experiencing.

Austin Meier

I'm not sure if this is the place for feature requests or not, but I would love to see a tool such as Spritzlet https://www.spritzlet.com/ or Kindle's Wordrunner https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201852380 incorporated into the Logos Mobile and Desktop Apps. These dramatically increase reading speed. Reaedsy http://www.readsy.co/# is a workaround, but not ideal.

Dave Hooton

I'm not sure if this is the place for feature requests or not

A new thread is much better, but https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7 is used for desktop features and https://logosmobile.uservoice.com/forums/190765-logos-mobile-apps/filters/top for Mobile features (the Logos wiki has a sidebar with these links under Help Development).

Jerry Smith

A new thread is much better, but

. . . didn't know where to find that "new thread" for features, but, here's something I'd find most helpful . . .

With multiple resources opened, it would be great if a single-click on these arrows would move through the open resources, rather than a single-click and only advancing one resource at a time.

Dave Hooton

A new thread is much better, but
. . . didn't know where to find that "new thread"

At the top right of a Forum like Logos 8 is "Write a new post" = start a new thread

Batman

I've been with Logos/Faithlife whoever they are calling themselves this, since Libronix days, Logos 3. While certainly not the first person, obviously, to use a digital Bible, I have always been one of less than 3 people to have a laptop in church, as a Bible. Now I'm one of many. The point I am attempting to make is, I'm not brand new to digital Bibles; however, since my purchase of L3, I have been anything but appreciative of digital Bibles. So much so, that my Bible reading time has suffered. Seriously, it is quicker for me to manually look up a passage than to use Logos. The complete opposite reason I spent a fortune on this "research assistant". I have kept yelling about it; great people have offered me advice, and to no avail. It had become a huge money pit, and despite all the so called cool features, and all the books I can never read by the end of eternity (and I have just hit the 2000 mark in Dec. so, relatively small to most everyone else here) that I decided last year to buy about 8 physical Bibles to replace Logos.
Starting with L7, my hatred for Logos diminished. But, my time with God and his word has suffered dramatically. Even with L7 I could not open Logos within 5 minutes. When it did decided to open, it took just as long to get to the passage. I need to copy/paste a verse? Google was that answer, NOT Logos.
Logos is so overwhelming, as a library, and so underwhelming in performance. I purchased a new laptop, that allowed me to open Logos quickly: 1 and a half to 2 minutes. With L8, however, it opens in 20-40 seconds, tops. Even better, exaggerating, a bit, with the searching, it's practically up, before I even hit "enter". Seriously, with no exaggeration, by the time I do hit Enter, I have the results I am looking for.
I'm very pleased with L8's speed. There are some other issues I have; but, I am FINALLY after close to 10 years, am getting close to having the desire to even open a Bible, and a digital one at that. Unfortunately, I have allowed my frustration for Logos to keep me from my Bible reading and research. But, I am slowly regaining that blazing hot desire I once had-- still, it is merely warming up. But, I am seeing that desire come back.

I don't know if I have offered any help or not. But, the point is, I completely understand the frustration you face. I picked up a free version of Accordance, but, have not used it but once. I have enough money sunk into Logos, that I cannot bare the thought of never using it again. But, with the frustration factor (on speed, anyway) I feel that things are FINALLY beginning to pay off. Having the Logos Now/Connect (and, once again, Whatever name they are calling this subscription service, this week) I feel I am "future proofed", without having to come up with $400-800 at one time (THAT will never happen again!) and, I can get the learning I need (via mobile ed) to finally get my theological degree.

Once again, to get to the point, I understand the frustration, and because I am finally beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel, and that it is not a locomotive aiming to run my hiney down, I feel I can offer some hope, and some advice.
1. Do not spend money on ANY digital Bible software, until you can upgrade to a solid device that can handle the requirements.
2. Do not spend money on ANY digital Bible software, until you can afford to learn how to use it.
I'm not advocating Morris' lessons. He is probably the best, but, in my opinion, if one has to spend $400 just to learn how to use the software, that is a problem. If you can afford it, that is up to you. But, there are others, much cheaper, and willing to go the distance for you and with you. John Fallahee is one. I think he is $80-100.
3. Most importantly, do NOT allow Satan to frustrate you to the point I allowed him to frustrate me. TEN years I barely opened up ANY Bible, due to the frustration.

God bless

Now that Logos 8 is out I have the following concern.

What's the use of adding new useful features, like Canvas, while the app work sooooooo slow in OS X Mojave as t make the app unusable except for Bible reading? I don't get it. I think the #1 complaint for years is that Logos is slow and I have been faithfully waiting for an upgrade after upgrade in the hope that finally, Logis work as advertised. It seems like every update from Logos also requires an investment of a new computer in order to see it working. I am so frustrated that I have invested so much money and time in a software that has a lot of hype and little real performance improvement. In the meantime, apps like Accordance keep getting faster and faster. This will be my last Logos update as I will not keep pouring money on an app I have hardly been able to use as it keeps getting slower and slower and slower.

David Medina

Truly appreciate your comments. I too dread opening Logos 8 to do anything. I know I have to start the program around 15 minutes before I plan to use it to allow the program to actually settle so it can be used. And still, is sluggish.

I am a photographer by trade. I think a computer that it is used to edit 4K video should be able to run a database program like Logos. I have also taken courses on how to use Logos.

I also own Accordance and whenever I want to do something that requires to be snappy I choose Accordance over Logos every time. Running on the same computers, Accordance is 1000 times faster than Logos.

If Logos users are honest, I wonder how much of the "glam features" they keep adding to the app is actually used and useful. They just add more complexity and overhead to an already bloated app. I trade all those fancy features for an app that actually makes me use it to study the Bible. I made the upgrade to Logos 8 on the promise that it was faster. Well, Logos has cost me thousands of dollars and the only thing I can say is that I own Logos 8 because I hardly use it. For me, still not paying off.

David Taylor, Jr.

Truly appreciate your comments. I too dread opening Logos 8 to do anything. I know I have to start the program around 15 minutes before I plan to use it to allow the program to actually settle so it can be used. And still, is sluggish.

I am a photographer by trade. I think a computer that it is used to edit 4K video should be able to run a database program like Logos. I have also taken courses on how to use Logos.

I also own Accordance and whenever I want to do something that requires to be snappy I choose Accordance over Logos every time. Running on the same computers, Accordance is 1000 times faster than Logos.

If Logos users are honest, I wonder how much of the "glam features" they keep adding to the app is actually used and useful. They just add more complexity and overhead to an already bloated app. I trade all those fancy features for an app that actually makes me use it to study the Bible. I made the upgrade to Logos 8 on the promise that it was faster. Well, Logos has cost me thousands of dollars and the only thing I can say is that I own Logos 8 because I hardly use it. For me, still not paying off.

Actually I believe he was saying L8 opens faster. It opens in about 30 seconds for me. I have Accordance and it is worthless as a tool. Not logical. I use most of the new features in L8 believe it or not. A lot of the speed depends on your computer hardware.

MJ. Smith

Well, Logos has cost me thousands of dollars and the only thing I can say is that I own Logos 8 because I hardly use it.

So ask on the forums how to do what YOU want to do on Logos or to find out that you're actually more of a dead-tree format student ... as I am in several aspects.

Al Sosa

Hello David...
I've been using Logos now for 30 years! When it first was released, it was a little bulky. Right now I use it daily. It takes my computer 15 seconds to load. That's why in the beginning, I knew that if I buy a regular PC, it would slow it down. So, I bought a gaming computer with powerful features like a good amount of memory.
As for the features, this depends on your particular expectations and your particular purpose of using L8. I teach and pastor a small congregation and I design courses for our church. Logos has been a God sent to me. My expectations are high and my particular use is demanding. So Logos is it. I too have Accordance. To me it is useful, but Logos is the right tool for me. True, L8 is not for the faint hearted. It is for serious bible study. And this is my use of the product. To me it works wonderfully. If L9 comes out next year, I'm getting it.

But David, you use what you need. And your expectations are different than many in the forum. Whatever you have, use it for the glory of God and your ministry to edify people. If L8 is not your tool, then use Accordance. It will work for you too.

Be blessed...

Al Sosa

Rev. Donald Quigley

I have been a loyal Logos & Faithlife customer since Libronix. I have invested over $8000 in my Logos Bible Software and I am an avid user of Proclaim. I tell you this because I am perturbed that since I upgraded to Logos 8 I am now being told that the level I already own and paid for (Portfolio) is an additional $1700 in Logos 8. This has never happened before in all of the upgrades I have done throughout the years. Upgrading through Logos 5, 6, and 7 never altered my existing program level. It is almost as if you created a new Level between Portfolio and Collectors edition. I already paid over one thousand dollars for Portfolio when I had Logos 7 now in Logos 8 I am told I have to pay an additional $1700 for Portfolio even though I already own it. I am baffled and not well pleased.

David Taylor, Jr.

I have been a loyal Logos & Faithlife customer since Libronix. I have invested over $8000 in my Logos Bible Software and I am an avid user of Proclaim. I tell you this because I am perturbed that since I upgraded to Logos 8 I am now being told that the level I already own and paid for (Portfolio) is an additional $1700 in Logos 8. This has never happened before in all of the upgrades I have done throughout the years. Upgrading through Logos 5, 6, and 7 never altered my existing program level. It is almost as if you created a new Level between Portfolio and Collectors edition. I already paid over one thousand dollars for Portfolio when I had Logos 7 now in Logos 8 I am told I have to pay an additional $1700 for Portfolio even though I already own it. I am baffled and not well pleased.

Portfolio is just a library collection so you would be getting a substantial amount of additional resources for $1700. You don't have to upgrade to the Portfolio library, you can just buy the features.

John Fidel

I have been a loyal Logos & Faithlife customer since Libronix. I have invested over $8000 in my Logos Bible Software and I am an avid user of Proclaim. I tell you this because I am perturbed that since I upgraded to Logos 8 I am now being told that the level I already own and paid for (Portfolio) is an additional $1700 in Logos 8. This has never happened before in all of the upgrades I have done throughout the years. Upgrading through Logos 5, 6, and 7 never altered my existing program level. It is almost as if you created a new Level between Portfolio and Collectors edition. I already paid over one thousand dollars for Portfolio when I had Logos 7 now in Logos 8 I am told I have to pay an additional $1700 for Portfolio even though I already own it. I am baffled and not well pleased.

Hi Donald,

I think this is easily misunderstood. Think of the Logos 8 as a feature and program upgrade. Then think of each of the different library offerings as an opportunity to purchase additional books and resources that interest you. You keep all your resources no matter which library you choose to upgrade to. You do not have to upgrade to Portfolio to keep your current library, you just add the additional resource available in the L8 package.

On each package page is a "new to you" drop down so you can see what additional resources you get for the $1,700. Look at other packages that may suite your interests and or budget and you can get the program upgrade and books you want given your budget.

Hopefully this puts this in a more palatable light. If not, post back.

Levi Durfey

Welcome to the forums, Donald...

In addition to David and John's comments, you might find this article helpful: https://blog.logos.com/2018/11/4-myths-logos-truth-upgrading/

David Roth

Logos 8 claims to be faster. Is it? Can you actually find anything with it? I downloaded basic. Waiting to restart Logos because it is indexing. (It said it was 88% indexed but suddenly it is down to only 26%. I think that is all it ever does).

David Roth

Batman and David:

I so agree. I just never open Logos. I use Biblegateway to look anything up. And I open a few books. Too slow, and then stuff jumps around, it's in little stupid boxes too small to read. You cannot look up Greek or Hebrew words because the search box does not recognize them.

Arggh. Glad it know that it is not me alone.

David Taylor, Jr.

Batman and David:

I so agree. I just never open Logos. I use Biblegateway to look anything up. And I open a few books. Too slow, and then stuff jumps around, it's in little stupid boxes too small to read. You cannot look up Greek or Hebrew words because the search box does not recognize them.

Arggh. Glad it know that it is not me alone.

What are your computer specifications? That can have a lot to do with the speed. Logos 8 is MUCH faster than L7 in my opinion. I do not wait nearly as long for things. There have also been people run diagnostics to compare and have verified this is the case on their machine as well.

Dave Hooton

You cannot look up Greek or Hebrew words because the search box does not recognize them.

Can you elaborate on this. A screenshot would help.

David Medina

Hi David,

What you describe is certainly not normal behavior. Logos will index anytime you do book upgrades. You can pause the indexing at any time if it slows down while using it. You should contact support.

As an update, once I did manual indexing the app is working much better. The slow down I experience is mainly when I start the app but once is up and running it works well. Which tells me that as soon as a replace my current HD with an SSD Logos will rock.

David Medina

Thanks.

Fred Chapman

Thanks.

I'm not sure who you are responding to here. It's usually a good idea to quote all or the relevant portion of a post you are replying to.

Here is a short screencast in case you are not sure how to do that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaP9w_a0f8w

Batman

Logos 8 claims to be faster. Is it? Can you actually find anything with it? I downloaded basic. Waiting to restart Logos because it is indexing. (It said it was 88% indexed but suddenly it is down to only 26%. I think that is all it ever does).

I have to say it is. My old old computer, it took about 6 minutes between start up and ready to use. The old new computer it took about 60 to 90 seconds. After a few months I "baptized" it, and had to get my new new computer. It opens and is ready to usually 20-30 seconds.

I cant say I've experienced the symptoms you are describing. Not in Logos, anyway. I have had to figure out PDFs from my Dr. that are so small you couldnt read it under a powerful microscope; Indexing issues, Ive not had like that, but, I have had similar with "updating" or "preparing" library. Had to call support. As suggested elsewhere, support may not be a bad idea. You might need to even have to give permission to remotely access your computer (kinda freaky, first couple times but, Logos is more trustworthy than most companies) so, you may want to consider that. Logos support is awesome; they had to fix a Windows issue-- which was cool, because, once again, most companies leave it at "It's not our problem", but, they fixed it.

Hoping it works for you.