Feature: Draw on Screen on iPad

OK, thank you for the replies.

David Thomas said:

Ali Pope said:

We’d love to hear your thoughts on this new feature. Please provide your feedback in the comments below.

E-ink on Microsoft Surface with stylus? We've only been pleading 10 years (Since L5) - https://community.logos.com/forums/p/67806/471833.aspx#471833 

You do know about https://wiki.logos.com/Drawing_Mode , right? That's of course only part of what this feature does on iPad. I guess to save you would need to make a screenshot...

Do you need the bronze package if you are subscribed to Logos Connect?

For those of us Android users...a workaround perhaps.

It sounds like the iPad takes a screenshot and then you can annotate it. Android can already do this. Take a screenshot, then annotate the image.

I'm using a Samsung S7+ and it basically does this automatically. I can capture a part of the screen, mark it up, then save it...then load it into anote.

The other option is to do a "Write on Screen", mark it up, then save it as an image, then add it to the note. 

Not sure this is exactly the same workflow, but it does give the option to mark up the text like a regular book.

I've been dreaming of this feature for years, but to clarify:

1) Only an image of the handwriting can be saved

2) The handwriting does not save in Logos itself

Is that correct?

T

David Mullens said:

For those of us Android users...a workaround perhaps.

It sounds like the iPad takes a screenshot and then you can annotate it. Android can already do this. Take a screenshot, then annotate the image.

I'm using a Samsung S7+ and it basically does this automatically. I can capture a part of the screen, mark it up, then save it...then load it into anote.

The other option is to do a "Write on Screen", mark it up, then save it as an image, then add it to the note. 

Not sure this is exactly the same workflow, but it does give the option to mark up the text like a regular book.

Thanks, figured there had to be a way as Android phones and tablets have had these capabilities for over a decade.  Wonder why we get treated like the red headed step child? 

The issue is, it is presented as a feature and the above menu options are only available if you have bronze and above. This is kinda lame as the API for iPad OS is free for devs to use. so even if it’s a screenshot or whatever, we can’t use it unless we drop another $277. This was not disclosed on the main page or in the features List. 

A. E. Harmon said:

How can we get logos to make these markups stay on / in our favorite Bible? It seems kind of pointless if they go away or have to be saved as a note. Ideally, it would be amazing to have a digital Bible like the esv Scripture journal that keeps all of your mark ups.

This is what I truly want also. I wish my hand drawn notes could be a visual filter I turn on and off. But I don’t think they can do this. 

JT (alabama24) said:

One issue is simply that electronic books don't have set typography. If you change the window pane, change the type size or font family, the layout changes. To implement a more permanent version of this would require that not to be the case. 

As I understand Logos, under the hood, it's a graphics engine. All the markups are graphics, in various ways. Attached to the text flows (however rendered).  Programming wise, it's not particularly difficult, if you plan for the capability. Logos didn't. 

But that said, I'm not sure the market (remember Bob arguing notes should be short little comments in 2009?!). Then, they had to re-program. Maps re-done 3 times, I think.

In my software, I have embedded image editing. Text re-writing. And text-overlays (drawing lines between words, even pages). But over time, I mainly use the line overlays. Scrawling handwriting over text is cute, but ???.  Amazon's new Scribe allows it for PDFs, but not Kindle books (packaged image as a note). I very much doubt, that idea will 'take' (vs a regular tablet and PDFs).

JT (alabama24) said:

So the same as Logos? 

Logos supports PDFs? Or Logos supports handwriting on PDFs.  I'm confused ... I think neither?  I'd REALLY like a Scribe if it supported write-over text (not just stickies).

JT (alabama24) said:

Your "drawing lines" are computer drawn, right? Not handwritten? 

Yes. I 'can' do handwriting (attaches to a text start point; chop depend right or bottom).  So, my 'version', this thread wouldn't like.  I was mainly just testing if it'd add mental benefit to my studying.  On any day, I'm 90% handwriting (my iPad), 10% keyboard (like right now).  I ended up with text notes with easy multi-attach, including from searches. The over-text drawing code is 'there'; probable buggy by now.

Regarding lines, computer drawn, user assigned.  You multi-select a series of text-points, select color/style/curviture, and it stores the list (same as storing a highlight, except multiple).  Cross-page is handled by on-the-fly start/end points computing the  normal angle.  My primary use is outlining points in the text, logic-flow, and 'terrible arguments'(!).  

So, programming-wise, not a big issue.  I'd assume for FL, it'd be a look/feel issue, market?, and platform issues.

I would love to be able to annotate sermons via Apple Pencil/stylus. I use Noteshelf for this purpose and it works great. The inability to do this in Logos keeps me from using it for preaching.

When will this be available on android?

Are there any keyboard shortcuts (I use an Apple Magic Keyboard with my iPad Pro) to enter "Draw on Screen" mode.

That would make it much more user friendly in an educational setting.

Are there any keyboard shortcuts (I use an Apple Magic Keyboard with my iPad Pro) to enter "Draw on Screen" mode.

That would make it much more user friendly in an educational setting.

It’s been a while since this came out, so I wanted to share it’s now available on iPhones and Desktops!
It would be nice if the markings stayed like they do in Word and Power Point so all links are still active and if you jump to another page and you come back to the page you drew on, markings will still be there 👍

DAL

Yeah, it’s at least cool to make quick graphics. 

Agreed, the feature on desktop is quite anemic compared to ipad. Grateful we have something though

Note, I use a laptop that can fold into a tablet (Thinkpad X1 Yoga), and often find myself using the desktop application while in tablet mode with my laptop - all of that to say that having better parity between the drawn on screen features of ipad vs desktop would be appreciated by me!