NOTES or Notebooks? That is the question.
I posted this under "SIUGGESTION" already. Support it please.
I have complained for years about the confusion regarding the terminology. Notes or Notebooks. Those two terms are used interchangeably sometimes in ERROR. FIT IT. PLEASE!
I have had numerous responses affirming my point.
I have a solution.
When we make a NOTEBOOK, what we are really doing is creating our own THEME. Then we add NOTES to it. That is profound as we discover THEMES in Scripture!
And this makes sense to us not-so-literate computer users.
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Notebooks are full of notes, and notes are are stored in notebooks. I really don't see the confusion. THEMEs would be a completely unatural anaolgy to real world notes and notebooks.
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Maybe you might want to create a title for your Notebooks that are expressly according to what you consider a theme. Right now most of my Notebooks are for given books of the Bible or some unifying topic or study. The actual title you give a Notebook is all that's needed.
Organization is mostly about your use, not quite as much as by what it is called.
The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter
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I have not taken time to understand over the years. I just make notes. I dont put them in notebooks. I guess I have one notebook? I have never understood why you need more than one. In physical Bibles, you write notes. In logos, you write digital notes. Why does it have to be complicated by adding different notebooks? I am sure this is all simple and obvious to the majority. But I am also sure some are like me and just think that notetaking has been made complicated by adding notebooks.
Now if notebooks are like personal books, then I could possibly understand.
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Mark said:
Why does it have to be complicated by adding different notebooks?
One of the reasons is that you can share notebooks. I may not want to share all of my random notes on every book in my library but if I were leading a Bible study on Galatians, I might want to share just those notes. To make that work, though, I need a separate notebook for Galatians.
I don't sort notebooks by theme but by purpose, so the suggested terminology would not be helpful for me. Just like I have composition notebooks with lots of notes on them, I have digital notebooks with notes.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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Thanks Mark. I title my "NOTEBOOKS" like I would a paper 3-ring binder. Maybe that's the wrong thing to do. So I currently have over 100 "NOTEBOOKS" all titled by my personal tag. Then I add "NOTES" into that NOTEBOOK. So in my "NOTEBOOK" called "SOVERINGITY" I have added 464 passages as NOTES.
I got into computers because I thot they would follow the KISS system. But those 2 words are so close and often used wrong in the FORUM.
I think if "NOTEBOOKS" were called THEMES it would clear up the use of this system.
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Your THEME is Galatians. Thats easy peezy. Or Galatians 1 to 4. THEME and PURPOSE are the same thing. Synonyms
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Rick Ratzlaff said:
I think if "NOTEBOOKS" were called THEMES it would clear up the use of this system.
Unfortunately, themes are NOT how I organize my notebooks; I use tags for themes. My Notebooks are organized by project just as my notebooks and files were when I was working. I think of notebooks as 3-ring binders ... which in my part of the world are often called notebooks. I think of notes as the sheets of paper in those binders. The terminology is natural for my part of the country but one thing I learned in college was that there is lots of variety in how terms are used depending upon where you are from. I'd never heard of an hourly ... or of a pony ... but I did know a crib sheet and a test.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Mark said:
In physical Bibles, you write notes.
Actually, I never write in a Bible ... I have too much respect for it.
Mark said:I guess I have one notebook?
Exactly, and from the sounds of it, that is probably the ideal solution for you. I organize some of my notes around projects -- and each project has its own notebook. Notes not related to a specific project are not in a notebook.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I have come close to deleting all my Notebooks, now that we can quickly use filters to gather groups of Notes.
The sole remaining use for Notebooks is to share them as Documents on Faithlife, where others have found them useful.
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Jack Hairston said:
The sole remaining use for Notebooks is to share them as Documents on Faithlife
They are also the level at which display of notes and highlights can be toggled within resources
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I'm interested, Graham. Could you expand on that?
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Jack Hairston said:
I'm interested, Graham. Could you expand on that?
In the resource visual filter menu you can enable Notes and Highlights and, within that, choose which notebooks are selected. This allows you to only show specific notes and highlights if you wish.
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Hmmm. I see how that can be useful if you filter for the Notebook "Emphasis Markup" for a certain Bible Book.
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Here's an example of how I use it.
Some time ago I did a study through the Gospels looking at where / how Jesus demonstrated / modelled / taught about different aspects of discipleship and what response was likely from the disciples. I used a range of labels and put all the associated highlights in a Notebook Whole-life discipleship.
Now, with that notebook enabled, when I look at Matthew 5, for example, the labels are shown
But, If I want to not focus on that - but still retain sight of other notes and highlights - I can just deselect that notebook and the highlights are hidden
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Thank you, Graham. I always appreciate your insights.
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MJ. Smith said:
Exactly, and from the sounds of it, that is probably the ideal solution for you. I organize some of my notes around projects -- and each project has its own notebook. Notes not related to a specific project are not in a notebook.
MJ
If I had notebooks, would it still be possible to export or print all my notes at once? In other words, if I had a notebook for every book of the Bible, would I still be able to export or print out all my notes at once -- or would they need to be printed out one notebook at a time?
I don't see a need for more than one notebook. But if did, I would want to be sure that all notes could be saved (printed or made into a pdf) as one document. I fear not being able to export my notes one day if I no longer want them in the software.
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Mark said:
If I had notebooks, would it still be possible to export or print all my notes at once? In other words, if I had a notebook for every book of the Bible, would I still be able to export or print out all my notes at once -- or would they need to be printed out one notebook at a time?
You could still print / export them all out in one go - you would do this from the Notes Tool without having selected a notebook.
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Thanks, Graham
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Thanks Graham I was getting ready to raise this point as to why I used Named notebooks and dislike the approach of not having notes in named notebooks.
In regards to the OP’s suggestion I think as others have pointed out themes is too restrictive a term. I see nothing wrong with the term Notebook as a collection of individual notes.
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To me, Notebooks seems logical. Create a Notebook (like a tab in a 3-ring binder) and put notes in it.
Themes, to me anyway, would confuse that process. Possibly themes could be used to have all the fonts, colors and such all the same in a Notebook.... kind of like a template of sorts??? Seems like a bit of work to me....
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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Mark said:
I have not taken time to understand over the years. I just make notes. I dont put them in notebooks. I guess I have one notebook? I have never understood why you need more than one. In physical Bibles, you write notes. In logos, you write digital notes. Why does it have to be complicated by adding different notebooks? I am sure this is all simple and obvious to the majority. But I am also sure some are like me and just think that notetaking has been made complicated by adding notebooks.
Now if notebooks are like personal books, then I could possibly understand.
This was my original reaction to the whole idea of notes and notebooks, as coming from making marginal notes I just had to remember which of only about a dozen Bibles I might have made the note in. [:)].
Today I am conformed to the Logosian way of doing things now that I have way over 200 Bibles to choose from.[:D]
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Mark said:
I have not taken time to understand over the years. I just make notes. I dont put them in notebooks. I guess I have one notebook? I have never understood why you need more than one. In physical Bibles, you write notes. In logos, you write digital notes. Why does it have to be complicated by adding different notebooks? I am sure this is all simple and obvious to the majority. But I am also sure some are like me and just think that notetaking has been made complicated by adding notebooks.
Now if notebooks are like personal books, then I could possibly understand.
I am with you Mark! I have made notebooks ( I know how) but lately I rely mostly on the different symbols I use as tags when I anchor my notes to a verse... a star is an illustration, a sticky is observations / questions about the passage, and a triangle is a sermon I have put in a note form and anchored to a passage... I used to put them in separate notebooks, but since I have the distinct tags.. often I forget to assign a notebook...
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