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Jeff | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2016 1:28 PM

It looks there's no Catholic Studies expansion package yet. Is there any chance that we'll see a Library Expansion akin to the old "Logos 6 Catholic Studies Bundle" in the future?

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mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2016 5:13 PM

Too many old books from early 1700-1800s & not enough "recent" books for me.

Meh

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2016 5:18 PM

mike:

Too many old books from early 1700-1800s & not enough "recent" books.

Someone raised the point that it's become harder to discount/bundle some of the more recent books

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Sean | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2016 6:02 PM

mike:

Too many old books from early 1700-1800s & not enough "recent" books for me.

Meh

The theology bundles are extremely "meh". Denominational base packages provide a much better range of useful works.

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Vincent Chia | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2016 6:04 PM

Most of the stuff in the Logos 7 expansion bundles are just "bloat." Very few useful books in each bundle. But it also depends on what we are looking for. For example, the Theological Bundle S is well worth the price for the Theocratic Kingdom (3 vols). So the key is to look closely at what is being offered. It is worth your time to research the individual items in each bundle.

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Sean | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2016 7:15 PM

Vincent Chia:
For example, the Theological Bundle S is well worth the price for the Theocratic Kingdom (3 vols).

It's an extremely niche work useful primarily for people interested in 19th century dispensationalism. Even at that price, most people would be better served by other works--even if they want dispensationalism.

For me, this & Rushdoony (Hmm) are the only significant sets I'd get with the XL package. Granted, I have a lot of theology works already. BUT for people looking to expand a base Logos library so that they have a well-rounded range of useful theology works--these bundles are are pretty much the opposite of that.

ETA: By way of contrast: I got the Logos 6 XL Theology Bundle: it had some filler, a good number of moderately to very useful volumes, and a great deal on Pannenberg's ST. Pannenberg! The present bundle doesn't have anything remotely comparable.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2016 7:57 PM

It's not merely a problem with 1700s and 1800s filler. In one bundle, FL included a cheaper 2003 edition of a book, instead of the more expensive revised 2006 edition.

Sadly disappointing this version, considering that the L6 bundles had a much better selection of books worth purchasing.

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Robert Peters | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 30 2016 7:41 AM

PetahChristian:

mike:

Too many old books from early 1700-1800s & not enough "recent" books.

Someone raised the point that it's become harder to discount/bundle some of the more recent books

very good point. No reformed or baptist bundle?

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Average Joe | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 30 2016 12:03 PM

Robert Peters:

very good point. No reformed or baptist bundle?

It doesn't look like there are any denomination-focused expansion packs.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 30 2016 2:11 PM

Average Joe:

Robert Peters:

very good point. No reformed or baptist bundle?

It doesn't look like there are any denomination-focused expansion packs.

In L6, these were called topical bundles. In L7, they're no longer called topical bundles, but they still are topical in nature (at least to start), and there is a master bundle containing each topic's resources.

Whether FL will add denomination-based expansion packs under the same category as these is uncertain.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 30 2016 6:41 PM

Average Joe:

It doesn't look like there are any denomination-focused expansion packs.

Why should there, when we already have denominational base packages?

A missiology expansion pack would have been interesting, or denominational expansion packs that have no base packages (such as Restoration Movement).

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 30 2016 8:14 PM

Jan Krohn:

Average Joe:

It doesn't look like there are any denomination-focused expansion packs.

Why should there, when we already have denominational base packages?

That was my thinking, however FL had offered denominational expansion bundles for L6.

I recall a Lutheran collection, but I believe only a couple of the denominations had them.

I imagine it was just another way for FL to sell resources that hadn't made it in to their denominational library.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 8:03 AM

There's a maths problem in Church Fathers S...

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Justin Gatlin | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 8:13 AM

Jan Krohn:

There's a maths problem in Church Fathers S...

The L7 base packages have that same problem, and have since launch. They say dynamic pricing is working and seem uninterested in fixing the total value and are committed to showing partial collections, no matter how little is included (the cause of the discrepancy). Doing the math on our own is an inconvenience, but I would not hold my breath for a fix at this point.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 10:44 AM

PetahChristian:
I recall a Lutheran collection, but I believe only a couple of the denominations had them.

Best to my recollection we had;

  • Anglican
  • Baptist
  • Lutheran
  • Methodist & Wesleyan
  • Orthodox
  • Pentecostal & Charismatic
  • Reformed
  • SDA
  • Verbum 

We never got a Restoration Movement package. Sad

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 11:40 AM

Matthew C Jones:

PetahChristian:
I recall a Lutheran collection, but I believe only a couple of the denominations had them.

Best to my recollection we had;

  • Anglican
  • Baptist
  • Lutheran
  • Methodist & Wesleyan
  • Orthodox
  • Pentecostal & Charismatic
  • Reformed
  • SDA
  • Verbum 

We never got a Restoration Movement package. Sad

Hmm. Either they were phased out, or very well-hidden for L6. I never knew of a P&C library expansion bundle.

I can only assume they didn't have enough books to have made a P&C Platinum library, since base packages tend to have better (cost per book) discounts.

Perhaps that's the reason why they offered denominational bundles in addition to libraries, because they make more profit off of the bundles.

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 5:40 PM

Martin Folley:
https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=%22Library+Expansion%22+%22Logos+7%22&start=&sort=title&pageSize=60

Thanks for this, Martin. It is very helpful.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 6:29 PM

PetahChristian:

Matthew C Jones:

PetahChristian:
I recall a Lutheran collection, but I believe only a couple of the denominations had them.

Best to my recollection we had;

  • Anglican
  • Baptist
  • Lutheran
  • Methodist & Wesleyan
  • Orthodox
  • Pentecostal & Charismatic
  • Reformed
  • SDA
  • Verbum 

We never got a Restoration Movement package. Sad

Hmm. Either they were phased out, or very well-hidden for L6. I never knew of a P&C library expansion bundle.

Matthew's recalling the L6 base packages, not the L6 bundles. The L6 bundles were:

  • Logos 6 New Testament Studies Bundle
  • Logos 6 Old Testament Studies Bundle
  • Logos 6 Greek Studies Bundle
  • Logos 6 Ancient Texts and Translations Bundle
  • Logos 6 Bible Backgrounds Bundle
  • Logos 6 Church History Bundle
  • Logos 6 Church Fathers Bundle
  • Logos 6 Preaching and Sermons Bundle
  • Logos 6 Theology Bundle
  • Logos 6 Philosophy and Apologetics Bundle
  • Logos 6 Pastoral Care and Counseling Bundle
  • Logos 6 Hebrew Studies Bundle
  • Logos 6 Jewish Studies Bundle
  • Logos 6 Orthodox Studies Bundle
  • Logos 6 Lutheran Studies Bundle
  • Logos 6 Reformed Studies Bundle
  • Logos 6 Baptist Studies Bundle
  • Logos 6 Anglican Studies Bundle
  • Logos 6 Catholic Studies Bundle

There were no P&C, Wesleyan or SDA bundles.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 6:55 PM
Ah, the (Lutheran) Studies bundle. I knew I had seen something that was denominational. Thanks for setting us straight!
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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 6:59 PM

Mark Barnes:
Matthew's recalling the L6 base packages, not the L6 bundles. The L6 bundles were:

You are correct, Mark. I got the Master Topical Bundle XL so I forgot about all the individual Topical Bundles. I am sorry for being confused.

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