Bringing Your BibleWorks User Content to Logos

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 13 2018 7:47 PM

I can imagine that there may be a lot of BibleWorks questions. Maybe create a BibleWorks section in the forums, and call it something like "BibleWorks Users". This way all questions relating to Logos for users of BibleWorks would be funneled to one forum section. Just a suggestion.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 13 2018 7:55 PM

Great idea 

Erwin Stull, Sr.:

I can imagine that there may be a lot of BibleWorks questions. Maybe create a BibleWorks section in the forums, and call it something like "BibleWorks Users". This way all questions relating to Logos for users of BibleWorks would be funneled to one forum section. Just a suggestion.

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Mark Ward | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 14 2018 4:21 PM

@Mark Fuss, a few years ago I made the same transition you're making, from using BibleWorks for all textual work to using Logos for that work. Logos has a slightly different approach here. It "generates reports" in its guides. The Exegetical Guide is probably the closest approximation, and you can watch a training video on that tool here:

https://www.logos.com/logos-pro/exegetical-guide

The tool looks up lexemes automatically, provides links to textual-critical information, shows where your passage is discussed in grammars, and does other great stuff. And the guide is editable, just like the BibleWorks Report Generator. You can customize any of our guides, in fact. But I'd start with the Exegetical Guide if you like the Report Generator in BW.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 1 2018 1:56 PM

We're testing our notes importing functionality internally and will be ready for some folks to test it externally soon. Reply to this post and let me know if you're interested in testing it. I'll provide further details once we're ready for external testers.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 3 2018 7:17 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We're testing our notes importing functionality internally and will be ready for some folks to test it externally soon. Reply to this post and let me know if you're interested in testing it. I'll provide further details once we're ready for external testers.

Anyone?

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 3 2018 7:32 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We're testing our notes importing functionality internally and will be ready for some folks to test it externally soon. Reply to this post and let me know if you're interested in testing it. I'll provide further details once we're ready for external testers.

Anyone?

My observation from what I’ve seen: I guess either there aren’t that many BibleWorks users moving to Logos  or the “A” company took them all since they created their notes import tool within a matter of just a few short days after BW’s demise.  In other words, Logos is taking too long to make this tool available thus making the competition look more appealing to those who want to import their notes now and not later.  In either case, thanks for trying 👍😁👌

DAL

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 4 2018 2:54 AM

I am interested, but have been traveling extensively with minimal internet access AND a struggling 2011 Macbook Air. When I get home, I'm moving, but after September I'll be settled and will buy a new imac whenever they come out. 

"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 4 2018 5:40 PM

DAL:
I guess either there aren’t that many BibleWorks users moving to Logos

We've actually had quite a few BW users get a Logos package, but I'd guess most of them aren't on our forums.

I was hoping some of the forum regulars were previous BW users (as I was years ago) or have used BW alongside Logos and were interested in bringing their notes over and helping us test it before we ship it to everyone.

I think we've worked out the issues through internal testing, so we're probably in good shape. But it's always good to have extra testers give it a try to make sure we didn't miss anything.

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Jeannie Koh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 4 2018 6:13 PM

Hi Phil,

I really appreciate all that you and Logos are doing.  I have no issue with BW to Logos as I have been using both concurrently. But I am happy to be a tester for this to help troubleshoot anything. Just let me know. In Christ, with gratitude, j
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 4 2018 6:24 PM

Jeannie Koh:

Hi Phil,

I really appreciate all that you and Logos are doing.  I have no issue with BW to Logos as I have been using both concurrently. But I am happy to be a tester for this to help troubleshoot anything. Just let me know. In Christ, with gratitude, j

Thank you! I'll be in touch next week with details.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 27 2018 7:18 PM

We shipped our BibleWorks notes importer last Monday with 7.17. Feel free to try it out and let us know what you think. More details in the release notes.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 25 2018 10:14 AM

Phil, 

As much as I would like to "try it out"  I'm hesitant because of the known issue in the release notes... 

Known Issue: There are some issues displaying certain fonts when importing notes with text in Greek.

Has this been corrected by now?  I have a rather massive corpus of notes involving Greek. and really don't want to have to fix them all.

Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 25 2018 1:48 PM

TCBlack:

Phil, 

As much as I would like to "try it out"  I'm hesitant because of the known issue in the release notes... 

Known Issue: There are some issues displaying certain fonts when importing notes with text in Greek.

Has this been corrected by now?  I have a rather massive corpus of notes involving Greek. and really don't want to have to fix them all.

I believe we fixed the issues, but I'll have to check to be sure. If you import and notice problems, let us know. It's super easy to deleted the imported notebook and then reimport later. There's really no risk to importing just to try it out.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 25 2018 2:45 PM

We think the issues are resolved. Please let us know if you notice anything that looks amiss.

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J. Gary Ellison | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 22 2021 9:36 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We're testing our notes importing functionality internally and will be ready for some folks to test it externally soon. Reply to this post and let me know if you're interested in testing it. I'll provide further details once we're ready for external testers.

Anyone?

I'm replying to this older thread. I've been an avid user of BibleWorks for 11 years and have an incredible amount of notes tied up in it. I just purchased Logos 9 Diamond this week. I have used the command "Import BibleWorks from [path]", but the results were unexpected.

In BibleWorks, there are chapter notes and verse notes. I used the chapter notes feature for extended commentary and the verse notes mostly for tagging subjects such as #TRINITY. In all, BibleWorks generated over 4,400 files of my notes, each chapter and verse generating a separate file.

Using the command to import, only the verse notes were imported AND they are not tied to verses, so there are simply notes with #TRINITY or some other personal tag or verse note, but not at all useful since they are not linked to verses.

None of the chapter notes were imported. This would be the bulk of my eleven years worth of work. So I would really like to see this work.

I have also generated my own cross-references in BibleWorks, making connections that I see when reading the rereading the Bible. That would also be a welcome import.

I would appreciate any help on this matter. Thank you.

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Daniel J. Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2021 12:46 PM

Just wanted to commiserate. I've used BW forever. Opposite of you, most of my work is in verse by verse. I've said it's like having a Bible with an infinitely wide margin. I have a treasure trove of material in those notes -- material from lexica, journal articles, web articles, personal insights, pictures, diagrams, tables, and on and on and on. So if you had 4400 chapter notes, I'd probably have 440,000 individual verse notes, anchored to nothing! Surprise

I was literally looking into bequeathing it to a young pastor for use after my death, when BW announced it was simply toggling off. They were such good, good brothers; but it felt like betrayal.

So I just continue to work in both. Logos is an amazing, amazing resource. But it doesn't handle those notes like BW, tying them to verses like that. I wish there were a way to convert them and make it work.

My sympathies.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2021 12:58 PM

J. Gary Ellison:
I would appreciate any help on this matter. Thank you.

If there is a way to make a pdf copy of your notes in BibleWorks so you at the very least do not lose your notes, that would be the first thing I would do.

This is also what I want to always have the ability to do in Logos:  to take all my notes and make one pdf copy so the notes are preserved outside the software. 

Hopefully Faithlife will be able to help you transfer all the notes.  But it is a comfort at least if you are able to have a pdf copy of them.

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J. Gary Ellison | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2021 6:25 PM

Thank you, Daniel. I have been trying different ways of moving the text. The BibleWorks Report Generator is a possibility. If you uncheck the report options, remove versions, use Analyze a Greek version for the Old Testament, then do a second report on the New Testament using a Hebrew version to analyze (because it insists and you don't want that information in your report), you can generate two reports that will then need to be cleaned up because many literal lines are generated for each verse.

A second method is to download Accordance Lite. It's free. It does a good job of importing the BibleWorks files, both chapter and verse files in biblical order, except it loses any table formats and images that you may have copied into BibleWorks. Then it does what we would have liked Logos to do: your notes run alongside the biblical text. This can be copied (500 verses max at a time) and pasted into Logos. I do not know what the file size limitations might be. The notes do NOT run alongside the text and I do not know how to anchor them to the text. Logos does however recognize references within the text and will link in that way.

Logos indicated that it could import BibleWorks notes (https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016299072-Import-BibleWorks-Notes-into-Logos), but only verse notes were imported through my several attempts, and they were useless because they are not linked to the text.

I would have thought that Logos users would want to write their own commentaries on large passages, chapters and books, and be able to reread those notes without clicking on little icons in the text. I am surprised that this is not a standard function and that the notes do not track with the text. Maybe Logos 10? 

Having said that, the wealth of information is an enormous help. But I will probably continue using BibleWorks alongside Logos.

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Ed Ball (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 25 2021 2:13 PM

I've just fixed a bug that may have caused some BibleWorks notes to be imported without a chapter or verse anchor. Please try the "import bibleworks from [path]" again and let us know if there are any improvements. Thanks!

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J. Gary Ellison | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 25 2021 9:00 PM

So far I am not seeing any response. I've typed
"Import BibleWorks from /Users/jgaryellison/Desktop/notes/" and
"Import BibleWorks Notes from /Users/jgaryellison/Desktop/notes/

Whether I hit Return or Go does not seem to matter. There is no feedback, and then there are no new Notebooks or "Imported Notes" under Docs, and nothing from Today.

Question: would my Logos get the update on the bug that you just fixed?

I have 982 chapter notes and about 3,500 verse notes.

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