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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 10 2020 3:12 PM

Lee Gordon:
By contrast, companies like Microsoft, who assume they know what's best for their users, and ignore consumer feedback,

By contrast, I worked for a University that provided feedback to Microsoft and was listened to. The institution that would not listen was the State Legislature which would ask for numbers that were mathematically impossible to provide.

Look, I get annoyed when forum posts attempt to run Faithlife ... I prefer to leave that to Bob.

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Lee Gordon | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 10 2020 3:20 PM

MJ. Smith:

Lee Gordon:
By contrast, companies like Microsoft, who assume they know what's best for their users, and ignore consumer feedback,

By contrast, I worked for a University that provided feedback to Microsoft and was listened to. The institution that would not listen was the State Legislature which would ask for numbers that were mathematically impossible to provide.

Yeah, I remember switching to Thunderbird in the 90s, because Microsoft refused to offer any option but Times New Roman, for years on end. Then I dumped Internet Explorer for Chrome. Then, after everyone switched to Chrome, they tried to come out with the Edge browser. Right there on my computer, every time I tried to use another browser, they started popping up messages telling me Edge was better and safer, etc. Finally, it got to the point where they did a pop-up survey, right on my computer, wanting to know why I persisted in using other browsers. I told them it was because they ignored what people wanted for so long that people got used to other browsers. Now they show up after everyone is already set in their ways, wondering why nobody wants to use Edge. Well, now they listened, and came out with their own Chrome browser. I'll probably never use it though. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2020 5:43 PM

Dark Mode # 1 voting continues to increase in the Top 3 Logos 8 UserVoice suggestions:

2,160 Votes (+57) => Night Mode for PC/Mac (+1,118 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,194 Votes (+5) => Import/Export notes to/from Evernote. (+38 since 3 Dec 2019)

  985 Votes (+5) => Focus on tablet and touchscreen features (+122 since 3 Dec 2019)

Note: 2,160 votes represents a minimum of 720 users voting for Dark Mode (since every Logos & Verbum can freely place up to 3 of their 10 votes on one UserVoice suggestion). From watching incremental voting increases, humanly guessing over 777 users are voting for Dark Mode. Considering Logos & Verbum user community size, number of votes could be substantially increased.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 22 2020 9:48 AM

Dark Mode # 1 voting continues to increase in the Top 3 Logos 8 UserVoice suggestions:

2,204 Votes (+44) => Night Mode for PC/Mac (+1,162 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,198 Votes (+4) => Import/Export notes to/from Evernote. (+42 since 3 Dec 2019)

  991 Votes (+6) => Focus on tablet and touchscreen features (+128 since 3 Dec 2019)

Note: 2,204 votes represents a minimum of 735 users voting for Dark Mode (since every Logos & Verbum can freely place up to 3 of their 10 votes on one UserVoice suggestion). From watching incremental voting increases, humanly guessing over 795 users are voting for Dark Mode. Considering Logos & Verbum user community size, number of votes could be substantially increased.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2020 9:56 AM

Dark Mode # 1 voting continues to increase in the Top 3 Logos 8 UserVoice suggestions:

2,244 Votes (+40) => Night Mode for PC/Mac (+1,202 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,198 Votes (+0) => Import/Export notes to/from Evernote. (+42 since 3 Dec 2019)

  994 Votes (+3) => Focus on tablet and touchscreen features (+131 since 3 Dec 2019)

Note: 2,244 votes represents a minimum of 748 users voting for Dark Mode (since every Logos & Verbum can freely place up to 3 of their 10 votes on one UserVoice suggestion). From watching incremental voting increases, humanly guessing over 812 users are voting for Dark Mode. Considering Logos & Verbum user community size, number of votes could be substantially increased.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 14 2020 2:41 PM

Dark Mode # 1 voting continues to increase in the Top 3 Logos 8 UserVoice suggestions:

2,297 Votes (+53) => Night Mode for PC/Mac (+1,255 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,198 Votes (+0) => Import/Export notes to/from Evernote. (+42 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,003 Votes (+9) => Focus on tablet and touchscreen features (+140 since 3 Dec 2019)

Note: 2,297 votes represents a minimum of 766 users voting for Dark Mode (since every Logos & Verbum can freely place up to 3 of their 10 votes on one UserVoice suggestion). From watching incremental voting increases, humanly guessing over 833 users are voting for Dark Mode. Considering Logos & Verbum user community size, number of votes could be substantially increased.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 25 2020 12:00 PM

Dark Mode # 1 voting continues to increase in the Top 3 Logos 8 UserVoice suggestions:

2,352 Votes (+55) => Night Mode for PC/Mac (+1,310 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,198 Votes (+0) => Import/Export notes to/from Evernote. (+42 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,011 Votes (+8) => Focus on tablet and touchscreen features (+148 since 3 Dec 2019)

Note: 2,352 votes represents a minimum of 784 users voting for Dark Mode (since every Logos & Verbum can freely place up to 3 of their 10 votes on one UserVoice suggestion). From watching incremental voting increases, humanly guessing over 853 users are voting for Dark Mode. Considering Logos & Verbum user community size, number of votes could be substantially increased.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 6 2020 9:10 PM

Dark Mode # 1 voting continues to increase in the Top 3 Logos 8 UserVoice suggestions:

2,399 Votes (+47) => Night Mode for PC/Mac (+1,357 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,201 Votes (+3) => Import/Export notes to/from Evernote. (+45 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,014 Votes (+3) => Focus on tablet and touchscreen features (+151 since 3 Dec 2019)

Note: 2,399 votes represents a minimum of 800 users voting for Dark Mode (since every Logos & Verbum can freely place up to 3 of their 10 votes on one UserVoice suggestion). From watching incremental voting increases, humanly guessing over 871 users are voting for Dark Mode. Considering Logos & Verbum user community size, number of votes could be substantially increased.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 18 2020 2:03 PM

Dark Mode # 1 voting continues to increase in the Top 3 Logos 8 UserVoice suggestions:

2,444 Votes (+45) => Night Mode for PC/Mac (+1,402 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,201 Votes (+0) => Import/Export notes to/from Evernote. (+45 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,018 Votes (+4) => Focus on tablet and touchscreen features (+155 since 3 Dec 2019)

Note: 2,444 votes represents a minimum of 815 users voting for Dark Mode (since every Logos & Verbum can freely place up to 3 of their 10 votes on one UserVoice suggestion). From watching incremental voting increases, humanly guessing over 888 users are voting for Dark Mode. Considering Logos & Verbum user community size, number of votes could be substantially increased.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 5:50 AM

It sure would be disappointing if Logos 9 did not have dark mode!

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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 7:49 AM

Mark:

It sure would be disappointing if Logos 9 did not have dark mode!

I agree.

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Kenneth Neighoff | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 9:18 AM

I have tried using dark mode on my iPhone and on my iPad with apps that support it and I find myself struggling to like it. 

Why do you think this is a necessary and needed feature?

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Lee Gordon | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 9:34 AM

Kenneth Neighoff:

I have tried using dark mode on my iPhone and on my iPad with apps that support it and I find myself struggling to like it. 

Why do you think this is a necessary and needed feature?

It's easy on the eyes in low-light levels. Trying to use bright programs in the evening, or in bed, hurts your eyes. In my opinion, it also helps you focus on the content, rather than be distracted by the background.

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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 12:57 PM

Kenneth Neighoff:

I have tried using dark mode on my iPhone and on my iPad with apps that support it and I find myself struggling to like it. 

Why do you think this is a necessary and needed feature?

I use Dark Mode all the time on my phone and in other programs that offer it.  It's significantly easier on the eyes for extended reading.  Especially reading in darker environments.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 3:10 PM

Lee Gordon:
It's easy on the eyes in low-light levels. Trying to use bright programs in the evening, or in bed, hurts your eyes. In my opinion, it also helps you focus on the content, rather than be distracted by the background.

However, please understand that there are also those of us for whom dark mode is a strain on the eyes - day or night. Bright mode does not hurt my eyes at night or in bed or in my great grandfather's rocker. We are not distracted by the background. We do not need additional help to focus on the content. Yes, I would like to see dark mode implemented because of the number of people it benefits. But please remember I personally find it very hard to read even in a single screen shot so that I will not be using it at all.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 3:22 PM

Kenneth Neighoff:

I have tried using dark mode on my iPhone and on my iPad with apps that support it and I find myself struggling to like it. 

Why do you think this is a necessary and needed feature?

Thankful for Dark Mode on an iPhone OLED Display being usable nearly all the time. Thankful for training that helped me become peripheral vision aware, which can read Dark Mode easier. My grandmother with wet macular degeneration (colorful center of eyesight diminished use) would have appreciated Dark Mode (a device that enabled her to read books & newspapers inverted black & white along with magnification for display on TV).

Dark Mode # 1 voting continues to increase in the Top 3 Logos 8 UserVoice suggestions:

2,468 Votes (+24) => Night Mode for PC/Mac (+1,426 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,201 Votes (+0) => Import/Export notes to/from Evernote. (+45 since 3 Dec 2019)

1,027 Votes (+9) => Focus on tablet and touchscreen features (+164 since 3 Dec 2019)

Note: 2,468 votes represents a minimum of 823 users voting for Dark Mode (since every Logos & Verbum can freely place up to 3 of their 10 votes on one UserVoice suggestion). From watching incremental voting increases, humanly guessing over 896 users are voting for Dark Mode. Considering Logos & Verbum user community size, number of votes could be substantially increased.

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Lee Gordon | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 4:25 PM

MJ. Smith:

Lee Gordon:
It's easy on the eyes in low-light levels. Trying to use bright programs in the evening, or in bed, hurts your eyes. In my opinion, it also helps you focus on the content, rather than be distracted by the background.

However, please understand that there are also those of us for whom dark mode is a strain on the eyes - day or night. Bright mode does not hurt my eyes at night or in bed or in my great grandfather's rocker. We are not distracted by the background. We do not need additional help to focus on the content. Yes, I would like to see dark mode implemented because of the number of people it benefits. But please remember I personally find it very hard to read even in a single screen shot so that I will not be using it at all.

Having Dark Mode doesn't force you to use Dark Mode. It just gives you the option to use it if you want. You can still use your regular settings. 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 4:50 PM

Lee Gordon:
Having Dark Mode doesn't force you to use Dark Mode. It just gives you the option to use it if you want. You can still use your regular settings. 

Which is why I said I supported it.

MJ. Smith:

. . .Yes, I would like to see dark mode implemented because of the number of people it benefits. But please remember I personally find it very hard to read even in a single screen shot so that I will not be using it at all.

I'm just asking that the people who love dark mode acknowledge that their view is not the only view just as those of us who dislike it acknowledge that there are those who love it.

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Lee Gordon | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 6:30 PM

MJ. Smith:

Lee Gordon:
Having Dark Mode doesn't force you to use Dark Mode. It just gives you the option to use it if you want. You can still use your regular settings. 

Which is why I said I supported it.

MJ. Smith:

. . .Yes, I would like to see dark mode implemented because of the number of people it benefits. But please remember I personally find it very hard to read even in a single screen shot so that I will not be using it at all.

I'm just asking that the people who love dark mode acknowledge that their view is not the only view just as those of us who dislike it acknowledge that there are those who love it.

I don't understand this. Why is it necessary to acknowledge that dark mode isn't the only view, since getting dark mode wouldn't deprive anyone of using the mode they prefer? I could understand if they were lobbying that we should remove any mode but dark mode.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2020 6:51 PM

Lee Gordon:
Why is it necessary to acknowledge that dark mode isn't the only view,

Because to speak in absolutes about things that are not universal is to exclude those for whom it is not true.

However, I responded to your response to my initial post because it implicitly misrepresented what I had said.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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