John N. Hoffman - The Broken Platform

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Sep 15 2011 2:07 PM

Sometimes you need to just get something off your chest and rant. The good thing about rants is that they are utterly honest about the author's point - at least in what they are trying to defend.  The bad thing is that they are hardly fair to the other side and the affirmations made can be a bit extreme and need to balanced by other concerns.

Before William Julius Mann replied to the "Synodical Platform", Rev. John N. Hoffman wrote this rant.  Mann's "Plea" was more influential, but Pastor Hoffman raises many good points as well.  Probably the biggest weakness of this is the tone, especially in the first chapter.  I know that I was put off my the excessive exclamation points (do you really need three of them in a row?) and I am quite sympathetic to the author.  I was really wondering if this was worth the time and effort to release.

But then I found very useful discussion about what we Lutherans consider "doctrinal" and "confessional" in the discussion of "Ceremonies of the Mass" and "Exorcism".  Especially helpful are the extended quotes from Lutheran Orthodox theologians like Martin Chemnitz and Johann Gerhard.

As a product of the 19th century, he assumes you can follow the Latin and German  He sumarizes as you go along in English so I wouldn't say it is useless if you don't have the languages, but some abilities in these languages would be a plus.

Re: Footnotes, the author admits that he isn't consistent about when he quotes things in notes and when they are in the text.  You have been warned.  In one place he has a footnote to a footnote.  Since I know no way to do this nesting of footnotes, I have put them side to side (# 40 & 41 on pg. 76).  As I release it, I realize that I probably should have included a few Large Catechism links here.  Maybe in a later release.

I have added some links to the Book of Concord.  However, for some reason it appears that some of the links on pg. 44 don't work - at least in my compiled version.  They do work in the docx version from Word 2007 though.  I really wish these would work, because they are to Latin quotes of the Smalcald Articles.  He footnotes the German text, but I wanted links to the English.

I have also added a few links to Schmucker's "The American Lutheran Church".  They work with the rough draft of this work I have so far, but obviously will not work for you until I release it.  I am curious if it will work AFTER I release it for you , or if the PBB id's used will be different when different users compile the same docx.

Because of Language issues, it would be nice if I had links to the Chemnitz Examination of the Council of Trent so you could see it in English.  Unfortunately I do not have these resources in Logos format.

The source for this is from Google Books, specifically: http://books.google.com/books?id=sKosAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=inauthor:%22John+N.+Hoffman%22&hl=en&ei=vVxyTtyJC5SlsAL6__z-CQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
I have corrected some of the OCR from looking at the page images, but strongly suspect that some errors remain.

SDG.

Ken McGuire

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 15 2011 4:51 PM

Peace to you, Ken!           and great Joy in the Lord!

           My!            That's some "heavy stuff" for which I thank you muchly!         *smile*

                                  I look forward to studying this as I have time and opportunity!   .......  also want to share this and discuss this with my Pastor who thrives on North American Confessional Lutheran History.......

Bless you for your labours for us (and for the Lord, of course!)       ....

                   May God grant you His favour for your daily needs!

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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I updated the Book of Concord Links in this one as well.  I thought about removing the links to Schmucker since they don't work for you, but since they work for me, I left them in my copy. Big Smile

The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann

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Another update because of the Logos Edition of Schmucker's The American Lutheran Church.  The footnotes are now indicated as in the printed verison on Google books, with the exception of that footnote to a footnote on page 76.  I have tried to tag things by language in this edition, and in editing found MANY errors in the Latin from the OCR that I had failed to fix.  It should be better now, but the editor is still much better at seeing things in English than in German or Latin.

Above I spoke about how I should include links to the Large Catechism when it is discussed and quoted.  I added one at the head to the whole discussion on the Sabbath day, but did not search out every quote and create a link for it.

Anyway, this PB is now closer to the original...

SDG

Ken McGuire

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 18 2014 4:34 PM

Thanks, Ken!          ..     and        Peace!

                     *smile*                                  Your kindness and generosity is always appreciated!                      Psalm 29:11

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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