Video Resources Working Yet?

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GeoPappas | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Sep 17 2011 5:58 PM

According to the following web page, video resources were slated to be functioning in the 2nd Quarter of this year:

http://www.logos.com/4/missingfeatures

Does anyone know if this has been completed yet?

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 17 2011 6:59 PM

As far as I know, they have not been implemented as yet.

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GeoPappas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 18 2011 5:18 AM

Thanks for the reply.

Does anyone know if there is an announcement or forum thread somewhere that discusses when video resources will be finished?

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 18 2011 6:33 AM

The most likely fix will come in the next version (4.5). Check the release notes to see what has been changed/updated or added.

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 18 2011 6:35 AM

See this thread in the wiki as to what is included in the release notes. http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Release_Notes

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Mikko Paavola | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 18 2011 11:15 AM

I think Logos should update the Missing features page. It's outdated.

 

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GeoPappas | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 5:02 AM

Mikko Paavola:
I think Logos should update the Missing features page. It's outdated.

Yes, that would be greatly appreciated.

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GeoPappas | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2011 10:06 AM

Almost 3 months ago, I started this email thread and found that the Logos Missing Features page was out of date.

Well, that page is still out of date.  I have called Logos a few times and asked if they would please update the page and they stated that they would, but nothing seems to have been done as of yet.

How can we get the Missing Features page updated?

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2011 1:56 PM

GeoPappas:
How can we get the Missing Features page updated?

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GeoPappas | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 9 2011 8:41 AM

MJ. Smith:

GeoPappas:
How can we get the Missing Features page updated?

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Yes, but it also seems that a "squeaky wheel gets the oil" Big Smile

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 9 2011 2:22 PM

GeoPappas:

MJ. Smith:

GeoPappas:
How can we get the Missing Features page updated?

A watched pot never boilsCool

Yes, but it also seems that a "squeaky wheel gets the oil" Big Smile

At this point this is not in 4.5, Logos you have promised this and not revised your promise, it may not be at the top of everyone lists but it is a missing feature, if the date has to be pushed out then what must be, must be, just please let us know its not going to just yet.

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GeoPappas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 14 2011 11:20 AM

Can someone from Logos please respond to this thread.

I have tried to be as patient as possible with this.

When I was originally thinking about upgrading to Logos 4, I had concern that it wasn't fully functional (since there were a lot of features missing).  But Logos personnel promised me that everything would be working at some point soon.  I took their word for it and purchased the product.  Well, that was almost two years ago.

I (and many other customers) are still awaiting features that have been promised from the beginning.

All I am asking is to have the Missing Features page updated and to be assured that there is staff that is working on the issue.

This issue, along with a few others, are starting to get me extremely frustrated with Logos as a company...

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 14 2011 12:28 PM

GeoPappas:
Can someone from Logos please respond to this thread.

You could send an email to bob@logos.com. The only court of appeal above that would be Mrs P or God.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 14 2011 1:07 PM

I don't know what you are expecting in terms of "video resources" But I do know that Logos has been producing videos and posting many of them to a youtube channel (as mentioned in an earlier post). They are also producing DVDs like the http://www.logos.com/product/5876/learn-to-use-biblical-greek-and-hebrew-with-logos-bible-software and http://www.logos.com/product/8831/learn-to-do-word-studies-with-logos-bible-software

Are these not video resources for Logos 4 that are now available before 4th quarter 2011?

I don't mean to be snarky, I just don't understand all the angst.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 14 2011 1:21 PM

David Thomas:
I don't know what you are expecting in terms of "video resources" But I do know that Logos has been producing videos and posting many of them to a youtube channel
This is about a different issue.  There were a few video resource produced as Logos, well, resources.  For example:   “The Greatest Book” Video Series.

AFAIK none of these are working in L4; thus the post.

 

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 15 2011 2:18 PM

David Thomas:

I don't know what you are expecting in terms of "video resources" But I do know that Logos has been producing videos and posting many of them to a youtube channel (as mentioned in an earlier post). They are also producing DVDs like the http://www.logos.com/product/5876/learn-to-use-biblical-greek-and-hebrew-with-logos-bible-software and http://www.logos.com/product/8831/learn-to-do-word-studies-with-logos-bible-software

Are these not video resources for Logos 4 that are now available before 4th quarter 2011?

I don't mean to be snarky, I just don't understand all the angst.

None take David, because not everyone will be aware of these resources...they were once to be the next big thing in Logos  and there is quite a few available but as Thomas explained just not yet in Logos 4 despite the promises.

see Mark Kielar ( http://www.logos.com/Products/search?Author=Kielar%2C%20Mark) on Logos Web site for more examples.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 16 2011 12:48 PM

Thomas Black:
 There were a few video resource produced as Logos, well, resources.  For example:   “The Greatest Book” Video Series.

Wow, videos that are tagged and come up in searches, I didn't know this even existed! (Seems I never really cared about all the details on the Missing Features page)

Do they really intergrate in L3?

 

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 16 2011 5:56 PM

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NewbieMick:
Do they really intergrate in L3?

Mick the result is not perfect.  There is some issues with the indexing.  Hopefully this will be all resolved when this make it into L4 assuming Logos is still intending to keep their promise.

http://screencast.com/t/3aXqd9jim

In this screen cast the first example shows where everything is work correctly.   I can search my collection, get a result and be taken to the point int the video for that section.   Note I double clicked on the video to make it full screen.  I didn't show but I could have clicked on any entry in table of contents and start watching the video from that point.

In the screen cast second example the search works fine, but when you click on the result you are not taken directly to the relevant section of the video.  You have to manually find the entry in the table of the contents.

Note: searching limited to the table of contents text, transcripts of the videos are not included so you can't search for a specific quote in the video and be taken to that specific point in the video, you can only search for a 'bookmark' in the video and be taken to that point.

Hopefully this quick demo makes it a little bit clearer for those unfamiliar with these resources what they are about.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 17 2011 2:52 AM

Andrew McKenzie:
Hopefully this quick demo makes it a little bit clearer for those unfamiliar with these resources what they are about.

Yes, thanks a lot, Andrew!

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 17 2011 5:35 AM

I am frankly surprised that in this age of technology Logos has not been more aggressive on video support within Logos 4.  I would bet they are trying to do something "better" than Logos 3, but wow would this sell resources if they could incorporate it in! Devices from phones to desktops support HD video quality, to integrate it into Biblical Places, People, Things; to have a section in Passage Guide; to even develop their own studio to produce videos that support lexicons, language study, tutorials for using the product (and then the videos could be updated with new versions!), have much more archeology/history/stories of saints, to have a much tighter integration like hopping directly to the exact point in a video......wow the potential just seems endless.

Maybe this is why it's taking so long, Logos has to build an infrastructure to support 5 years of ideas. I sure hope so, and it would be nice to hear something. People would feel a lot better if they knew the vision and direction on video, IMHO.

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