Bring back passage in all versions

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Richard Hendricks | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Nov 9 2009 12:08 PM

I used this function a lot in Logos 3 and miss it in Logos 4.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 9 2009 12:32 PM

In the mean time you can use text comparison, and include as many bibles as you like for it.  It's not the same as ALL versions unless you type them all in.  But the principle is close.

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 9 2009 1:03 PM

Yes, but Passage in All Versions was more convenient, especially after they added the Language filters so you could just select the languge you wanted.  Now I have to set up collections (dynamic yes, but still have to set them up) for any languges I would want to do this.  I bope the old ease of use returns.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 9 2009 4:36 PM

Kenneth McGuire:

Yes, but Passage in All Versions was more convenient, especially after they added the Language filters so you could just select the languge you wanted.  Now I have to set up collections (dynamic yes, but still have to set them up) for any languges I would want to do this.  I bope the old ease of use returns.

Make a collection with a rule of type:bibles. Name it Bibles. go to text comparison and select "Bibles" from the middle section. This should give you what your looking for.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 9 2009 4:39 PM

Actually that's not bad, and maintains the integrity of the report, and is dynamically expandable. 

If you want you can create different collection

Bibles

Bibles lang:en

Bibles lang:el

etc...

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 9 2009 4:46 PM

English Bibles was one of the first collections I made during the Beta.  Greek was pretty early too.  But why should I have to make the collections in order for such basic functionality to work?  Yes, once I set it up, it is fine.  But the Philosophy of Logos 4 is that it work without us having to get behind the scenes to make it work.  It should work out of the box, so to speak (ok, after initial indexing),

Oh, while it didn't work the first time I tried it, it worked in later betas and the release to change the base text by saying to work from "NRSV, English Bibles" instead of just "English Bibles" where it was comparing everything with Darby on my system.  The code processing this is pretty good.  The visual results are nice.  But it just takes more setup to make it work than it sbould, in my opinion.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 9 2009 4:49 PM

Kenneth, most people only want to compare a few translations, and the new compare report is designed to work according to the collections you create.  As I see it, it's working exactly as designed.  That way , you can compare what you want to compare and are not stuck comparing what Bob P. wants to compare.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 9 2009 4:50 PM

Kenneth McGuire:
But the Philosophy of Logos 4 is that it work without us having to get behind the scenes to make it work.  It should work out of the box, so to speak

Sort of. Another big motivator is keeping the interface clean. This means if it can be accomplished one way, they will be reluctant to provide a second because it would require adding to the UI. I would suggest adding the type:bibles to the list in the drop down box, right above the mytag: statements.

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 9 2009 4:59 PM

Yes, as a practical matter it is often wiser to limit the number of translations you compare.  But I got more than a few gee-wiz reactions when I showed the 3.0 all versions to people.  Also, for those who are scared of the Original Languages even with the crutches Logos offers, the best they can do is to surround themselves with as many translations as they can find, in as many languages as they can.

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Chad Tramp | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2009 7:13 PM

Thank you for this tip. It provided the answer I was looking for.

 

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Thomas Black:

Actually that's not bad, and maintains the integrity of the report, and is dynamically expandable. 

If you want you can create different collection

Bibles

Bibles lang:en

Bibles lang:el

etc...

 

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 3:53 AM

I don't really find it useful, but FWIW I'm using the Beta and an option is available to view it in all resources.

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Chuck P. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 10:16 AM

I miss it too...I did set up my 3 Bibles in a Collection named Bibles, but when I cut and paste into my Word Document, it does not spread out nicely as Version 3 did...it stacks them up on the left side...not pretty anymore....please bring this option back....

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:32 PM

CharlesCPace:

I miss it too...I did set up my 3 Bibles in a Collection named Bibles, but when I cut and paste into my Word Document, it does not spread out nicely as Version 3 did...it stacks them up on the left side...not pretty anymore....please bring this option back....

Did you try setting the Text Comparison Pane menu to Horizontal?

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Chuck P. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:39 PM

Yep.....

version 3

The New Revised Standard Version New Century Version New Living Translation
28 And now, little children, abide in him, so that when he is revealed we may have confidence and not be put to shame before him at his coming. 28 Yes, my dear children, live in him so that when Christ comes back, we can be without fear and not be ashamed in his presence. 28 And now, dear children, remain in fellowship with Christ so that when he returns, you will be full of courage and not shrink back from him in shame.

Version 4

KJV    NRSV    NCV    1 Jn 2:28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.    1 Jn 2:28 And now, little children, abide in him, so that when he is revealed we may have confidence and not be put to shame before him at his coming.    1 Jn 2:28 Yes, my dear children, live in him so that when Christ comes back, we can be without fear and not be ashamed in his presence.

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Chuck P. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:42 PM

This is the way it lines up in Word...

Version 4

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KJV

NRSV

NCV

1 Jn 2:28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

1 Jn 2:28 And now, little children, abide in him, so that when he is revealed we may have confidence and not be put to shame before him at his coming.

1 Jn 2:28 Yes, my dear children, live in him so that when Christ comes back, we can be without fear and not be ashamed in his presence.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:45 PM

CharlesCPace:
This is the way it lines up in Word...

I see what your saying now. You want the columns to be wider when you paste it. Sorry I missed that in your previous posts. I thought you were saying everything was in one column.

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Chuck P. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:51 PM

Yep, and in Word for Version 3 it leaves more spacing between each one than what is shown on the above post....it really looks great when handing out a prepared Sunday School lesson...guess I will have to leave version 3 on my computer to continue doing this...

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Chuck P. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 6:52 PM

I figured out how to fix it in Word.....

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How to do Comparison Passage cells using Logos 4

1.       In Logos4, do a “Reading View” of the Text Comparison box.

2.       Highlight the entire wide view and do a Ctrl-C to copy it.

3.       Do a Ctrl-V and paste it into a Word document.

4.       Highlight the bad looking cell, then do a right click, and select autofit to window.

5.       Put the cursor inside the cell and a “Table Tools” box will appear on top.

6.       Click on the “Table Tools” box and click on the first grid on the left….and there you have it looking great…..

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Pat | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 15 2010 11:44 AM

Philip Spitzer:

Make a collection with a rule of type:bibles. Name it Bibles. go to text comparison and select "Bibles" from the middle section. This should give you what your looking for.

This worked for me. That's awesome. I thought I had lost this feature. I set up a "English Bibles" collection and it works great! One question I have remaining is about the "Show Differences" option. The Text Comparison window decides that the first Bible in the window (which is alphabetically ordered, so "1890 Darby Bible" is first) is the baseline for comparison. How do I change the baseline for comparison to, say, RSV or whatever? Is that possible? Thanks!

 

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Gary Butner, Th.D. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 24 2011 3:49 PM

I wish we still had the feature. I'm curious, but wasn't that an add-in that we paid for at one time?

 

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