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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 12:14 AM

Dan:

Rich Tatum / Logos:
And, yes, John Wimber is on my list of authors to investigate acquiring content from. I also want to see what we can do with books from the following, who are among the top authors on my list: Michael Youssef, Kenneth E. Hagin, Joel Osteen, Germaine Copeland, Bill Wiese, Myles Munroe, Joseph Prince, Charles Capps, Cindy Trimm, Jentezen Franklin, John Bevere. None of those authors have product in our library, yet, but I'm hoping that won't remain the case for very long

Vyrso already has a few books by Wimber, Wagner, Franklin, and Bevere.

Was encouraging a member of Myles Munroe Ministry for some time to see if she could get him on board.

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:09 AM

Rosie Perera:

Here are some more authors that you are missing, and the source of where I discovered their denominational affiliation

Very helpful format, Rosie.  I've included all of these in my Word document as you'll see in the latest update.  I'll try and publish it with as many other updates as possible by the end of the weekend.

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:11 AM

abondservant:

In the interest of being thorough (lets leave no resource un-tagged), what about the theological journal libraries? I didn't notice whether Southeastern, and southern's journals were picked up by the collections - which makes me think perhaps other journals are missing out on the fun as well.

ALSO:

Under Fundamentalist, in order to get ALL of A.W. Pink's material you need to add "Pink, A.W." or else you miss "The Sovereignty of God".

under Congregationalist: Sheldon, Charles needs to be added (minus his middle name) in order to pick up the resource "the 13th resolution".

Under Dispensationalist: Perhaps we should add the publisher "Kregel". A quick search of logos made them look as though that is who they publish. Dweight Pentacost for instance. ALSO this would be a good place to stick Dallas Theological Seminary's Journal "Bibliotheca Sacra".

Under Presbyterian: Turnbull, Ralph. Died a presybyterian minister in Seattle (whatever else he may have been in his life). He wrote "Baker's Dictionary of Practical Theology". Also Francis A. Schaeffer who graduated from Westminster theological seminary.

Authors of Uncertain Tradition:
Jimmie L. Hancock "All the Questions in the Bible". (published by Logos).

Might need to create (or did I simply miss?):
"Non-Denominational" category, and add: "Ashland Theological Journal". They are affiliated with tyndale house, which may give them a denomination. But its late, and I'm not sure what that would be off hand.
"Evangelical Free" category - they claim D. A. Carson (by way of TEDS), and Wayne Grudem ( Author:("Grudem, Wayne A",  "Carson, D. A.") )

Sorry, abondservant, I had trouble tracing a couple of these.  Is there a link to "The Sovereignty of God" on the Logos website?  I could only find The Arthur Pink Anthology, which I think is picked up by “Pink, Arthur Walkington”.

Similarly, I couldn’t find Sheldon’s “the 13th resolution” on the Logos website.  Is it a Vyrso resource or a Personal Book?

Regarding Kregel, their website does not mention that they are specifically Dispensational, even if they do publish a number of Dispensational resources, so I would prefer not to include them.  Clearly, the lists are open enough for people to create their own personalised collections listed here, so I hope that isn’t too much of a problem.

I’ve added “Dallas Theological Seminary” as an author to the Dispensational collection.  This should pick up Bibliotheca Sacra.

I’ve added Ralph Turnbull and Francis Schaeffer to Presbyterian.  If you were able to provide links to use as evidence for your suggestions, as Rosie has, then that would be greatly appreciated.  As others have commented, this is an immensely time-consuming venture.

Uncertain Tradition, Evangelical, Non-Denominational, etc. are open questions at the moment.  As I get nearer the end of the work I want to do on the “easier” categories, I’ll turn my attention to these.

Thanks for the comments/suggestions.

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:20 AM

NB.Mick:

Also put "Southern Baptist" under "Baptist" and "Presbyterian" under "Reformed" EDIT: and LCMS under Lutheran.                                                                                                                                                               Ken, anything more on Lutherans, LCMS or otherwise? WELS authors?

Thanks, NB.Mick.  I hadn't played with collections enough, but now I see how easy it is to put collections within collections, does anyone have a good reason why I shouldn't take all of the Southern Baptists out of the Baptists list and then just include them as a complete collection?

For similar reasons, can anyone think of any Presbyterians that are not Reformed?  If not, then I'll remove Presbyterians from Reformed as well, adding them as part of the collection.  This should help to reduce the size of some of the lists.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:28 AM

Andrew Baguley:

does anyone have a good reason why I shouldn't take all of the Southern Baptists out of the Baptists list and then just include them as a complete collection?

For similar reasons, can anyone think of any Presbyterians that are not Reformed?  If not, then I'll remove Presbyterians from Reformed as well, adding them as part of the collection.  This should help to reduce the size of some of the lists.

Personally I like both of these suggestions.

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:30 AM

Andrew Baguley:
but now I see how easy it is to put collections within collections

Can this be done other than dragging another Collections books into a collection? In this way you lose the dynamic nature of the Collection; imagine:

Collection A - author:Smith

Collection B: author:Jones

I bring up Collection A, drag all its books into Collection B, but then if I get a new resource by author Smith it will be in Collection A but not in Collection B, right?

I know I can combine the rules of two Collections with an OR, but that becomes harder to maintain as the same definition is in two places ("where else do I use this collection's definition?")

You can't drag a COllection name in some ow, can you?

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:38 AM

Philana Crouch:

To Seventh-Day Adventist I would add Davidson, Richard M. 

Thanks, Philana.  I've added this and picked up a few more along the way.

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:42 AM

Don Awalt:

You can't drag a COllection name in some ow, can you?

I'm no expert at this, Don, but I think this is exactly what is shown at http://wiki.logos.com/Collections#Adding_a_Collection_of_books_as_an_exception. I tried it before making the suggestion above, and it seems straightforward, though the instructions might benefit from a screenshot.
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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:42 AM

Don Awalt:

Andrew Baguley:
but now I see how easy it is to put collections within collections

Can this be done other than dragging another Collections books into a collection? In this way you lose the dynamic nature of the Collection; imagine:

Collection A - author:Smith

Collection B: author:Jones

I bring up Collection A, drag all its books into Collection B, but then if I get a new resource by author Smith it will be in Collection A but not in Collection B, right?

No. My understanding is that they are totally dynamic. Since Smith now is in Collection A, he is also in B (since you don't drag "all its books", but the collection itself - from the Open dialog dropdown). Even if you rename Collection A, the content of Coll. B will follow suit.

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:50 AM

Thanks, Ken.  Duly added (though it's bending the rules, I've included Donfried, as it seems fairly certain he'll be there eventually).

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:54 AM

Don Awalt:

I noticed people are starting to catalog their libraries based on these tags. I was thinking, is that accurate, especially the "untagged" category that one of us my derive by counting the tagged resources by category, and subtracting from total library size? The reason I wonder is I came across the fact that Arno Gaebelein is in no less than 4 categories - Arminian/Wesleyan, Dispensational, Fundamentalist, and Methodist Episcopal.

I don't think the categories can be exclusive, Don, so there may be an issue with some people double counting.  I'll probably drop the Methodist Episcopal category inside Wesleyan, but there will still be overlap with Dispensational for example.  The way I see it Dispensational is more of a theology tag than a denominational tag.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:56 AM

Andrew Baguley:
it seems straightforward, though the instructions might benefit from a screenshot.

Here's one for including a baptist sub-collection into a larger baptist one:

remember: with the collection open you want to add a subcollection to, you again  click "open" and select the one you intend to include. DON'T CLICK IT but just drag the title into the plus-these-resources-area.

Works like a charm, also for excluding.

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 11:58 AM

5 Solas:

Thanks so much for all the hard work that went into these lists. Thanks for making it public.

Presbyterian and Reformed
An additional name -  Pratt, Richard L

Thanks. Duly added.

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 12:21 PM

Partly to make it easier to check suggestions here, and partly for other reasons, I've been creating a spreadsheet of educational institutions (universities, colleges and seminaries) linked to denominations.  Unlike the lists on this post, which are mainly reliant on information provided by the Logos Marketing team and occasionally checked elsewhere, my list of institutions is drawn almost wholly from the lists in Wikipedia.  I know this is not the most reliable source, so I'm offering this very tentatively, offering it in case it helps others and asking for additions/comments/corrections.  Please try to include reliable web links as evidence though.  Where Wikipedia offered an easy way to acquire place and date information, I've included this, but Wikipedia is still not consistent here, so it seems a bit haphazard.  If you would like to add to this, then it would be great if you could do it in bulk, so that I can avoid lots of small updates.

Anyway, with all those provisos, here is my latest list:

5758.Colleges & Universities.xls

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 12:55 PM

Andrew Baguley:

Partly to make it easier to check suggestions here, and partly for other reasons, I've been creating a spreadsheet of educational institutions (universities, colleges and seminaries) linked to denominations.  Unlike the lists on this post, which are mainly reliant on information provided by the Logos Marketing team and occasionally checked elsewhere, my list of institutions is drawn almost wholly from the lists in Wikipedia.  I know this is not the most reliable source, so I'm offering this very tentatively, offering it in case it helps others and asking for additions/comments/corrections.  Please try to include reliable web links as evidence though.  Where Wikipedia offered an easy way to acquire place and date information, I've included this, but Wikipedia is still not consistent here, so it seems a bit haphazard.  If you would like to add to this, then it would be great if you could do it in bulk, so that I can avoid lots of small updates.

Anyway, with all those provisos, here is my latest list:

5758.Colleges & Universities.xls

Wow, that's very useful.

What about historic affiliations where schools are now more ecumenical? For example Hope College says on its website that "While historically affiliated with the Reformed Church in America, Hope is ecumenically diverse and values open discussion of matters of faith and respect for the opinions of others."

And "Seattle Pacific University was founded by Free Methodist pioneers who valued a non-sectarian approach to education that welcomed all those seeking scholarly excellence rooted in the Christian gospel, and who sought to take the gospel into the world in order to bring about the flourishing of God’s children.

And what about colleges and universities that intentionally cross denominational boundaries? Should they be in the list as such?

Regent College (in Vancouver, BC) is transdenominational. "Regent College is an international and transdenominational community, made up of students from over 40 countries and 30 denominations."

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 12:59 PM

Thanks to your replies and NB.Nick's pictures, I found it does allow you to drag a Collection name into the '+' pane for a dynamic link (I tested it). Thanks!

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 2:56 PM

Andrew Baguley:
Partly to make it easier to check suggestions here, and partly for other reasons, I've been creating a spreadsheet of educational institutions (universities, colleges and seminaries) linked to denominations

Why not use this as a base. http://ats.edu/MemberSchools/Pages/denom.aspx Association of Denominational Index of Member Schools 

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 10:01 PM

abondservant:

Under Fundamentalist, in order to get ALL of A.W. Pink's material you need to add "Pink, A.W." or else you miss "The Sovereignty of God".

This turned out to be picking up a personal book - though I did purchase the Logos version during March Madness

under Congregationalist: Sheldon, Charles needs to be added (minus his middle name) in order to pick up the resource "the 13th resolution".

This one is actually in the library and is a Logos resource. I suspect its an old L2 resource.

Under Presbyterian: Turnbull, Ralph. Died a presybyterian minister in Seattle (whatever else he may have been in his life). He wrote "Baker's Dictionary of Practical Theology". Also Francis A. Schaeffer who graduated from Westminster theological seminary.

About Ralph G. Turnbull - Final paragraph 7th line from the bottom of the page.


Frances Schaefer
"He later left the BPC and joined the Reformed Presbyterian Church, Evangelical Synod,[5] a forerunner of the Presbyterian Church in America, an evangelical denomination."

Authors of Uncertain Tradition:
Jimmie L. Hancock "All the Questions in the Bible". (published by Logos).

Still No Idea

Might need to create (or did I simply miss?):
"Non-Denominational" category, and add: "Ashland Theological Journal". They are affiliated with tyndale house, which may give them a denomination. Still No Idea

"Evangelical Free" category - they claim D. A. Carson (by way of TEDS), and Wayne Grudem ( Author:("Grudem, Wayne A",  "Carson, D. A.") )

 



Updated my post. If I have to justify everything, I'm probably not going to contribute as much. For one its daunting process to search out this information from scratch - within my initial post I provided enough information for someone so inclined to be able to search. For two, I didn't proof check everyone elses work, I trusted that they were not being deceitful, nor overly sloppy. For three, from a pragmatic standpoint, if I have to check everyone elses work also, then I probably wouldn't have implemented this in my own library. With hundreds of authors (and hundreds more who've authored personal books) it would take more time than this busy person has. Glad you were able to use some of my suggestions! Thanks for all the effort, and good luck with the rest of the project - it is something I will refer back to semi-frequently.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 3 2013 10:03 PM

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 4 2013 1:36 AM

abondservant:

under Congregationalist: Sheldon, Charles needs to be added (minus his middle name) in order to pick up the resource "the 13th resolution".

This one is actually in the library and is a Logos resource. I suspect its an old L2 resource.

my copy is a Vyrso book from Jan 2013 and probably was a freebie. You're right that the author field says Charles Sheldod wheras in the book it says 

Charles M. Sheldon (1857–1946) was an American social reformer who was best known for his authorship of the best-selling inspirational novel In His Steps (1897). A longtime pastor in Topeka, Kansas, he was an early advocate of civil rights and social services for African Americans and a firm believer in putting one’s religion into practice in daily life.

Charles Sheldon, The 13th Resolution (Colorado Springs, CO: David C Cook, 2012). logosres:9781434706591;art=r8

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